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THE_GR8_MIKE, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I wonder if it’s because they had 10 million ready to go in June for launch so most people who wanted one got one then. Especially because it’ll never go down in price, why wait until the holidays unless you have kids?

Tollana1234567,

nintendo is likely banking on the parents to buy for the needy kids right on launch.

brsrklf, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I have one, I like it as a slightly better switch, but, yeah. There’s not a lot of reasons to get one for now.

Mario Kart World and Age of Imprisonment are disappointing, most of the other first party games are just upgrades of Switch games, including Prime 4 that’s… Meh.

Bananza was a lot of fun, but it’s not selling a whole console.

Ludicrous0251,

This is exactly the problem, weird policy quirks and better alternatives didn’t help the situation but quite frankly there’s no new content for the Switch 2, and the performance bump over the OG Switch is almost irrelevant because raw performance isn’t the reason people buy Nintendo systems & games.

FenderStratocaster,

I can’t justify spending $600 to get a slightly better Switch.

brsrklf,

Neither do I, but it was about 450 where I live.

I have a big switch library, and my OG switch is not in the best of shapes. Also, I honestly expected better from Mario Kart.

So yeah, as I said, I’m not exactly advising anyone to get one right now. I’m just saying, it’s more comfortable than the switch, it has one good exclusive game, and it runs some switch 1 games significantly better.

FenderStratocaster,

It IS $450 here for the console only. I was factoring in taxes, Nintendo Online, and a game or 2.

Tollana1234567,

its all those excess fees coming along with buying the switch, and the game, +online features.

jordanlund, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The Switch 2 is the first console I’ve just outright skipped in… well… years now. I guess since the Wii U?

Just every piece of news about it as it was coming out made it sound less and less appealing…

$70 games (that never get discounted because Nintendo.)

Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.

Special SD cards that are more expensive.

Microphone support requires a subscription after 1 year.

Charging $10 for a hardware demo that should be included, like Desk Job on the Steam Deck.

And, like you say, the remote detonation option, which is burning legitimate players:

gadgetmatch.com/nintendo-switch-2-lawsuit-bricked…

Generally with new hardware it’s “Hey, what’s not to like?”

With the Switch 2 it’s more “What is there to like?”

Washedupcynic,
@Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca avatar

The Wii made me absolutely rage because those consoles were region locked, preventing me from playing titles I had imported from other countries that weren’t published by Nintendo north America. I never spent money on Nintendo products after that. The rest of my family was still happy with Nintendo, and they have continued to purchase their consoles. I finally got my wife invested in PC gaming 2 years ago, and it warmed my bitter heart to hear she wanted a steam deck instead of the switch 2.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

That was always the case for Nintendo's home consoles, not like it was a new thing that started with the Wii. Switch was the first one to be region-free.

Washedupcynic,
@Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca avatar

This was not the case for Nintendo consoles in the past. I imported plenty of NES, SNES, GC, GB, GBA, and DS carts that were published in Asia/Europe, but not published in the Americas, and had no issues playing them until the Wii. Those consoles I just mentioned were all region free.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t region locking on the NES and SNES largely implemented via the shape of the cartridge? Frank Cifaldi and the VGHF just put out that NES history video, and it had some kind of authentication chip that could only be provided by Nintendo, and it was in the NES but not the Famicom. And on Gamecube, I seem to remember you needed an Action Replay to break the region locking, but I never dabbled in it myself.

Washedupcynic,
@Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca avatar

I wasn’t importing famicom cartidges, I was importing NES cartidges that were not published in america.

missingno, (edited )
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Did you have a modded console? Without modification, the 10NES lockout chip prevents PAL cartridges from running on NTSC or vice versa. But it is possible to disable the chip to get around this.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

NES and SNES were region-locked. In addition to an actual lockout chip, they even had different cartridge shapes so you couldn't physically fit Famicom or Super Famicom games.

Handhelds were not (until DSi and 3DS), but I specifically said home consoles.

k0e3,

NES, SNES, and GC were definitely region locked.

THE_GR8_MIKE,

I love mine. The FPS boost alone in Zelda and Pokémon made it worth it for me. Cheaper than the GPU I want for my computer too. Then again, I went all in on the Switch in 2017 after skipping the Wii U, so more performance is fine with me. I do wish there was more stuff announced, though.

