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sleepmode, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

Hardly any exclusives. Hardware is more and more meh with every release. We broke. Steam and GoG are so convenient I don’t even think about it. Nintendo will die a patent troll death.

CaptPretentious, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I didn’t buy it because fuck Nintendo. They treat their customers with such disrespect and disdain, a company that’s only bring held together by nostalgia alone. They’ve gotten into a cycle of seeing just how much money they can get while putting in no effort.

Tollana1234567,

especially with pokemon games, its unforgivable how expensive they are for such a sloppily made genre, since swsh.

OhStopYellingAtMe, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

The games are prohibitively expensive.

Even if you calculate hours-of-entertainment-per-dollar-spent, it’s crazy expensive.

Tollana1234567,

pokemon is likely thier flagship game, and the quality seems to have gone down with each new game coming out, per masuda, cant really justify a very expensive game like pokemon and a switch 2, besides pokemon has extra fees that comes with it too.

FinishingDutch, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

The main thing holding me back is the fact that it doesn’t have an OLED display. With the price hike between the original and 2, in my opinion it should’ve launched with an OLED as standard. When even cheap phones come with it, Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.

And the game prices also aren’t helping, I imagine. Not when the games themselves are lacklustre as well. The new Mario Kart should’ve been a system seller. But the people I know who own it, have reverted back to playing the previous version. That’s a baaaad look.

I’ll likely buy the Switch 2 when they launch an OLED and release a new Animal Crossing.

BlameTheAntifa,

Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.

They do have an excuse.

A Spongebob meme depicting Mr. Krabs hoarding money with the word “GREED” printed across the top.

Tollana1234567,

they are banking on 10 and under nagging on thier parents to buy the game cosole, they may only play few times a year. this was pretty much the craze of YUGIOH cards early 2000s, and pokemon in that same time period.

Tigeroovy, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I mean, it’s very expensive. If I were employed when it released I’d have probably gotten one, but there’s what like 2 games that are exclusive to it?

It can wait until I can afford one. Probably on sale.

FatVegan,

I’m not the target audience for the switch 2, but i honestly wouldn’t buy it just because how shitty they are. They sold a tutorial game that should clearly be free. Donkey kong is like 80 dollars and just a month or 2 later they released a dlc for half the price. The games don’t even seem to be good. Mario kart is mediocre at best, metroid is embarrassing. And the company itself is pretty embarrassing itself with their lawsuit crusades

Tollana1234567,

pokemon got worst too, and its likely thier flagship game thats probably selling the most.

echodot,

Yeah that’s the problem there’s nothing really compelling for it. Plus they’ve done their classic Nintendo thing of take a great product and then just add a bunch of gimmicks and claim innovation e.g the mouse mode thing nobody cares about. Also them being tight about the controllers and not putting decent hall effect even though they know they have a problem. It just proves that they don’t actually care about their customer base.

Tollana1234567,

i was employed during the 1st switch launch(the one after oled) pokemon turned me off from the console game forever, also masuda made a point that pokemon will not get any better later on, because hes all burned out from the industry.

Katana314, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I doubt it’s a common cause, but my impetus for boycotting Nintendo was Garry’s Mod. They sent their lawyers after animators, who actually get people more interested in their games. Their litigious nonsense caught up with them that time.

the16bitgamer, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
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The biggest issue is the price. I remember a time when even the poorest kid in class had a Nintendo because it was cheap.

The last cheap Nintendo was the 2DS over a decade ago. Most parents are looking for cheap hardware with entertainment and there isn’t anything which comes close to it.

Even the switch lite is the same price as the PS3 bundle back in the day. And it came with 2 real controllers and a game.

Tollana1234567,

i bought my 3ds(latest version) 10years ago, for ultramoon and sun. and never bought a swithc after that.

rafoix, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

The Switch 2 is not expensive.

The people that think this are getting screwed by their jobs but they don’t want to think about their wage stagnating while their boss buys extra boats and houses.

Armok_the_bunny,

I mean, it is kinda expensive, but that would be more tollerable for everyone if wages weren’t stagnating to fund yachts.

rafoix,

It’s not any more expensive than any other electronics.

It’s a brand new tablet with okay battery life, pretty good performance and some low quality Bluetooth controllers included. Nothing else on the market is comparable. It’s basically a portable PS4 for $500 which is nice.

I recently built a PC. I bought RAM for $190. A week later it was $300. Now it’s over $400. Somehow, a Switch 2 is crazy overpriced at $500. People upset at the Switch 2 price are mouth breathers.

Zanshi,

It’s not that expensive. It’s similar in price to PS5 before it got a price increase, and trades raw performance for portability.

The real expensive part is new price point for first party games and prices of SD Express cards.

Tollana1234567,

its actually more expensive if you include all the fees with online play, subscription that is required, even moreso with things like pokemon, also DLCs.

rafoix, (edited )

Isn’t everything more expensive if you include the costs of buying more stuff needed to enjoy it? PC, Console, Car, House, Burger, etcetera.

