The man is an actual genius, I can’t believe how varied the OST is, from operatic, to jazz, etc, every track just works. He is at the same level of genius we all felt about Mick Gordon on his Doom OSTs, and maybe better. I know I’m dealing with recency bias, but this is one of my favorite games of all time already, and probably my #1 for OST.
I’m drunk on recency bias myself but I’m tempted to put him in Uematsu tier myself. I know that sounds outrageous but it’s actually that good. Even the lyrics are absolutely amazing. It will probably end up being my favourite OST of all time.
And there’s 8 fucking hours of it and not a single weak track!?
It somehow just keeps getting better too. Super strong leitmotif work as well, throughout the game. And like I mentioned, even if you don’t speak french try looking up translations for the lyrics (but after you finished the game). Some really beautiful passages, but steeped in foreshadowing and spoilers.
Yeah I’m French, and during the game there are several moments where I’m hearing part of some lyrics where I’m “wait a second, is the music actually spoiling the plot?”
I wish I hadn’t fumbled my french fluency over the past decade and a half as I still had to go back multiple times and re-listen and read the lyrics to understand them. And also the male singer on the OST sounds like he’s not a native french speaker so that makes it even harder to pick out.
But yeah, maybe it was for the best that I didn’t understand right away in the end!
TL;DR: their argument is that using AI trained on an actor, even with said actor’s blessing, is unfair because it shuts out other actors who used to get work imitating that voice.
The company says Llama Productions chose to replace human performers’ work with AI technology but did so “without providing any notice of their intent to do this and without bargaining with us over appropriate terms.” As such, SAG-AFTRA has filed an unfair labor practice complaint against the company with the NLRB.
I mean…of all the things to hate on AI for, this isn’t one. You don’t WANT an immitation voice. You want James Earl Jones. But he’s dead. AI is the best outcome possible.
I disagree, I want working actors to get paid. I will always take Maurice LaMarche over an AI Orson Welles. Just get that YouTube Grocery Vader guy like they did for Force Unleashed, he’s great.
You’re getting downvoted, but the move to fully-voiced dialogue absolutely killed the level of reactivity in games, and AI is one of the few ways to bring that level of detail back without bloating budgets even higher than they already are.
Voice acting is expensive (and makes rewrites expensive too), and spending development funds on anything players won’t hear is considered “wasted money” so you rarely see meaningful branching in storylines anymore outside of the biggest budget games. Conversations have also became short and stilted to keep recording costs and disk space down. Just look at the freaking encyclopedia that was Morrowind dialogue compared to the single sentence sound bytes used for conversations in Oblivion and Skyrim.
I’m not a fan of how AI has been handled by corporations, but if they set up a system where voice actors (and other creatives) could be hired to train models, get paid for every project that uses them, andthey (or their estate) have the right to look at and refuse projects the same as if they’d taken the contract normally, I’d be all for the AI revolution.
There’s a middle ground where generative AI is fair to creative talent and opens up a world of possibilities. It’s unlikely, but hopefully one day we get there.
Yeah, but Epic broke the contract. Union has to sue or it’s not worth anything. Simple as.
That said, the union could have gotten something else out of this if Epic did the lawful thing. Even the fact that Epic acknowledged they need to follow the contract would have been valuable.
I thought Terrance Howard was great in the first iron man, I was really bummed to find out they dropped him, then I saw the second one and you know what? Don cheadle knocked it out of the park.
I thought the daily show would be shit without Craig Kilbourn, and then bam, we get Jon Stewart. Pure gold.
If we had just used AI to knock off the originals we never would have seen other actors shine in the role
I do want an imitation voice, because I want new people. I don’t want to hear the voices of the dead just because companies don’t want to pony up. I’m ready for the next JEJ but that’ll never happen if the industry dies because companies have just been reusing AI voices instead of hiring anyone.
AI should be used for tedious tasks not creative ones.
While I agree it’s better to use real voice actors in most acting & pre-recorded situations, the audio is dynamically generated on the fly in Fortnite Darth, it’s all AI responses, including referring to you by the name of your skin/character you happen to be playing as.
I’m not sure how that could work with a pre-recorded actor, unless they program a whole AI vocal off them which while possible is a much bigger undertaking I believe?
Had a go with it today, & it was quite fun & novel, especially how it refers to you by name & asks some specific questions on things you’re doing in game at that moment, & responds to questions you ask it in a relatively good if simple/limited way. It’s obviously a fairly basic implementation so far, but this is likely the beginning of a lot of in game NPC character content whether we like it or not…
From how it sounds, especially with the actor’s permission, this seems like my preferred way of using AI-generated voices.
I’d really want to make sure any legal language around actor AI permissions is built to avoid coaxing though - like including it as an “industry standard” clause for infinite use when recording a single audition. Ideally, the voice would always “belong to” the actor it came from, and would only be licensed on specific uses, like “This NPC within this game mode, available for 8 weeks in summer of 2025”. No idea if that’s what they did here.
I don’t think dynamic generation is the right argument here. They could have an actor literally playing the character, like how character actors at Disney World interact with you. I think the argument here is scale. I’m assuming that there are a ton of instances of Vader and not enough actors to keep up with demand.
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