MeekerThanBeaker,

I skipped the Switch because I did get the Wii U. They abandoned that system too quickly due to poor sales so I was a little bitter. I almost went with the OLED, but decided to continue waiting since I had other systems and PC to play on. It’s the first Nintendo console I have ever skipped.

I did pick up the Switch 2, however, so I get to play all the games I missed over the years and any new ones. Glad I don’t have to wait so long on loading screens for Zelda like I did on the Wii U… which was painfully long.

My Switch 2 is pretty much strictly my Nintendo machine. And yeah, just have to wait for them to come out with more 1st party games. I usually buy 3rd party games on other systems because the graphics tend to be superior.

THE_GR8_MIKE,

Oh yeah, watching my girlfriend play her Switch 1 now is agonizing. Her birthday is coming up and I think I know exactly what I’m going to be getting for her.

Games like Zelda now load so fast you can’t even see your stats on the loading screen. And ya know, that’s an okay problem to have.

kinkles,
@kinkles@sh.itjust.works avatar

“Never discounted” is just factually untrue, though. The biggest hitters don’t reach Steam-sale levels, sure, but I’m looking at $70 Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD right now on Woot. I’ve purchased a fair number of Switch 1 games for around $40 in the last year and some (like Mario & Luigi Brothership and Super Mario RPG) went for as low as $25 USD around Black Friday.

RamRabbit,

Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD

That’s the thing. Such being considered a ‘discount’ is why people say Nintendo doesn’t discount games; why the Nintendo consoles end up being quite expensive when compared with a Steam Deck, where games are on discount on the regular.

Not saying don’t enjoy the console. Just with prices like that, it’s hard to justify for many. gestures at OP’s article

jordanlund, (edited )
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I picked up Advance Wars 1+2 Reboot for my kid for Christmas. $60 still after coming out in 2023.

nintendo.com/…/advance-wars-1-plus-2-re-boot-camp…

(* “My kid” - He’s 29, he should be buying his own games! LOL.)

RamRabbit,

A GameBoy Advance reboot? May I recommend EmuDeck? Works on every OS.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but you don’t give pirated goods as gifts. 😉

I still have the OG Advance Wars carts for my GBA.

Tollana1234567,

i was planning to get a the first switch, with pokemon dint because of how bad the quality it was, and due to them admitting all future POKEMON games are going to be this way was the biggest turn off.

IchNichtenLichten,

Too expensive, too enshittified for me to consider. All they had to do was not fuck this up and they would’ve had a guaranteed sale but I don’t ever see myself spending a cent on Nintendo ever again.

mienshao,

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  • noxypaws,

    How is either Switch not enshittified when you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves?

    RamRabbit,

    you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves

    Jesus fuck. I hadn’t realized how bad things had gotten in Nintendo-land.

    How long has Steam been backing up saves for? I can’t even remember.

    jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Even in the days of memory cards you could back up saves to other memory cards…

    Tollana1234567,

    they got the idea from pokemon games, how you need an app just store all the pokemon, plus another app for certain other features for the main pokemon game. before the switch/3ds transition, i believe you had to pay for “storing your excess pokemon” on a app.

    eronth,

    Did they ever support that for free?

    IchNichtenLichten,

    it is not enshittified … call it anti-consumer

    Same difference?

    Dojan,
    @Dojan@pawb.social avatar

    It’s not enshittified because the Switch was already shit.

    Tollana1234567,

    also pokemon being trashed by gamefreak incensed alot of switch/nintendo fans too.

    Krompus,
    @Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep, Switch 1 was much more interesting, and I still skipped it in favour of PC / Steam Deck.

    VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.

    Generally agree with your post, but a large majority of games really are games. If they’re a download key, it’s very clearly labelled on the box.

    scala,

    The point they are probably trying to make is with a key you don’t own the game like you would with a hardware cartridge in older Nintendo systems. So you own nothing on the switch.

    VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    And the point I’m making is that only a handful of games are keys; the vast majority are still on the cart, same as the last system.

    OnfireNFS,

    It’s funny. I feel like with the switch 2 Nintendo finally listened to the fans who were saying they just want an incremental improvement. Just make the switch with a better processor. But they really just got too greedy with it and made it an incremental improvement in the worst way possible. Paid online, $70 games which never go on sale, paid switch 2 upgrade packs, LCD screen, digital download physical games.

