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disguy_ovahea, do gaming w Durge ends all. But sexily

Infamous and Second Son were so much fun to play as good and then evil. It’s so much easier to play as evil, because you can ignore all of the collateral damage you cause completing the mission.

Lumisal, do gaming w Durge ends all. But sexily

Everyone saying Henry but this is definitely Tom

ApathyTree, do gaming w Durge ends all. But sexily
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Does anyone else find it really difficult to play evil in games, like emotionally and morally?

I loved fable and got my angel wings and halo easy-pie; I never managed the horns and huge black wings. I tried, I really did, but I just can’t do it properly… I feel bad for it.

Edit: Or wait is that what this is about, rather than just a specific game…?

Appoxo,
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Nope it’s just a “Do you play as the good cop or as the bad cop?”

Famko,

Most people don’t do evil runs because people feel bad if they hurt the emotions of someone they care about.

Though it helps if the people you are being an asshole to are the bad guys of the story. Gives more of an anti hero vibe to it.

superkret,

Most people don’t do evil runs cause most games do a shit job at portraying evil.
If I help the nice girl who has the keys to the treasure chest, in order to make her like me, that isn’t a “good” act.
I just want her to trust me so it’s easier to get the keys later.

ApathyTree,
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I think this makes sense.

Motivations make you evil, not actions. Actions can make you evil if the motivation is there, or if you lack any motivation other than self-service, but if you are just a fuckup, are you actually bad? Sure if enough of your actions are bad even if the goal is good, it makes you a bad person, but does it make you evil? (I’ve played enough morally ambiguous virtue games to know the answer is no; they always forgive the antagonist if he repents and tries to do better)

Killing people is often, in games, portrayed as a good thing… but not helping people doesn’t make you a morally reprehensible person… helping them the wrong way does. And that’s hard to encode.

“My husband had to go to xyz to deal with the kobold problem, but he hasn’t come back yet”. Your options are help or ignore, and ignoring it isn’t inherently evil, it’s just not compassionate or caring. Helping the kobolds would be the evil act in this scenario and it’s never an actual option in most games.

Famko,

Tbf there was also a poll on how many people played through the Mass Effect games and did a Renegade playthrough and a vast majority didn’t.

Your idea sounds cool though.

Naz,

Just slap town guards that infinitely respawn for max evil. Ez.

AnarchistArtificer,

I also find it hard to do evil play throughs. I tried to do one on Baldur’s Gate 3, but I couldn’t bring myself to because of how it affects your companions. It doesn’t help that I had already seen most of them work through their trauma on a more good aligned play through

PolyLlamaRous, do gaming w At least there's the aesthetic

I mean, to some degree yeah. If I were to get the world’s best samurai sword; I would have fun making whooshing sounds swinging it around, but I could not use it like a samurai master could.

Nuke_the_whales, do gaming w Durge ends all. But sexily

YOUNG MEN

Godric, do gaming w Durge ends all. But sexily
@Godric@lemmy.world avatar

Either playthrough, A MORGNA WES CORE!

bjoern_tantau, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!
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Holy shit, that’s awesome! Finally Epic is doing some good. Let’s hope Sweeney doesn’t swoop in to stop it.

LupertEverett,
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Considering the OldUnreal team still has access to the source code for these two games, and develop patches for them to this day, I find it, thankfully, extremely unlikely!

Dasnap, do gaming w So there I was, in the jungle...
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

“Bro you don’t need to tell us about every tower you climbed.”

simple, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!

Hell yeah, that’s awfully nice of them. I have fond memories of playing Unreal Tournament '99

Gork, do gaming w So there I was, in the jungle...

I think he was also on drugs just about the entire time. Who else likes hang gliding that much?

drspod, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!

This is so much better than a remake or remaster.

id Software led the way, decades ago, making Doom and then Quake engines open source. I wish more studios would donate their old software to the public domain.

Fingers crossed one day we will get Unreal source code. I wonder if it even still exists.

LupertEverett,
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IIRC it has been 10 years since Tim Sweeney talked about open sourcing UE1. I don’t think it is gonna happen anytime soon, sadly.

At least we still have Surreal Engine.

Duamerthrax,

Old Bungie also opened up the Marathon engine and released the assets before the Microsoft takeover. You can play that game on any modern platform while Oni is lingering in abandonedware land, unplayable and unprofitable.

JoMiran, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

For anyone that hasn’t played UT99, try it. There are still plenty of servers with active lobbies. I have played this game on and off since release.

DScratch,

I can only imagine the level of sealclubbing that’s about to begin.

Thassodar,

I just want to pilot a Redeemer one. Last. Time.

(because I killed myself with it too)

SplashJackson,

Facing Worlds iconic baby

mjhelto, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!
@mjhelto@lemm.ee avatar

UNSTOPPABLE!!

dan1101, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!

Don’t let Sweeney hear about this.

Raglesnarf, do games w OldUnreal team publishes installers for downloading Unreal Gold and Unreal Tournament from archive.org, with Epic Games's approval!

I better make sure I have my Unreal games installed because there’s about to be a small influx of old and new players for about a month

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