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Adramis, (edited ) do gaming w The Steam Deck is changing how normies think of gaming PCs.

Post: Uses the word normies in a positive sense and literally says it’s great that gaming is more accessible

Fediverse: Is this a neckbeard?

It’s amazing that a non-slur single word can get y’all so fucking bent out of shape. It was worth a double take, but not shitting on the entire post. It’s literally a post about a non-traditional gamer / not-power-user / etc person finding a sense of community and fun because of the rise of handhelds. Is shutting down that discussion over one word worth more than seeing the good in recent trends?

I hope we continue to see more good handhelds get made - I’d personally love a Steam Deck, but seeing Valve get some good competition would be good for the technology (not you, Apple / Meta). Maybe I’m just too old, but I’d love to see slide-out keyboards again…

ejl,

I’m glad that somebody said it. Lemmy is becoming quite a shit show in this regard. These FOSS enthusiasts and Linux master race people are really starting to deter me from the platform.

I love FOSS software! I love Linux! I hate people telling other people how to think or what to spend their time with. Most of the people in this thread can fuck right off.

sarsaparilyptus,

Post: Uses the word normies in a positive sense and literally says it’s great that gaming is more accessible

Fediverse: Is this a neckbeard?

The reaction is a bit more like

“B-B-B-BUT THE CONNOTATIONS!!! Bro you just LITERALLY used a word that has PROBLEMATIC CONNOTATIONS because it’s ALSO USED by PEOPLE I DON’T LIKE, and that makes you GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION!!! I am PROUD of how I combine purity testing and code switching into a DEFINITELY accurate litmus test, because I think I’m a character from Dune!! I don’t know what the FUCK ‘context’ is but it SOUNDS like something the ALT-RIGHT would care about!!!”

If I ever caught myself taking an obvious self-effacing remark seriously, I would be so ashamed. Anyone coming into this thread with hurt feelings about the word “normies” is a huge dork and needs go outside.

Evergreen5970, (edited )

I would really appreciate if we stopped doing the “if you disagree with my opinion you’re an [insult] and also must be out of touch with reality so I will say you need to go outside” thing. It’s really exhausting. This is Beehaw, the be(e) nice server and I’m kind of getting sick of seeing this kind of snark on a server where the expectation is people being nice to each other.

I was skeptical at “normies” but the overall tone of the post is inclusive, so I’m not the target of your rant because I figured it out. I was able to figure it out because I’m terminally online and have the experience with online posts to know that some people use it as a pejorative and some people use it as a self-deprecating catch-all for people who aren’t too into their hobby.

I also have autism and some people with the condition aren’t as good as me at putting together the connotations of words AND the overall post to figure out the poster’s intentions. And some people aren’t terminally online and have less exposure to seeing this word used. They’ve likely overwhelmingly seen it used as a pejorative, and end up very skeptical of this post. I don’t like the idea that people like me, or that people who might have reasonably arrived at a different conclusion about this, are being told that they’re huge dorks who need to go outside.

Really starting to feel like Beehaw is just like any other online space. I see the same amount of snark and negative assumptions of people who didn’t see something the commenter’s/poster’s way. Sure, it’s free of bigotry, but all the spaces I occupied were already bigotry-free. Even back when I was on Reddit, because in the small subreddits I looked at the few bigots were downvoted to hell and had their comments hidden. (I’m aware that not everyone was lucky enough to only be interested in topics that had easily accessible bigotry-free areas so Beehaw still serves a useful purpose for them.)

sarsaparilyptus,

Yeah, I get it. Here’s the thing though, this specific part:

I also have autism and some people with the condition aren’t as good as me at putting together the connotations of words AND the overall post to figure out the poster’s intentions. And some people aren’t terminally online and have less exposure to seeing this word used. They’ve likely overwhelmingly seen it used as a pejorative, and end up very skeptical of this post.