    It’s an incremental upgrade done as horribly as possible, it feels like people are struggling right now and Nintendo is trying to extract every dollar out of customers then wonders why the console isn’t doing well.

    For me it’s a hard sell because like at that price why wouldn’t I just buy a steam deck. I don’t have to buy any new games, I don’t have to pay for upgrade packs to have my games run on it, I don’t have to pay for online services. I’m not going to have to rebuy games if I buy a steam frame or steam machine. It also has seamless save transfers, and steam is famous for its sales.

    It’s just funny because I feel like people were asking for a switch with more power but now that it’s here like why would you buy it over a steam deck.

    Also to top it off Nintendo’s lawyers are aggressively going after emulators, streamers and modders. Why would I want to support a company so hostile to its own community

    Tollana1234567,

    i skipped the first new switch, due to pokemon swsh, never regretted it, and many accurately predicted how bad it is with pokemon.

    Overpriced_Food2026, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    I mean there were like… NO sales. What the hell do you expect? We got one for our son and good Lord after Nintendo Online, Tax, Screen Protector, Insurance, one extra game its like an $800 expense!

    dukemirage,

    Insurance?

    Overpriced_Food2026,

    Whether it is a cell phone or a portable computer, I will not refuse screen drop protection for electronics.

    LodeMike,

    $400 a game 💀💀💀

    Tollana1234567,

    if your paying pokemon, expect to pay double for what its worth due to all the DLC, online play, pokemon storage,etc.

    Tollana1234567,

    yea 300-400 for a new switch? plus a game that is 60-70$+ dlc is another 30$, and online play, and storage if your playing pokemon.

    TheGreenWizard, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    Fuck Nintendo

    Jmsnwbrd, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    I had every console. PS5, X-Box, Steam Deck, and Switch OLED. . . Guess which one I got rid of?

    phlegmy,

    All but the steamdeck, because there’s no console exclusives any more and the switch can be emulated?

    pathief, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
    @pathief@lemmy.world avatar

    I bought the Switch 1 on launch and loved it, it was everything I was looking for on a console. However, every single joystick broke. I bought several joy con packs and they all drift heavily. Even the pro controller drifts. Nintendo Iberia refused to even repair them. They gave me the option to either replace them with a 20 euro discount or pay 20 euros for them to ship them back.

    Awful product quality, awful support, zero accountability. Guess what, I’m spending my money elsewhere.

    EveningPancakes, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    The price doesn’t turn me off. But I’m very happy with my Steam Deck OLED. If Nintendo ever releases an OLED version, I’ll consider it for the Nintendo exclusives, but right now there isn’t a compelling reason. I barely pick up my Switch 1 anymore.

    Janx, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    I was a Nintendo kid growing up, so I’m biased. But I can’t even defend them anymore. Their uncompetitive prices and anti-consumer practices are completely out-of-touch. I hope they either start listening to their fans, or go away and allow their games to be sold on other platforms…

    melfie, (edited ) do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    Meh, I’ll wait for the emulator. At this point, I mostly emulate the Switch games I own on my PC because it’s more convenient to have all my games in one place without bothering with cartridges and yet another machine. Switch pro controllers are also overpriced, so I’d rather use my existing XBox controllers, but that requires a dongle for every controller and the Switch dock doesn’t have many USB ports. The 8bitdo dongles also only work half the time and are frustrating to use. Then there are the mods. Emulation is just a better experience, and Nintendo’s lawyers have been real assholes about it. Which is why my 20+ Switch games are the last things I’ll ever buy from Nintendo.

    addybojangles, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    I don’t know if I’ll ever get one, and I play my Switch fairly regularly.

    It is SO MUCH more expensive than anything undecided to play in my PC. And the exclusives aren’t very compelling lately.

    RabbitMix, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    I bought a Switch day 1, I bought a Switch Lite day 1, there are 2 other Switches in our family… there’s no way in hell I’m ever getting a Switch 2 or any other product Nintendo makes.

    toeblast96, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    good

    rainbowbunny, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    When can we own it ourself and mod it?

    Rooty, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

    The first Switch had a unique form factor when it came out, now there are deck pcs that replicate it, even with detachable “joycons”. Unless you want to play a handful of exclusive titles there is really no reason to buy it, especially since the old switch will now drop in price.

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