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Red_October, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

Good job, guys, I’m sure that’ll fix it.

Fuck. I mean I even liked Starfield but this level of mishandling the public perception is absolutely unreal.

iheartneopets,

Honestly, this behavior of responding to player feedback and arguing about how “it’s just because you didn’t play the game right!” is kinda unhinged.

It also, to me, really takes Bethesda’s mask off and reveals what their culture must be as a company. Based on these responses, they seem so convinced that they shit gold that they’ve stopped entertaining feedback or trying to innovate much in their games much at all. Kinda confirms some of the criticism I’ve seen of them since Fallout 4 and 76 came out.

Red_October,

It seems to me like someone in the PR department decided they needed to “try something new,” and then didn’t actually run the idea by anyone who could say this is a stupid plan. Someone on the community management team got a promotion and thought it was time to make a bold move, and they were absolutely wrong.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Part of me believes this was triggered by them only getting one nomination in The Game Awards.

TheDarkKnight,

They botched it on a lot of fronts. Them not getting a nom makes sense to me.

NOT_RICK, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t find any of the responses to be insightful, more a marketing reply to convince people who are off put by the negativity. This is coming from someone who’s played the game nearly 80 hours. Still disappointed by it, but I have a hoarding sim problem

tacosanonymous,

Bethesda games make hoarding painful though.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I prefer the use oxygen to run mechanic over the now you can only walk mechanic. But yeah, it could be better. Let me hold all the guns Bethesda, encumbrance isn’t fun. I should just use the console and add that mod that reenables achievements

SkyezOpen,

Are you kidding? Slowly unloading your ship 200 pounds at a time and waiting for it to hopefully actually transfer to the pods is so fun. Not to mention they have absolutely no storage so you need a wall of them that you must then manually search to find anything. The best is when your cargo ship doesn’t fit on the landing pad so you have to carry it all yourself. Or you could build a convoluted network of shipping docks and either manually fuel them or create another convoluted network of shipping docks just to ship helium 3 to all the other shipping docks. Fuck I love loading screens.

Rage aside, the game itself was pretty fun for a run or two, but after that the shallowness really showed. Outposts suck ass though. I made shitty ones and figured I’d hit ng+ before actually caring about them, but I couldn’t make myself care. Benches go outside, I don’t give a shit.

God I’m just remembering how bad it is now. If the terrain isn’t perfectly level go fuck yourself, you can’t expand your hab. I build a fucking boardwalk with multiple levels and shopfronts in FO4, I had nearly full map coverage for artillery, I could attract settlers to live there and defend it. Now I just drop an extractor and power and fuck off.

variants,

yeah not having the ability to have shops and all that stuff like fallout 4 sucks, hopefully they will keep adding things like they did to fo4 to get the game to a better state

ominouslemon,

I mean, to be fair in every Bethesda game you had to do some…let’s call it “inventory management”.

At least in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim

ominouslemon,

I mean, to be fair in every Bethesda game you had to do some…let’s call it “inventory management”.

At least in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim

SkyezOpen,

I had a barrel outside caius’ house that I dumped all my extra stuff into. One barrel held everything. My current storage outpost has… At least 10 resource storage crates? And that’s still not enough. Plus actually hauling all that shit from mining outposts.

SkyezOpen,

Replying to myself because I just can’t get over how shitty storage is. I can carry my armor, pack, like 8 guns, and way too many consumables, then stack another 130 or so on top of that. The giant ass storage crates as tall as me? 100, take it or leave it.

TheDarkKnight,

Real talk inventory and weight limits are 99% time completely useless mechanics that detract from gameplay.

therealjcdenton, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

The failure is absolutely deserved

habanhero, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

Looks like Bethesda discovered ChatGPT.

Some of those replies are as bland, hunky-dory and sanitized as can be, with a dash of “you’re playing it wrong”.

SuddenDownpour,

Corporate speak incentivizes bland language. Standing up for as little as possible brings as few enemies as possible, after all. Unfortunately, an empty, bland proposal can only result in empty, bland art.

thorbot, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

Starfield was super fun until it wasn’t. I have no desire to ever go back to it. Skyrim on the other hand…

vagrantprodigy,

For me it was super boring until I left Constellation, fun for 10 or so hours after that, super boring for a few more, and now I haven’t played it in over 2 months.

thorbot,

I actually just peaced out of constellation right away because I felt like the reason I was there was bullshit. I had 30 hours of fun doing side quests, came back to constellation because I heard there were powers I was missing. Acquiring them was tedious and they weren’t even that useful. I grinded out the main story and quit once I got the credit roll. Zero desire to go through it again

aidan,

Skyrim on the other hand…

Do you think to an extent it’s just familiarity? It is relaxing for you to go back to something you’re so familiar with, you aren’t surprised by it.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

You got downvoted, but yes, and mods. Starfield will be looked at a lot more favorably when everyone is playing a modded version of the game.

ZMonster, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone seems to be missing the point so I’ll let Todd Howard remind you all, “We’re going to be doing a lot of add-on content for Starfield.”