Those people all have one thing in common: nobody put a gun to their head and said “what’s going on with this post? Make the call and post your comment NOW”. One thing all we here on the internet do all have in common is the ability to read, and to use our sapience to make decisions about what we read. To say “this seems out of line. Could it be what I think it is, or am I assuming?” By process of elimination, a person either chooses to do that, or chooses to be assumptive. And also:

I don’t like the idea that people like me, or that people who might have reasonably arrived at a different conclusion about this, are being told that they’re huge dorks who need to go outside.

There is no reasonable way to get to the wrong conclusion.
Ever.
If you’re being reasonable, you either find the right conclusion beyond all reasonable doubt, or you concede that you don’t have enough information and then move on with your life. The only way to get to the wrong conclusion is to jump to conclusions, because being reasonable requires you to start from the point of “there may be no answer I can find”. The people in this thread who got it wrong made assumptions, jumped to conclusions, and defended themselves by being belligerent. That is a fundamental lack of respect for others’ intelligence that goes beyond being rude to people and using mean words.

Evergreen5970,

To say “this seems out of line. Could it be what I think it is, or am I assuming?” By process of elimination, a person either chooses to do that, or chooses to be assumptive.

I’m assuming you’re human right now, even though the possibility exists that you are an alien who hasn’t revealed themselves as such and that your alien self prioritizes engaging here instead of talking to the world’s governments. I’m choosing to be assumptive because I don’t care to track you down and try to match your identity to a human person in real life, because I find doing that distasteful even if I never end up exposing your identity to anyone else in the world, and because I am extremely confident that this assumption is correct. But it is still an unproven assumption.

Should I hold the possibility that on the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog or alien or something in my head because it’s an assumption? Probably not. I should probably assume you are human. People will make assumptions they believe to be reasonable, and people will also call out what they believe to be bad behavior even if they’re wrong.

sarsaparilyptus,

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  • The_Hunted_One,
    @The_Hunted_One@beehaw.org avatar

    You’ve already been asked to be nice yesterday. It’s not about “suffering fools”, its about working to make Beehaw a positive space, and acting in good faith, even when you disagree with other users. Resorting to insults is not in line with that.

    sarsaparilyptus,

    That really just went right over your head, huh? I really thought anybody would be able to make the connection. Pro tip: being nice, acting in good faith, and insulting people are all matters of intent, not just action. If you’re going to moderate based on peoples’ intent, that I’d think it’s probably pretty important that you actually be right about it in the first place. Wouldn’t you agree?

    The_Hunted_One,
    @The_Hunted_One@beehaw.org avatar

    Here’s my perspective on how I’ve viewed this exchange:

    In response to your initial comment, Evergreen expressed their opinion on how people might have interpreted a comment to be more literal than it was intended. They also expressed their desire for Beehaw to try and move away from the type of dismissive “go outside and touch grass” type of argument many of us were accustomed to seeing on Reddit. They provided examples of where the use of “normies” has previously been a negative connotation, and how someone might arrive at that conclusion based on prior experience, even if it was not accurate

    From my perspective, your response to that comment boiled down to 2 points: -No one is obligated to respond -It doesn’t matter what your previous experience is, it is wrong to assume that an interaction might be playing out like previous times it played out.

    If it were worded less aggressively and more cooperatively, I believe this could have been a very constructive conversation about social expectations and assumptions.

    Evergreen then responded with a list of reasonable assumptions that we make based on previous experience.

    You responded with an insult.

    Its pretty clear with that last message, and your responses to moderators that your intent is not to have constructive conversations and make an effort to make Beehaw a better space.

    Please take some time to read the Beehaw Core Principles section: docs.beehaw.org/docs/…/beeple-code-of-conduct/

    TheRtRevKaiser,
    @TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

    Hi, please remember to Be(e) nice. I also think it’s a little silly to get in a huge flap about the headline of this article, but I’d ask that you also remember to be kind to other users.

    sarsaparilyptus,

    I applaud your ability to suffer fools, but it’s not one I share.

