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JimSamtanko, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

Bethesda has chosen to make their shit exclusive to a console that is outsold by its completion 2:1.

They’re not exactly the bastions of good ideas.

ExMimic,

Microsoft owns Bethesda, so they probably didn’t have a choice

JimSamtanko,

They knew beforehand- and did it anyway:

en.as.com/…/xbox-knew-from-the-start-that-every-b…

ExMimic,

The article clearly states Microsoft chose to keep it off Playstation, not Bethesda.

JimSamtanko,

And it’s well know that Microsoft knew they were going to do that before Bethesda sold off to Microsoft. So again, they’re not making good decisions.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If you’re getting a big heap of money from Microsoft, who cares what decisions you make? (Playing devil’s advocate)

Halosheep,

What do you mean by this? I’ve played starfield on pc, is it exclusive to pc?

JimSamtanko,

Can you play it on a PS5? The console that I mentioned that is outselling the Xbox 2 to 1? And both FO and Elder Scrolls will be exclusive. Again, they’re not making good decisions over there.

I didn’t mention PC. What I’m talking about isn’t about PC. It’s about consoles and their decision to side with Microsoft and lose money.

Stovetop,

Well, it’s not siding with Microsoft, it is Microsoft. This is a Microsoft game.

JimSamtanko,

Was it a hostile takeover?

PoorlySketchedIdiot,

No, Microsoft simply bought them.

JimSamtanko,

So like I said… they knew what was going to happen. And allowed it. So… big brain ideas happening over there.

MeanEYE, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Is repetitive buying of Bethesda games a new kind of litmus test for stupidity? I mean they do this shit constantly and people are still surprised when it happens. Did people really forget horse armor they tried to sell? Or forget about items that were free in Fallout 4, but had to be purchased in 76? It’s Bethesda and only one thing Todd dreams about is scamming another dollar from their fans.

boonhet,

Used to be that they’d sell you both worthless DLC and actually good DLC.

Knights of the Nine?* Awesome. Horse Armor? Worthless.

Similarly, Skyrim had Dawnguard and Dragonborn which were great. It also had Hearthfire which was kinda meh, but at least it had stuff to do and was cheap, so I’m not too mad about it.

*There was also Shivering Isles, but at the time that was marketed as an expansion pack, not merely a DLC.

Passerby6497, (edited )

Pretty sure shivering isles was Morrowind and horse armor/ nights I’m the nine was oblivion. Those would have come out years apart.

I don’t know what I’m talking about this early

Rekorse,

Thats not accurate at all. Shivering isles is oblivion and one of the best parts of the game.

theonyltruemupf,

I just buy Bethesda games years after release and have a blast playing them.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

If you find that worth it, then sure. Although that won’t be the case soon it seems as Todd has a hardon for live services.

vga, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

How are there players?

echodot,

Sunk cost, they pre-ordered it, and they are darn well going to play it, even if they don’t enjoy doing so.

Don’t pull the video games especially when they’re digitally distributed. It’s not like they can run out.

Muscar,

Or they actually enjoy it. Just because you and others don’t doesn’t mean everyone doesn’t. I didn’t pay anything for it and thoroughly enjoyed it, and will do so more when the DLC comes out. As with anything there are valid points of criticism but so much of the hate for it is fully because of people’s idiocy and not anything else, I’ve never before seen so much deeply stupid criticism for something.

echodot,

I have no problem with people liking it. But I know for a fact that a lot of people really are just obsessed with it because they got bamboozled into pre-ordering, because Bethesda, and they don’t want to admit they made a mistake.

EnderMB,

Tribalism is surprisingly rampant in gaming, especially when a developer picks a side/is acquired by the creator of “their” console.

Duamerthrax,

People want to believe their lie.

TachyonTele,

It’s free on gamepass

Agrivar,

I’m sure a rational response is just going to get downvoted to oblivion, but it’s actually a fun game. Not my favorite from Bethesda, but I definitely enjoyed the 1k hours I put into it last year, and I look forward to dipping back in once the DLC drops and there are more mods (not paid creations) available.

vga,

Well no downvotes from me, that’s a valid opinion.

Krakaval,

You’re the actual proof that unpopular opinion does not result in downvotes to oblivion.

