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VirgilMastercard, do games w Dying Light continues celebrating its 10th anniversary with a big graphical facelift, but don't you dare call it a remaster

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  • moncharleskey,

    Personally I wouldn’t say the 2nd was terrible. The first was a better game, but it was helped significantly by free post release updates, which DL2 has gotten a lot of a well. I was pretty impressed with the depth of the city and I like the slow infection aspect. I really miss having a vehicle, but if I remember correctly, there wasn’t a vehicle in the first one at launch and it was added later. Just my 2 cents.

    nostalgicgamerz,

    What do you mean? The second one comes out in a few months…

    The only sequel I’ve heard that is coming out after The Following is The Beast /s

    GreyCat,

    It wasn’t utter shit, or even bad. It just doesn’t hook you like the first one does.

    Surp, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    I mean I do know a lot of people with no real jobs that game all day and they have some sorta shitty health care that doesn’t really get them proper treatment if that counts

    mintiefresh, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
    @mintiefresh@piefed.ca avatar

    But where's the free healthcare?

    nostalgicgamerz,

    He’s probably (attempting) to reference welfare … essentially trying to justify work requirements for it

    madcaesar, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    Magats shit on women… Still get women votes… Shit in soliders still get soldiers votes… Shit on Mexicans… Still get Mexican votes… Shit on men…still get men votes…

    I don’t know who this says more about… The voting group or Democrats that can’t win despite this shit.

    Coskii, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    Ah yes, young men. That notoriously healthcare obsesses group of individuals that do all they can to drain the system of all its funding. That’s the problem.

    It’s a shame people actually fall for blatant lies like this.

    Zomg, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    I do both 🤫

    state_electrician, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps

    I backed it right there in the beginning. I don’t even have access to my account anymore and I stopped caring. Star Citizen will always live in infamy, as this bizarre project that turned into some cult-like abomination and will just run ad infinitum until either the money runs out or the sun swallows earth.

    hal_5700X, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps

    The scam is eternal. Like taxes.

    Treczoks, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    Someone so disconnected with reality should not represent anyone.

    forrgott, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    Ah, yes, because I don’t need money for rent and food, just healthcare.

    What a moron.

    RubberElectrons, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
    @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

    They’ll just keep turning the screws tighter if you let them.

    Don’t listen to their lies.

    Samdell, do games w 'Spitting in the face of your international audience': The Alters cops to using generative AI for background text and translations, despite not disclosing such on Steam

    Shameful, but this is the state of modern game developers. Scrap every possible avenue of paying your workers a living wage while surrendering to all latest failure tech fads.

    MudMan, (edited )

    Neither of those things happened here.

    The examples people found include a monitor showing random technical text that someone asked a LLM to write (presumably the writer who goofed is getting paid) and some localized subtitles that were left with a machine localization (the rest of the localization was contracted out).

    Even assuming a bunch of other stuff in the game was AI generated and just went undetected, which is likely, if it's all iterations on what people noticed it definitely doesn't fit your description.

    MudMan, do games w 'Spitting in the face of your international audience': The Alters cops to using generative AI for background text and translations, despite not disclosing such on Steam

    Just so we're clear, the first pass of localization of every game you've played in the past decade has been machine-generated.

    Which is not to say the final product was, people would then go over the whole text database and change it as needed, but it's been frequent practice for a while for things like subtitles and translations to start from a machine generated first draft, not just in videogames but in media in general. People are turning around 24h localization for TV in some places, it's pretty nuts.

    Machine generated voices are also very standard as placeholders. I'm... kinda surprised nobody has slipped up on that post-AI panic, although I guess historically nobody noticed when you didn't clean up a machine-translated subtitle, but people got good at ensuring all your VO lines got VOd because you definitely notice those.

    As with a lot of the rest of the AI panic, I'm confused about the boundaries here. I mean, Google Translate has used machine learning for a long time, as have most machine translation engines. The robot voices that were used as placeholders up until a few years ago would probably be fine if one slipped up, but newer games often use very natural-sounding placeholders, so if one of those slips I imagine it'd be a bit of drama.

    I guess I don't know what "AI generated" means anymore.

    I haven't bumped into the offending text in the game (yet), but I'm playing it in English, so I guess I wouldn't have anyway? Neither the article nor the disclosure are very clear.

    That said, the game is pretty good, if anybody cares.

    Poopfeast420,
    @Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Machine generated voices are also very standard as placeholders. I’m… kinda surprised nobody has slipped up on that post-AI panic

    Diablo 4 had this recently, where an obviously Microsoft Sam like robot voice made it through, and a few people lost their minds.

    Nils,

    I thought MS Sam was an accessibility feature, that you can enable and disable text-to-speech. Did they use that for NPCs voice-overs?

    Poopfeast420,
    @Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Ok? It was a temporary voice file that the devs forgot to remove or replace. And people immediately screamed that Blizzard is trying to sneak AI into the game.

    Nils,

    Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining it.

    afaix,

    historically nobody noticed when you didn’t clean up a machine-translated subtitle

    I don’t know about that, it’s super noticeable when that happens, it’s just that it mostly affects languages other than English, so it did not get noticed by Western media unless there is a review bombing campaign after a particularly atrocious localization

    MudMan, (edited )

    As a non-native English speaker, let me tell you, terrible localization was very much a thing that happened well before machine translation, so that by itself (and more subtle typos or one-off errors) was definitely not enough to infer that someone had forgotten to fix a machine-translated line once.

    You can definitely tell when something has been machine-translated and not fixed, but the real challenge is lack of context. This leads to nonsensical localization even today, whether it's human or automated, especially in crowdsourced localizations, which are frequent in open source software. I contribute to some on occassion and maaaan, do I wish well intentioned people in that space would stop contributing to projects they don't use/lines they haven't seen in situ.

    chicken,

    but I’m playing it in English, so I guess I wouldn’t have anyway?

    The text in the screenshot in the reddit post they link is in English

    MudMan,

    I hadn't clicked through to the Reddit thing (for obvious reasons). The example in the article proper is in a Portuguese subtitle, but now that you pointed me at it and I did check the Reddit thread... well, that text is not legible in game unless you really try, so yeah, I hadn't read it. I'm guessing that's the only English instance?

    Daft_ish, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

    People vote for this guy.

    SCmSTR,

    This guy unfortunately and unironically exists and likely has more power than anybody on the fediverse.

    WrenFeathers, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps
    @WrenFeathers@lemmy.world avatar

    I honestly think at this point, anyone still giving this scam money deserves the loss.

    As long as they’re only hurting themselves, I’m all for watching stupid people fail miserably.

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