Online play on the Switch is $20 a year. The fact that they charge for online play and save backups is bullshit but not anywhere as bad as people pretend.

Isn’t Pokémon like a regular game you only need to buy once?

Switch 2 - $500 Pokemon - $70 Pokémon DLC - $30 Online - $20

$620 to play Pokemon

I don’t play Pokémon but games with crazy fandoms (Diablo, CoD, Final Fantasy) always seem to get milked for every penny.

echodot, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

Gee could it possibly be because there’s absolutely nothing compelling about the product? Everything about it is just crap.

It’s overpriced for what it is, pretty much all of its features are gimmicks and do not demonstrably improve on the original, everyone knows their games are overpriced and never reduce in price, and if you breathe on it in the wrong way Nintendo will sue you for 1100 quadrillion dollars. What’s not to love?

UltraGiGaGigantic, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

We’re broke

T00l_shed,

Plus Nintendo anti consumer practices, fuck them for that

architect,

They ain’t that broke.

No one cares about this console.

echodot,

Also even for people who want they can just get a gaming handheld and then gain access to a bunch of games which rarely cost $80 even when they’re brand new. Buying a Switch 2 just isn’t a financially sensible decision for anyone regardless of how much money you have in your bank account

Zanshi,

I’d argue it is financially sensible if you want one. Current price may be the lowest it’s ever been, with increasing prices for RAM and storage. There’s only so much stock they have bought previously.

oopsgodisdeadmybad, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I hope they struggle the company underground.

The unwashed console plebs can join the gamers with the Steam Machine/Deck and see what gaming is supposed to be like.

There’s still shitty stuff happening, but you’re a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

rafoix,

you’re a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

There’s only two CPU companies that often inflate their prices. There’s 3 but really only 2 GPU companies that also often inflate prices.

Let’s not talk about RAM.

Also, don’t forget the multiple price fixing lawsuits that got a lot of attention.

You might not like consoles but the PC world is more overpriced and just as predatory as the console market. It’s just businesses being greedy.

carotte, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

nintendo is having its PS3 moment

a comically overpriced console with few interesting exclusives made by an arrogant company high on the success of its predecessor

SupraMario,

Don’t forget that rents their old games back to you, which is why they’re so against emulation.

Cromer4ever,

When I got my PS3 as a gift, I thought it was beautiful in its time, but no, it’s like the Switch 2 xD

Sludgehammer,
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Well… while the price of the Switch 2 certainly causes sticker shock, when you adjust for inflation it’s only about as expensive as the SNES was at launch… and is in fact cheaper then the NES was at launch. However, in the PS3’s case when adjusted for inflation it was about 1.5 times as expensive as the SNES at launch (for the 20 gb version, the 60 gb was double).

towamo7603,

Now adjust for wage stagnation.

Janx,

This tired old argument completely ignores the fact that consumer purchasing power was much higher back then. Everything costs a higher portion of our paychecks now, especially housing, healthcare, and education.

bbboi,

I would think what you can get today from a competitor for the same price or less is much more would be much more relevant than anything that occurred 40 years ago

(yes, the NES is 40 years old)

UnfortunateShort, (edited )

Isn’t the Switch 2 is cheaper in today’s money than the PS3 was without a decade of inflation?

Edit: PS3 was 600€, adjusted for inflation (by some random online calculator) that’s about 900 today. So yeah, the Switch 2 is about 60% as expensive as the PS3 was.

Lfrith,

How relevant is inflation when cost of living has gotten so inflated that the idea of home ownership went the way of renting. So if anything in today’s money eating costs can hurt the wallet even more with how essentials are eating up more disposable income.

People bring up inflation as though salaries have kept up like NBA salaries have kept up due to their strong union. But, for every day people salaries have stagnated in relation to cost of property, rent, utilities, and food.

UnfortunateShort,

“How relevant is inflation, considering there is so much inflation that…”

echodot,

Inflation is the measure of how much buying power your money is worth. Wage stagnation is wages not keeping up with inflation. They are not the same thing.

Wage stagnation isn’t a result of inflation because inflation happens first. So yeah when working out the equivalent price of a product inflation needs to be taken into account but **so does how much money everybody has. **

If $1 in 2005 is worth $15 today, but I still only get $6 an hour then it isn’t correct to say that a product that cost $15 today is effectively the same as a product costing $1 in 2005 because it’s not taken into the fact that I don’t get more money.

whitecollarcry, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

been too busy emulating old roms of theirs, can’t be bothered with their whack churn of remakes and stale IPs on dated hardware

ieGod, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

Needs more games. Next mainline Zelda or Mario and I’m in. Was never a DK fan and Mario kart isn’t enough.

Tollana1234567,

or tell gamefreak to get thier heads out of thier behinds and make a better pokemon game, and not try justify the slop as a 60$ game.

nialv7, do games w Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

I am so happy to see Nintendo fail.

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