From now on : « remember that guy who said he LIKED Starfield… »

lemmyvore,

What do you do for 1k hours in Starfield?

bc93,

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  • Agrivar,

    You nailed it. The ship-building, especially with the early mods that allowed more part rotation and clipping, REALLY sucked me in. I am excited to check out the enhancements BGS added to that system when I next play.

    bc93,

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  • Agrivar,

    There was a mod that allowed you to (mostly) control door placement, but I’m not sure if it’s even still needed.

    Cowbee,
    @Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

    Base building, charting planets, roleplaying, bounty hunting, going to NG+, making different decisions in questlines, and more.

    The game is actually pretty good.

    dan1101,

    Starfield has a lot of good aspects, but also some bone-headed gameplay and content decisions. I had a lot of fun with it for a few weeks and will come back to it if/when it gets to a better state.

    Semjaza, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    Has Bethesda actually released a decent game since Daggerfall?

    hydroxycotton,

    Ok boomer let’s get you to bed

    Semjaza,

    And in my day we couldn’t just send boomers to bed with a hand wave, we had to sit through the Clintons’ saxophone show first and then we…

    ichbinjasokreativ,

    TES III - V were all amazing. Can’t wait for TES VI to come out in 2035.

    Semjaza,

    You’re wrong, but I’m glad you have had fun and I hope that TESVI isn’t a micro transaction fuelled pile of tripe.

    ichbinjasokreativ,

    Their games are certainly getting dumber/simpler, I’ll give you that. Hope one of their future games will eventually live up to your standards again.

    Klear,

    You mean the game that shipped with a bug breaking the main questline?

    Duamerthrax, (edited )

    Terminator: Future Shock was also a janky mess. They’ve always released broken games and have some how survived this long.

    Semjaza,

    Yup, that’s the one.

    Audacious,

    I tried a bunch of Bethesda games in the past and didn’t like any of them. I known I’m in the minority when I say that.

    someacnt_, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    So some people are actually playing starfield?

    MonkderDritte, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    Ah, so that’s why it was lacking content.

    Belgdore, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    It should be standard practice for Bethesda games to wait for a game of the year edition (or whatever they want to call it) then wait for a steam sale on that.

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Bold of you to assume it will come included.

    callouscomic, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    I will always see Chloe Grace Moretz on the cover of Starfield.

    PenisWenisGenius, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    Starfield could have been a way better game if all they did was fuck it up like 45% less. They could have alternatively just delivered on their promises of making the game easy to mod and let the community handle the rest but they fucked that up too. Only the most dedicated of Starfield fan would have the patience to sit down and do all the shit it takes to add a new quest for example. Iirc even Skyrim came with a mod editor with ui that was easy to understand. Right now all we have is a community xedit project that’s somehow even harder to run on Linux than Starfield is.

    echodot,

    Starfield’s big problem is it’s a huge universe built on an engine that really can’t support massive worlds like that. The reason you can’t fly around on the surface of a planet is because their crappy engine can’t cope with that much space existing, and it can’t load more environment when you get to the edges like every other game does because their engine doesn’t support proper level streaming.

    If you mod the game to force the issue it gets glitchy very very quickly.

    lemmyvore,

    Skyrim came with a built-in mod editor?

    Are you perhaps thinking of the manager they added on Xbox?

    cygon,

    They always release their “Creation Kit” which is apparently also what the Bethesda employees use to build the quests and NPCs in their games:

    .

    The Starfield Creation Kit was only released a week ago (but I think to remember that there was a big delay in its release for Skyrim and Fallout, too - haven’t done any modding since the Skyrim days).

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Starfield could have been a way better game if all they did was fuck it up like 45% less.

    Compared to the KOTOR series, it was lifeless. Compared to Mass Effect, it was very boring. Frustrating for a game with such strong precedents to land so weakly. But they put so much energy into quantity of content that they forgot to invest in quality.

    They could have alternatively just delivered on their promises of making the game easy to mod and let the community handle the rest but they fucked that up too.

    The goal was to create a game that procedurally generated itself, not one where individual hobbyists expanded it manually.

    BruceTwarzen,

    That sounds like a lot of work. And what for? The game sold well, the next one will as well. Why people buy it? I have no idea.

    PenisWenisGenius,

    There was this editor that let you make esm files. I can’t remember if it was already in the game folder or you had to download from steam but it must not have been hard to set up. I remember using it to make one of the buyable houses really big on the inside.

    ssj2marx, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    Bethesda announced that players could download a new series of missions for a group known as the Track Alliance. The problem is that The Vulture is the second mission in the Tracker Alliance, and it costs $7 to buy. But it’ll actually cost players $10 because they must purchase 1,000 Starfield creation credits to afford it.

