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chemicalwonka, do games w Steam Is Run By Fewer Than 80 Staff, Lawsuit Docs Reveal
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That’s how you maximize profit, isn’t it?

knitwitt,

Valve is profitable because of the reputation they’ve built up over many years as being an incredibly consumer friendly storefront. Avoiding corporate bloat, and focusing their attention on the core aspects of their business consumers care about has allowed them to thrive where many others failed. Valve created and maintained a fantastic product. So yes.

chemicalwonka, (edited )
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You’re right but missing an important factor

Kecessa, (edited ) do games w Steam Is Run By Fewer Than 80 Staff, Lawsuit Docs Reveal

They’re making their machine more and more efficient, storage and bandwidth just gets cheaper with time… Yet, they still need their 30% cut to make billions in profit.

Wealth redistribution when?

Albbi,

If it’s that easy then make your own competetor and charge less. It’s not like steam has exclusively deals with anyone.

Kecessa, (edited )

That’s not the point at all.

If they make billions in profit and Gaben is a billionaire while 80% of the population of his country lives paycheck to paycheck then there’s a fucking issue. The same logic applies to all businesses.

Bronzie,

Then what is the point?

Why are they not allowed to create a good service and profit?
Why are the competition unable to take marketshare with lower fees?

It feels as if you have this number, >billion, makes a company evil. Why?

I agree with you that no single person needs a billion, but having earned it doesn’t make them bad. They innovate and move everything forwards. I’d much rather see my money with Valve than with EA, Activision Blizzard or any of the other faceless giants out there.

Kecessa,

Multimillionaires, billionaires, they’re all part of the problem.

They’re allowed to make a good product and profit, there’s no reason why we allow them to profit so fucking much, if they do it’s because we’re paying more for their product than they actually need to charge us, the fact that they consider it ok makes them bad people.

Stop defending the people profiting from you, you’re the cattle defending the butcher.

Bronzie,

Sure, then «attack» the politicians allowing this to happen.

Up corporate tax and income tax for the wealthy.

Don’t attack the companies that play by the rules.

Kecessa, (edited )

All of them deserve to be attacked, there’s nothing moral about being a multimillionaire while people are starving.

Bronzie,

Right, but there’s nothing immoral about it either.

I live in a place where the rich pay their fair dues to the benefit of the less fortunate. That’s where I think you need to focus on getting, not slandering every successful company out of envy.

Thanks for the chat. You were nothing but respectful. Have a great weekend.

Kecessa,

Yes there’s something immoral about it, it’s a choice they they consciously make to make us spend more than necessary on the products they have to sell so they can accumulate more wealth and we can accumulate less wealth.

Katana314,

The funniest thing is, there are billionaires out there that agree tax laws are messed up and think they should be paying more taxes. For them it’s just a stressful hassle to work out which charities should take their money.

SpacetimeMachine,

I don’t believe them for a second. When you have that much money you could just hire people to vet charities for you.

Albbi,

I agree with you that there’s a problem, but I think you’re targeting the wrong villian here. I shop local whenever I can but there are a few things that are just… big. Video games are worldwide and getting them off the internet is nice. There’s no such thing as a local video game distributor. There’s local indie game development which I do support, but Steam is a product I like which does its job very well.

The problem here is scale, not necessarily who individuals are buying from. Take major league sports as an example. Salaries for indivudual players are in the millions because of the amount of eyeballs attached to wallets that are interested in watching those players. Less eyeballs, less money, and the players would probably be doing the same thing but not be making as much money. Same thing with music. It’s very hard for an artist to make a good living with music, but once they hit global awareness suddenly money will come rollin in from all over the place. This isn’t a problem with the people doing the jobs (although it could be said that major league sports should charge less, they are trying to maximize their profit) but is the result of the amount of people who are willing to pay.

The probelm you’re having is that a company is allowed to suck up so much money and keep it. That’s a problem for governments to handle. Individuals can choose who to give their money to, but sometimes there aren’t any other good choices.

Kecessa,

It’s their choice to take a cut big enough that they’re making that kind of profit, no one is forcing them, it’s all greed, stop acting like they wouldn’t be able to lower it.

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

A million dollars isn’t what it used to be. There are older working class multi-millionaires who have saved that much from entirely their own labor.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Multimillionaires, billionaires, they’re all part of the problem.

So what laws are you proposing to fix this? Or do you just think whining that they exist will cause them to give away their money?

Kecessa, (edited )

Wealth taxation up to 100%

Limited share for distributors/publishers

Implement that and just watch as everyone but the super wealthy becomes richer all of the sudden.

morriscox,

So he should get the address of every single person in the country and divide his money equally among every single person and have no money for himself? Maybe only keep the same amount for himself that each other person is getting? That’s ~342 million people. Give them $3 each and no more billionaire. Worth $10B? $30 for each person.

Elon Musk is the wealthiest person in the USA and is worth $251B. $750/person would help for rent for one month. You could take money away from babies and maybe get a full month, maybe two.

Jeff Bezos is next at $161B. That’s about $480/person.

Of course, this means that their money is gone. No golden goose. Do you think that they should subsidize every person in the country?