$5 horse armor folks. That’s Bethesda. Stop paying them to make garbage, or at least stop complaining about it.

kandoh, do games w Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4

They should make it an FPS just to fuck with people

warmaster,

I wouldn’t mind as long as I can kick, Dark Messiah style.

JoeKrogan, do games w Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I still have to start the witcher 3. I’ve like 5 or 6 games on the go at the moment so it will be a while yet. I also plan to get cyberpunk goty or whatever edition for like 5 ducats in a future steam sale.

UndulyUnruly,
@UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world avatar

You, pal, are in for a treat. Block your calendar.

I wish I could erase the memory of having played the game multiple times.

I think it’s time for a New Game+.

JoeKrogan,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks 🙏. Yeah I’m looking forward to it. I just need to get through the current lot and dedicate a nice block of time to sink my teeth into it.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Mod the shit out of it too :-P

Katana314, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

There may in fact be a few games where empty spaces and a sense of vastness actually contribute to the atmosphere and make for an enjoyable game. But NOT in a game that’s divided by fucking loading screens with not a single “vista” to look out at.

Barricky,

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    No Man’s Sky. Too large for human comprehension. And sometimes it’s way too empty. Just like real space. Especially in VR.

    ampersandrew, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty Passes 4.3 Million Sales - IGN
    @ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

    Back of the napkin math says they more than broke even on their $80M investment into the game post-launch. I enjoyed the game at launch (which I know wasn't necessarily the norm), and I largely enjoyed the expansion. Unfortunately, this is what I have to scratch my FPS campaign itch these days, but it's still a pretty good one of those combined with a pretty good RPG. It would especially be nice to see them up the ante on the RPG aspects, because next to Baldur's Gate 3 this year, you don't get anywhere near the same sense of freedom and creativity.

    wolfshadowheart,
    @wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

    I also enjoyed the game on release, I had very few bugs and the ones I did encounter I was able to work around in various ways. The most memorable one was a bug where killing the enemies would prevent the next objective from being scannable, preventing it from continuing and completion. Everything else was pretty minimal and I was able to 100% the game. Post game I spent modding which I also got a lot of enjoyment out of a little over 200 hours total in the game.

    Haven't been able to get to Phantom Liberty yet, and I haven't started a new playthrough for the update be has I'm attached to my save (which is silly lol). I'll get to it.

    I feel you on the lack of compelling FPS games these days though. Like Dishonored, but with guns!

    rustyfish, do games w Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4
    @rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

    Good. I hope Witcher 4 will rock! Still not preordering anything. Especially not from CDPR after Cyberpunk.

    Senseless,

    Good. I pre-ordered the collector’s edition of Witcher 3 and it was worth every penny. After the Cyberpunk launch debacle they need to earn back that trust.

    Klystron,

    Never pre ordering anything for any reason ever has been a pretty good piece of advice to live by, I’ve found.

    aksdb, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

    If a significant amount of people “misunderstood” you, it’s not their fault, but yours for not clearly communicating or not tailoring your communication for the target audience.

    Same here: if people play the game “wrong”, you didn’t design it properly and/or marketed it completely wrong.

    Sure, there will always be “dumb” (or too clever) individuals who you simply can’t properly address and satisfy, but if the group is large enough to be loud, you failed your job.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    If a significant amount of people “misunderstood” you, it’s not their fault, but yours for not clearly communicating or not tailoring your communication for the target audience.

    I find this ironic, because even the tutorials in the game only communicate half of the information you need. A lot of them just outright expect you to have played one of their games before. I could imagine if this was someone’s first Bethesda RPG, they’d be confused as hell. Plus there are a few things unique to Starfield that are confusing even if you’ve played every one of their games before.

    peopleproblems, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

    … I liked it

    variants,

    its fun, I liked the main story although it does have its slow spots, the vanguard terrormorph quest was pretty cool, but after a while like all games it gets kind of tiring, this game still feels like it needs some work, hopefully it will get even more post release content than fallout 4, there is a lot of space they can add stuff

    acosmichippo, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    oh good, this reminds me I haven’t bothered to leave a negative review yet. let me correct that.

    e-ratic, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam
    @e-ratic@kbin.social avatar

    Some of Starfield’s planets are meant to be empty by design — but that's not boring. “When the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there. They certainly weren't bored." The intention of Starfield's exploration is to evoke a feeling of smallness in players and make you feel overwhelmed.

    May as well boot up SpaceEngine then.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Starfield, the epitome of scientifically correcty simulations. Why would I expcet my Starship Travel Simulator 2000 to be a fun-focused game after all, durr.

    Zron,

    scientifically correct

    Why doesn’t nasa just open up the starmap and simply fast travel to the moon or mars?

    variants,

    they do basically except they give spacex a chunk of money to have their rocket tp them

    HeavyRaptor,

    It really evoked a feeling of smallness in me. Namely how small and devoid of content the universe feels.

    This is made worse because every inhabited planet I go to has some elaborate situation just waiting for me to solve it. For example: I land on the landing pad, walk 30 meters through a gate and am greeted by a hostage situation in a bank where the hostage negotiator is going to let me, some random, go do his job instead of him, trusting me with the lives of everyone involved without even blinking.

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