    ChaoticEntropy, do gaming w What is up with Baldur's Gate 3?
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    It’s not perfect or anything, but it feels like a release with very pure intentions and people seem to resonate with that. No micro transactions, no lootboxes, no DRM (not even Steam’s is implemented), no release day DLC, fast hotfixing, and maybe with the promise of classic expansion packs. The sort of practices that people want to encourage, packaged with a formidable and generally well put together game.

    When bigger, more corporate dev studios come out and give it free marketing by saying how unrealistic it is to make games like it… that’s free, excellent publicity.

    ReadyUser30,

    It’s also bright and colourful and slightly cartoonish in a way that, say, Pillars of Eternity wasn’t. I wonder if this makes it feel slightly more mainstream, slightly more ‘fun’, and a bit less like a stodgy old CRPG from yesterday (and to be clear, I loved PoE the way I loved BG and BG2).

    It’s also got enough wild shit in it to grab a few headlines that way.

    ChaoticEntropy,
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    Yeah, it feels a bit less grimy doom and gloom, despite the narrative and themes. Being fully voice acted, and well, helps to no end with what can otherwise turn in to a wall of text reading slog.

    sznio, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 13th

    This new “Flashpoint” gamemode in Overwatch is pretty fun not gonna lie.

    OverfedRaccoon, do piracy w Red Hat linux piracy?

    The “enterprise” part is you paying for the ability to get support if you need it.

    nickwitha_k, do piracy w Red Hat linux piracy?

    Sign up for a free dev account, get a full free license. There’s really no point in trying to “crack” it, unless you want to try collecting bug bounties.

    Swallowtail, do gaming w As a recovering video game addict, what is the best way to avoid 'the jitters' when exposed something that reminds you of gaming?

    Here’s my advice as someone that quit drinking about 6 years ago due to my inability to drink responsibly.

    Do you want to quit? If you feel like you can’t handle playing a game in moderation, maybe it’s time to think about quitting it entirely. If you feel like playing other genres of games will eventually draw you back into playing more addictive games like WoW, then you could think about quitting that too, it’s up to you. If certain music makes you think about playing WoW and you can’t control yourself if you listen to it , make a sacrifice and don’t listen to it. I avoided bars for years and still don’t really love being around when people are drinking. The sacrifices I make are well worth it though and I’m much much happier as a result.

    Have a long, honest conversation with yourself about what you want from life and how video games fit into it. That’s what I did with alcohol and realized I didn’t want to waste my life on stupid shit any more and decided to quit.

    holdernick, do gaming w What happened to the Ridge Racer series?

    It’s definitely true that the Ridge Racer franchise has seen some significant changes and a lack of mainline numbered releases in recent years. The last numbered release was in 2006, and since then, the series has taken a somewhat different direction.

    The absence of new Ridge Racer titles might be attributed to various factors. One possible reason is the changing landscape of the gaming industry. As gaming technology evolved, there was a shift toward more complex and immersive experiences, which may have led developers to focus on creating games with expansive open worlds, realistic graphics, and intricate storytelling.

    Another factor could be the competition within the racing genre itself. With franchises like Forza, Gran Turismo, and Need for Speed dominating the scene, Ridge Racer might have found it challenging to regain the attention of players who were seeking more realistic and feature-rich racing experiences.

    That being said, there’s definitely a nostalgic yearning for the simple and exhilarating arcade racing experiences that Ridge Racer used to offer. Games like Horizon Chase Turbo have shown that there’s still a market for these types of games, and it’s possible that the gaming landscape might eventually swing back to embrace the arcade racer style that Ridge Racer excelled at.