    So they put the first mission out for free, but it turns out the first mission was a fucking advertisement. I remember being super pissed when Dragon Age pulled this shit.

    And of course they pull the classic cost-obfuscation trick because it would just be far too convenient to just be able to buy a DLC for actual money and then download it.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    I’m glad I’m not the only one to remember that Dragon Age: Origins quest.

    Its the specific and singular reason why I never bought any of the DLC, or any of the sequels.

    rozodru, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset
    @rozodru@lemmy.ca avatar

    I swear gamers have the memory of a gnat. How many times has Bethesda pulled shit like this and people continue to support them? no one remembers the Horse armor all the way back in Oblivion? no one remembers the Skyrim paid mods in 2015? hell can’t even remember the SKYRIM PAID MODS IN DEC OF 2023!

    This isn’t an outrage and no one should be upset AT Bethesda over this, but disappointed and upset with yourselves for yet again falling for their constant desire to nickel and dime their playerbase.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    You have to understand.

    The overwhelming bulk of gamers just don’t care

    Nothing will stand in the way of getting their current precious. Not even their own complaints and bitching.

    They’ll sit there and complain about how a company is evil, its practices exploitative, and how everyone should avoid buying from them so they can die in the fires of Bankruptcy.

    Then the second the next game/expansion/DLC/Whatever is announced, they are immediately in line to preorder the ultra deluxe mega fuck you 500 dollar package. because it comes with a unique mount and a special armor skin, and they just cant miss those things! they’re rare! and they’ll never be able to get them otherwise! /s

    And then they’ll go into the obfuscated-cash-shop and spend another 700 dollars on digital bullshit.

    Then, when they are all done, the overwhelming majority of them will come back to the internet, and cry and whinge and moan about how a company is evil, its practices exploitative, and how everyone should avoid buying from them so they can finally die in the fires of bankruptcy.

    Cause the majority of gamers are brain damaged fucktards who, at the end of the day, just love throwing their wallet at things.

    jjjalljs,

    I mean this is kind of true of all people everywhere. The marshmallow test has flaws but I think it’s still revealing. A lot of people are really bad at self control and delayed gratification.

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    I swear gamers have the memory of a gnat

    It’s more a “sucker born every minute” thing.

    atrielienz,

    Don’t know. Don’t play a whole lot of Bethesda games. Didn’t play Oblivion. New gamers join the ranks every day. Not everyone has been gaming since the 80’s.

    FeelzGoodMan420,

    Well most modern gamers are probably like 14 years old and probably never even played Skyrim. So I’m not surprised young kids are buying this creation kit garbage with Mommy’s credit card.

    LunarLoony,
    @LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    This is what happens everywhere: they’ll just keep chancing it until such a time as it’s acceptable.

    zerog_bandit, do games w Bethesda Is Charging $7 For A New Starfield Mission, And Players Are Upset

    Company that scammed players scams players, more at 7.

    Bougie_Birdie, do gaming w Indie Game Publisher Humble Games Reportedly Lays Off All Staff
    @Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    In a statement shared with GameSpot, Humble Games confirmed that Humble Bundle will have "no impact on its operations. Additionally, ongoing and upcoming games from Humble Games will still move ahead and be published by the company.

    “Yeah, we just laid everyone off, but it’s business as usual, nothing will change for the consumer.”

    Templa,

    Humble Games is the publisher, Humble Bundle is another thing

    onlinepersona, do gaming w Indie Game Publisher Humble Games Reportedly Lays Off All Staff

    Our shareholders can’t buy another private jet to pollute the environment, so fuck off. Jake, you can stay though. You’ve been promoted to hold every job with a 5% raise.

    And people will keep buying their games 🤷

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    mindyabeesnes,

    Pfft a 5% raise for doubling responsibilities sounds generous.

    misk, (edited ) do games w How to Beat Elden Ring in Under 5 Minutes | Speed Break
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    Here I am at 2 months of attempting Shadow of the Erdtree final boss. I do it once or twice per week now, got incredibly close dozens of times (past meteor). Refusing to switch my weird ass incantations based build. Bayle was a complete pushover compared to this guy.

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