Kecessa,

Or simply say "I guess 30% is more than we need, let’s cut that to 10% and see how that goes.

If billionaires didn’t exist we wouldn’t need to subsidize anyone, the majority of the world’s issues are related to the fact that a minority keeps a majority of wealth to themselves and just try to acquire more and more.

morriscox,

Perhaps 10%. Taxes at one point went up to 90%. Some companies do need more, especially small businesses. As for not needing to subsidize anyone, when the pandemic struck and the checks went out a lot of people paid bills (I managed to get rid of my student loan debt, with help) but many went on spending sprees and some of those still couldn’t pay rent. Wealth distribution isn’t as great as it sounds and I’m on SSDI.

Kecessa,

“when the pandemic struck”… The pandemic that was caused by poor people hunting wild animals to sell their meat to make a living? Gosh darn, I wonder what we could have done to make it so these people wouldn’t have to resort to that to make a living… Oh well 🤷

morriscox,

Nothing. That happened in another country. Also, hunting wild animals to sell the meat has been a thing for millennia.

Kecessa,

Oh and you think wealth inequality is an issue that only affects the USA?

morriscox,

The pandemic that was caused by poor people hunting wild animals to sell their meat to make a living? Gosh darn, I wonder what we could have done to make it so these people wouldn’t have to resort to that to make a living.

What the poor people were doing happened in another country and therefore there was nothing that we could have done to change their way of life. We can’t dictate to China how they treat their citizens.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

You’ve got the proverbial “patience of a saint.” Shame about all’ the bootlickers around here, though. I’d thought/hoped better of Lemmy but still people’s brains turn off when they’ve chosen a team :(

Kecessa,

Incredible how you look at the comment history of all these people and all of them have comments about not having enough money or being angry at rich people, but all critical thinking goes out the window when it’s for a hobby they like, suddenly whatever they’re told to spend is perfectly OK!

Rom, do gaming w In One Year, Embracer Laid Off 4,500 Employees and Shut Down 80 Projects
@Rom@hexbear.net avatar

RIP Deus Ex. What a rotten way to die.

Dagnet, (edited ) do gaming w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"

Tell that to people defending micro transactions in dragons dogma. “But you can earn it in game for free!” except it takes hours to get enough in game currency to customize 1 character (you have 2) unless your second character gets hired, which is unreliable. That same currency is also needed to unlock cosmetics like being able to use the red color in the character creator.

BTW, nioh 2 you unlock customising your character after the first mission and it costs nothing in game, you can do it as many times as you want.

BruceTwarzen, do gaming w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"

But what are his thoughts about over promising a game and releasing it in an absolutely laughable state and then sell a dlc after almost fixing said game years later?

the_q, do gaming w Valve Made $1 Billion From CS Cases Last Year, Data Claims - Insider Gaming

Gaben has the best PR of any billionaire. People think he and his company aren’t just as shitty as any other multi yacht owning billionaire and profit machine company out there.

theonyltruemupf,

Apart from exploiting gambling addicts and you not really owning most games, Valve are rather consumer friendly. Or at least they appear to be because their competitors are even worse.

the_q,

Does that mean you think it’s ok Gabe has multiple yachts?

LwL,

Given human nature I find it hard to blame rich people for using their money on themselves. We need laws to change (aka much, much higher taxes)

Someone’s perspective on what’s an appropriate standard of living changes with what they’re used to. That’s just how the human brain works. I constantly hear people that make the same or more than me, that live in the same country as me in an area with similar cost of living, complain about how little money they have, while I feel like I have all I really need and more. They just consider different things as “necessary”.

Is it incredibly disconnected to consider owning even one yacht as anything close to necessary? Absolutely. But anything you want, your brain will take it for granted once you get it and make you want even more.

the_q,

Human nature? You think greed is just part of human nature? That’s disheartening.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t thinks that is greed actually, Gabe gaining more and more money is greed but spend that wealth in random shit is just like people do, if you have billions the random shit you can buy is more pricy.

Fuck billionaire anyway

the_q,

Is that not greed? He holds on to his money and puts them in places that can’t be taxed. Speaking of taxes, he doesn’t pay his fair share by far. Are these not examples of greed? People are poor. Social systems are failing. These billionaires, even the ones people seem to like such as Gaben and Taylor Swift, are just holding wealth. They’re like dragons lording over piles of gold.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Billionares creating politics and buying politicians so they can continue to be rich is greed totally, but unless yatch is a scheme to avoid taxes that I don’t know they buying it is like me buying toys to put on my desk in a large scale.

the_q,

Alright.

CubbyTustard,

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  • the_q,

    Careful… You’ll get downvoted for knowing that info.

    mriormro,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

    Clearly not.

    theonyltruemupf,

    No he can fuck right of, nobody should ever own that much. I was saying Valve is consumer friendly, relatively speaking.

    redcalcium,

    Well, if you look at their main competitors, it’s kinda true though.

    the_q,

    The best turd is still a turd.

    MissGutsy, do games w New Sony Patent Will Let You Replay A Game From Any Point Possible

    … sooooo … chapters?

    helloharu,
    @helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

    I think this is more granular than that. More like; pages, paragraphs, or even sentences than chapters.