    As you mentioned, it would be fantastic to see Ridge Racer make a triumphant return and reclaim its status as the premier arcade racer. The formula that made the franchise so beloved is still there, and a modern reimagining could capture the hearts of both longtime fans and new players who crave that fast-paced, adrenaline-pumping gameplay. Here’s hoping that the arcade racing genre gets the revival it deserves, and that Ridge Racer can once again take the crown as the ultimate arcade racer! 🏁🕹️

    Vordus,

    Bloody ChatGPT

    Clav64,

    How would the world feel about a ridge Racer, RR revolution, rage racer and RR type 4 remaster/reboot? The same game mechanics, menus, modes etc, just with a modern gaming engine and graphics.

    sylverstream, do gaming w As a recovering video game addict, what is the best way to avoid 'the jitters' when exposed something that reminds you of gaming?

    Sorry to hear about this mate. As someone else mentioned, perhaps it’s the type of game you play? I enjoy gaming and can moderate fine. However, recently started playing Overwatch (hey another Blizzard game) and noticed I got addicted. Couldn’t stop playing, thought about it a lot, etc. Reminded me of being addicted to alcohol or other drugs.

    I quit playing OW2, and the urges to play started to get easier, and I enjoy gaming again.

    IoSapsai,

    This is exactly what I’m doing right now. I play a game that I can play for 2 hours daily max and it’s fine, I can do without it easily. I also fell into the OW2 trap and I became unbearable to the people around me.

    I feel like I didn’t word myself properly because I haven’t played WoW or any of the “problematic” games for 6 months now. I managed to keep myself occupied with cross stitching and books. It’s when I see footage/hear music that I get these feelings of wanting to play again.

    sylverstream,

    I also fell into the OW2 trap and I became unbearable to the people around me.

    Exactly this. I became grumpy and angry, couldn’t stop “because I just have to win once” and felt like an addict. It’s a very similar feeling to alcohol which I quit 5 years ago.

    Take care. Good on you for managing it with other hobbies!

    Hundun, do gaming w As a recovering video game addict, what is the best way to avoid 'the jitters' when exposed something that reminds you of gaming?

    Are you sure you are addicted? I’m sorry, but to me it seems like you only have a problem with games that are deliberately designed to be addictive (WoW is basically a giant Skinner box, no wonder). In that case you would be just as susceptible to lots of things: like infinite-scrolling feeds on social networks, or recommendation algorithms on TikTok and YT.

    Maybe if you find a way to filter out games that exploit your psyche for engagement, there will be a way to enjoy your very clearly beloved hobby in a healthy way?

    Also, have you talked to a professional?

    bionicjoey,

    Yeah it sounds to me like OP could get on fine if they restricted themselves to games where you pay once and get the whole game. No subscriptions, no microtransactions, no DLC. Also it might have been a mistake for OP to ask a gaming community about this

    EmperorHenry, do piracy w (LINUX USER)What VPNs would you lovely people recommend?
    @EmperorHenry@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Mullvad or torguard

    The only two that proved in court that they don’t log user activity

    Private Internet access has been bought out by a different company since the last time they had to prove it

    slimerancher, do gaming w Subscribe to game release news
    @slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

    If there isn’t one, I think that’s a good idea for a website. If anyone is willing to take up the mantle. 😀

    Shizu,
    @Shizu@lemmy.world avatar

    I was just about to say that. I’ll look into creating my own Service for that then. I’m planning on doing that for

    1. Games
    2. TV Series
    3. Movies
    4. Anime

    All in one service

    ghost03080,

    Add music as well and I’m in lol

    Shizu,
    @Shizu@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll definitely look into it. If there is any database I can hook an API to, then I’ll definitely add that, too. So 5. Music

    steakmeout, do gaming w Steam Deck VS rivals

    I own Steam Deck and the ROG Ally. Steam Deck is a simpler experience, ROG Ally is more powerful and offers a true desktop experience in a handheld.

    77slevin,

    and offers a true desktop experience in a handheld.

