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FoxyFerengi, do games w Funko, BrandShield speak out about itch.io takedown

They requested a takedown before talking to the website owners? That’s such a hostile move

Bakkoda,

DMCA used to be used very very rarely because it carries(carried?) significant penalties for using it like a club. Now it’s just being used like a club and it’s quite obvious there’s no penalty.

rtxn, (edited )

I don’t believe that it was a malicious misuse. Most likely some fuckwit moron at Funko or Brandshield didn’t understand the difference between the hosting platform and the registrar and sent the takedown request to the wrong place out of negligence.

It wasn’t even a DMCA request.

fmstrat,

Doesn’t matter, compensation is in order.

If a company uses tools that act poorly, or does not invest in training staff appropriately, it is a decision they make to optimize their business.

When they fail, they should have to learn what the costs of those mistakes are. A tweet is not enough.

rtxn,

Sure, I don’t disagree, that’s not what I’m saying. All three offending parties could/should be held responsible, depending on how the takedown request was delivered.

AFaithfulNihilist,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

Using AI driven software is willful negligence. Software can’t take responsibility so the human operating it needs to take responsibility for the consequences of it. They took down the entire thing they need to face consequences. The hosting provider should also face consequences for overly broad responses to take down requests.

Jesus_666,

Using AI driven software is willful negligence.

Not necessarily. Neural nets are excellent at fuzzy matching tasks and make for great filters – but nothing more. If you hook one up to a crawler you get a fairly effective way of identifying websites that match certain criteria. You can then have people review those matches to see if infringement happened. It’s basically a glorified search tool.

Of course if you skip the review step you’re doing the equivalent of running a Google search for your brand name and DMCAing all of the search results. That would be negligent.

There is no indication that Funko/BrandShield did that, however. They say that infringing content was found and we have strong indications that a now-deleted Itch project did contain official screenshots of Funko Fusion so the infringement threshold might have been met. Their takedown request was apparently made in good faith.

Now, why the entire domain was taken down, that is the question. It might be a miscommunication or they might’ve mailed the hosting provider directly. I can imagine everything from human error to faulty processes as the root cause here. What I don’t believe is that they made a high-level decision to nuke Itch.

Who needs to face the consequences depends on who screwed up here. For now we’ll have to make do with both Funko and BrandShield taking a PR hit.

mosiacmango,

They didnt issue a DMCA takedown request, which has a legally prescribed back and forth for removing copyrighted, or assumed copyrighted material.

They instead told the registar itch.io was committing phishing/fraud crimes. The registar clearly knee jerked on being told the domain was engaged in illegal acts, but it was Funko and their vendor Brandshield that lied about that in the first place.

Jesus_666,

Yes, I didn’t know about the fraud allegation when I posted. That definitely shouldn’t have happened. Funko should’ve known better than to pull shit like that and it’ll be interesting to see if Itch sues over this.

My point about AI tools remains, though.

uis,

Now, why the entire domain was taken down, that is the question.

They emailed their registrar. Registrar deals only with domains. It’s like telling asassin to deal with person and then act surprised after person was killed.

nutsack,

nobody is this stupid

Bakkoda,

Except you wouldn’t ever dare build any kind of automated system for fear of this exact situation. Remove the fear part and financially you wouldn’t NOT build this system.

mhague,

Exactly, they know how often their AI fails and they understand the damages you incur from fake phishing accusations. They combined the two, and used exploits to make the registrar panic.

Bakkoda,

Yeah i jumped to the conclusion, read the article and kept the additional incorrect info in my premise.

Deceptichum, do games w Funko, BrandShield speak out about itch.io takedown
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Fuck Funko Pops.

Fuck BrandShield.

I accuse them both of causing itch.io to go down and it is their fault.

kaugman, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

Is this scene close to end? I don’t remember seeing it and I never continued after submarine event.

ProdigalFrog,

There’s multiple paths in the game that open up slightly different content. There’s a critical point when you can choose to take Sophia with you, or to go it alone with either thinking (harder puzzles) or fighting.

The balloon is shortly before the submarine on that path (I believe it’s the sophia path)

kaugman,

Cool. I did’t know. Thanks!

erin, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!
@erin@social.sidh.bzh avatar

one of my 1st game with its infamous DRM disk...

Protoknuckles, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

You inspired me to re-download it!

itsathursday, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

squawk Hermocrates, friend of Socrates!

Hmm… I don’t think that will work

ProdigalFrog,

It warms my heart to know that damn parrot is burned into someone eles’s memory too

inclementimmigrant, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

I mean all joking aside, it really is a great classic Lucas arts adventure game. And it’s part of GoG’s game preservation effort.

PunnyName, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

General Kenobi!

doughless, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

“That’s a sandwich worthy of Dagwood Bumstead!”

EvilBit, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

It says, flugeldufel.

It says, auschgefarben.

Allonzee, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

Dr. Jones!

You are a bold one!

rustydrd, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fate of Atlantis? Kid me loved that one, but it’s been ages since I played it.

NielsBohron,
@NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

I only got to play at my friend’s house, and I think I got stuck on Minos (or whatever the Greek island was) and couldn’t get past it before they bought a new computer

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Replayed it the other day. It’s great. One of my favourite adventures.

naticus,

Still love this one. Have watched a couple LPs of it in the past couple years too just to relive that first experience again.

codemichael, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!

I’m selling these fine leather jackets

Deceptichum, do games w Everyone talking about the Indiana Jones game lately, so I gave in and bought it. It's a 10/10 recommendation from me!
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Only India Jones game I want to play is Desktop Adventures.

https://quokk.au/pictrs/image/e9652cdf-d095-4551-9f04-e6bb1b33f1a0.png

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Daaang, blast of the past, totally forgot about this one!

JDTIV, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Honestly we should probably have more places to buy games not just steam. Because remember when gabe newell dies there’s no guarantee that steam will still be “good” they are still a corporation. So if epic needs exclusives to keep going we should support that. Competition between corporations is a good thing.

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

No, epic is already significantly worse than steam and hasn’t gotten better in years. We could use good competition, that is for sure, but Epic with all of its exclusives should not be celebrated.

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