    MissGutsy,

    Sounds cool and all but I heavily doubt they would do the work to implement it like that. Replay value doesn’t add market value in the view of the producers. So there is not much money to be made from the large amount of work this requires.

    Of course if they ever do it, feel free to correct me, people from the future

    helloharu,
    @helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

    The patent shows that the save states stream through an API, it’s likely this isn’t for local save but for people streaming games. It will open streaming possibilities like letting audiences pick up exactly where the person they’re watching is, or other audient interactions like “beat this section quicker than I did.”

    MissGutsy,

    In that case there is little difference to just sharing a save file, which everybody can already do. If this is everything that the patent covers, then I’m against them having a patent for it. That idea is so generic and nothing somebody should be allowed to have control over

    helloharu,
    @helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t disagree as iirc the Stadia had a “Share State” feature that isn’t a far cry from this - though that didn’t rely on trigger points.

    iAvicenna, do games w New Sony Patent Will Let You Replay A Game From Any Point Possible
    @iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

    Sounds like a billion save files taking up space

    GammaGames, do gaming w Far Cry's Multiplayer Game is an Extraction-Based Shooter

    This sounds awesome, extraction shooters are a genre I’m glad is taking off

    DrJenkem,
    @DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

    Same, but I’m still eagerly waiting for someone to do the genre better then Tarkov. But so far, nothing has scratched the itch like Tarkov.

    GammaGames,

    Fair! The place I’ve played it most is a VR mod called Escape from Pavlov, so it was a bit basic feature-wise but still a ton of fun

    bermuda,

    escape from Pavlov

    Rings bell

    Pinklink,

    You might escape from Pavlov, but you can never escape your own responses.

    baconicsynergy,

    I’ve been a long time Marathon fan and I think the new game has the potential for greatness. The art style is out of this world

    DrJenkem,
    @DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

    Marathon was a bit before my time, but I definitely agree, the art style on the trailer for the new marathon looks really cool. But between cod dmz, marauders, the cycle frontier; I’m just a bit skeptical that anyone can properly replicate what makes Tarkov such an interesting and addicting game style.

    That being said, definitely hoping for some proper competition to Tarkov as it has some serious issues that I don’t see getting fixed anytime soon.

    WHYAREWEALLCAPS, do games w SAG-AFTRA Pushes For Another Video Game Strike - Insider Gaming

    The Variety article goes into more details.

    variety.com/…/sag-aftra-vote-authorize-video-game…

    SAG-AFTRA stated

    “After five rounds of bargaining, it has become abundantly clear that the video game companies aren’t willing to meaningfully engage on the critical issues: compensation undercut by inflation, unregulated use of AI and safety,” said Duncan Crabtree-Ireland, SAG-AFTRA national executive director and chief negotiator, in a statement. “I remain hopeful that we will be able to reach an agreement that meets members’ needs, but our members are done being exploited, and if these corporations aren’t willing to offer a fair deal, our next stop will be the picket lines.”

    The signatory companies stated

    “We will continue to negotiate in good faith to reach an agreement that reflects the important contributions of SAG-AFTRA-represented performers in video games. We have reached tentative agreements on over half of the proposals and are optimistic we can find a resolution at the bargaining table.”

    Transcendant, do games w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    I think we’ve all learned our collective lesson at this point (or at least, we should have) not to over-hype games, nor to pre-order them.

    I’m going to have to temporarily move in with my dad in October potentially for a few months, should be some decent reviews in by then so I’m looking forward to killing time with this game!

    Centillionaire,

    Reminder it’s on gamepass!

    Transcendant,

    Thanks. I think I had GP a while back just to play AC: Valhalla, so I won’t get a cheeky deal… I’ll probably buy it on GOG, as it seems like it’s not going to be the sort of game I complete within a month or two, I prefer to ‘own’ a game than rent it once I’m satisfied it’s for me.

    BadlyDrawnRhino,
    @BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

    It will be a few years before it’s on GOG, so it really depends how patient you are. Fallout 4 only appeared on there a week or two ago to give you a frame of reference.

    Transcendant,

    Oh dang. thanks for the headsup. Will it not be on steam day1?

    BadlyDrawnRhino,
    @BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone avatar

    It’ll be on Steam day one, yeah.

    people_are_cute,
    @people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    The people who have “learned” “the lesson” are a loud minority. The vast majority of consumers will put money wherever they feel like it, philosophy be damned.

    LongbottomLeaf, do games w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    Oh no, what’d they break this time?

    Paranomaly, do games w Dreadwolf's Delays Are Impacting The Next Mass Effect - Insider Gaming
    @Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The studio that made Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 struggling like this while 3 sparks a fire in the western RPG genre is just sad to see.

    MustrumR, do games w Dreadwolf's Delays Are Impacting The Next Mass Effect - Insider Gaming

    They probably forgot to slap a season pass and lootboxes on it. Bet half of the team is hard at work putting in annoying mechanics that can be skipped by money and carving out content for DLCs.

    xkforce, do games w Dreadwolf's Delays Are Impacting The Next Mass Effect - Insider Gaming

    Anthem all over again

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