    Awkwardly telling us it’s an unsuited Windows 11 installation on a handheld. Would not want it on my desktop, let alone on my unwieldy handheld.

    steakmeout,

    No I’m telling you that you can have more of a direct desktop experience on a handheld like ROG Ally. There’s no compatibility issues - apps and games all work as expected. What Steamdeck provides is streamlined experience but it is also limited somewhat as a result - can’t easily switch between, say, a browser and a game, can’t easily run desktop apps such as Wallpaper Engine or productivity apps. There’s a use case for Ally.

    Faydaikin, (edited ) do gaming w What is up with Baldur's Gate 3?
    @Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

    I don’t think I have a lot to add to what was already said here.

    But I will say that the Baldurs Gate series already had a pretty big following. It had an established fan-base, like Fallout. But unlike Fallout, Larian chose to stick with what people liked about the originals and expand upon that.

    So there’s another tiny reason to add to the collective.

    Mechanismatic, do gaming w As a recovering video game addict, what is the best way to avoid 'the jitters' when exposed something that reminds you of gaming?
    @Mechanismatic@lemmy.ml avatar

    Random thoughts:

    Cheat, in the worst kind of way—Full god mode, BFG with unlimited ammo, etc. That can ruin a game pretty easily when there’s no challenge and the story might not be new or interesting. Might lead to boredom and wanting to do something else.

    Play games you don’t like much and can only stand to play in small increments.

    Play casual, relaxing games like Dorfromantik that you can quit playing easily after a round or two.

    Get into game design. Make your own game so you’re creating something that you can share with others. It’s still related to your gaming interests, but could be more productive.

    Make friends with someone or a group of people who have a different hobby in common so you have a reason to socialize that doesn’t drag you back to playing games.

    Make a bucket list and start pursuing one of the items on the list like writing a novel or painting a landscape or building something practical.

    Set time limits for your gaming and force yourself to do something else that doesn’t allow for gaming, even something simple like taking a walk without a gaming device. Make gaming a reward for being responsible rather than an addictive obligation. Focus on learning to appreciate delayed gratification.

    Hank,

    Creating your own game will help against gaming addiction? That's like telling an alcoholic they should get into microbrewery.

    Mechanismatic,
    @Mechanismatic@lemmy.ml avatar

    If the goal is to spend less time with the diminishing returns of gaming, it could be effective while utilizing their interest and experience and possibly inspire other creative projects.

    fleg, do zapytajszmer w Tor a Vpn

    Zakładam, że poprzez VPN rozumiesz usługi w stylu NordVPN, AzireVPN, Mullvad itp. [1]

    VPN da Ci większą prędkość. Tor ze względu na swoją specyfikę (3 skoki dla każdego pakietu, mniej lub bardziej amatorskie urządzenia udostępniające skoki) zawsze będzie wolniejszy. Dlatego pobieranie ISO Linuksa z torrentów na VPNie pójdzie szybko, a na Torze nie dość, że będzie się wlokło, to ogólnie jest niezalecane bo będzie bardzo obciążało sieć.

    VPN nie jest anonimowy by design. Nic nie powstrzymuje dostawców VPNa przed logowaniem kto, co i kiedy wysyłał/odbierał w internecie - chociaż niektórzy chwalą się, że takich informacji nie przetrzymują, i niektórym pewnie można wierzyć. Tor został tak zaprojektowany, aby takie ryzyko jak najbardziej zmniejszyć, i chociaż 100% pewności nie daje[2], to jest w tym departamencie lepiej.

    Sprzęt, na którym działa Tor finansują albo amatorzy (z przyczyn ideologicznych), albo rządy. VPNy w większości są finansowane przez firmy chcące na tym zarobić (generalnie nic w tym złego), więc jeśli widzisz “darmowego VPNa” to omijaj szerokim łukiem, bo firma najwyraźniej znalazła inny sposób na zarobienie pieniędzy niż bezpośrednio od Ciebie.

    Oprócz wyjścia na świat Tor udostępnia również usługi wewnątrz sieci Tor. Wiele stron internetowych (BBC, Facebook jeśli dobrze pamiętam) pozwala na korzystanie z nich bez wychodzenia z Tora “na świat”.

    Podsumowując, moim zdaniem:

    • Do pobierania obrazów instalacyjnych Linuksa z torrentów: wykupić dostęp do VPN,
    • Do korzystania z publicznego internetu wifi w miejscu, któremu nie ufamy: VPN albo Tor,
    • Do korzystania z usług, za które mogą grozić konsekwencje prawne: Tor.

    Przypisy dolne z dodatkowymi wyjaśnieniami tutaj___ [1]: VPN w ogólności to technologia pozwalająca na “wpinanie” się do sieci lokalnej zdalnie. Często jest wykorzystywana w firmach w ten sposób, że na komputerze służbowym w domu wpinasz się do firmowego VPNa i masz dostęp do usług, które nie są wystawione na zewnątrz. W takim wypadku ruch z Twojego komputera idzie do jakiegoś serwera w firmie, i stamtąd ma już dostęp do owych usług - cały ruch od Ciebie do serwera jest zaszyfrowany. Nic nie stoi na przeszkodzie, żeby obok tego serwera nic szczególnego nie działało i oferował on tylko wyjście do internetu - i tak właśnie działają usługi reklamujące się jako VPN. [2]: Śledzę temat bardzo okazjonalnie, ale główne zagrożenia w torze to: - Chcący analizować ruch musi mieć bardzo dużo serwerów pracujących w sieci (co jest kosztowne, trudne i w zasięgu może takich krajów jak Chiny czy USA), lub - Wykorzystać lukę w przeglądarce i w ten sposób wydobyć informacje (Tor Browser bardzo dużo pracy włożył w uszczelnienie przeglądarki, dlatego też poleca się korzystanie z Tora z wyłączonym JSem na stronach itp).

    lysy,

    Czyli czysto teoretycznie i w uproszczeniu, to TOR jest robiony przez społeczeństwo, a vpny to prywatne firmy? Chyba, że jest jakiś non profit VPN.

    fleg,

    W bardzo dużym skrócie owszem.

    Historia Tora jest taka, że został stworzony przez rząd Stanów Zjednoczonych celem ochrony swojej komunikacji elektronicznej. Od tamtej pory został “uwolniony”, i niektórzy hostują serwery tej sieci dla własnej satysfakcji (choć nie tylko, robią to także rządy).

    Technicznie ważną różnicą między Torem a takimi VPNami jest to, że w Torze aby gdziekolwiek się dostać Twój pakiet wykonuje kilka skoków przez różne serwery, gdzie jest dodatkowo szyfrowany (dokładnie to trzy; stąd wzięła się nazwa - The Onion Router - bo ma warstwy, tak, jak cebula ma warstwy). Jako, że te serwery są wybierane mniej lub bardziej losowo, to nie ma za bardzo możliwości, żeby ktoś zaczął za korzystanie ze swojego serwera pobierać opłaty.

    Największym kosztem przy prowadzeniu takiej działalności są, jak podejrzewam, kwestie prawne. Dlatego też tzw. exit node Tora (czyli serwery które pozwalają na dostęp do zwykłego internetu z poziomu Tora, przez co jakakolwiek aktywność w internecie jest “podpisywana” ich adresem IP) są prowadzone tylko przez osoby o nerwach z czystej, najtwardszej stali, a większość firm hostingowych nie pozwala na ich działalność na ich sprzęcie. Natomiast w przypadku firm prowadzących VPN… no cóż, łatwo sobie często odpowiedzieć, jakiego rodzaju firmy opierają swoją działalność na ignorowaniu kwestii prawnych 😉

    lysy,

    W sumie to to jest bardzo ciekawe, jak sprawa wygląda pod kątem kwestii prawnych i co faktycznie można zarzucić podmiotowi, który postawił exit node’a.

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