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ushmel, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

It's not me who changed. It's the esports driven fast twitch game style that has. I should probably try out my backlog of rainbow six games.

Deconceptualist, do games w Krafton Issue Statement Regarding Subnautica 2

I’m actually inclined to believe this somewhat, for the simple fact that Krafton could be legally liable for slander if the statements are untrue.

Also, did we know previously that 90% of that $250M was allocated to the three executives? That’s a bit shocking to me. If Krafton really wanted to create goodwill, they could say that money remains on the table but would be 100% allocated to the rest of the development team now instead.

Korhaka, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

Just play different games. Sure the kids may have fast reflexes but they don’t have the wisdom to commit the number of warcrimes that an older gamer can in Rimworld.

Korkki, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

Or maybe ya’ll are have been so full of hubris and are now finally getting wiser with age and start to recognize that you were always shit or average at best.

ameancow,

It’s entirely demographical.

I was unemployed for a while when private equity butchered the company I was manager at, at some point I spent about a week playing as dedicatedly as some of the younglings and I got really good, really fast, but the moment I had to get back to the grind I fell off again.

You simply cannot compete with kids who’s primary concern in life is if their mom will keep paying for their ChatGTP subscription to do their homework for them when you have bills and family and medical procedures and loans and thousands of ropes of responsibility pulling you in different directions. You simply will not compete with people who can play several hours a day when you only get weekend nights, when you’re already exhausted and just want to sleep anyway.

HiTekRedNek, do games w I am working on a turn-based wargame, influenced by the old Win3.x era WinWar 2 game

Winwar 2 was based on a dos version of it, btw. I played it all the time with some friends back in the early 1990s.

Lembot_0004,

Yes, actually, but the difference between versions was huge. Almost different games. I reference to version 3.0

EvilEdgelord, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.
@EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works avatar

48 years old and I haven’t dipped yet 😂

Blackout,
@Blackout@fedia.io avatar

Not only that but my shit talking is unmatched!

Vipsu, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.
@Vipsu@lemmy.world avatar

Have to relate to this somewhat, it’s hard to find time or interest to practice fighting games with all the accumulated responsibilities of being responsible adult and a parent. While boomer reaction time checks are one thing, the bigger problem is having to practice against multiple different matchups in 3-4 different games. Probably should play these online a lot more, currently mostly playing on locals few hours once a week.

supersquirrel, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

What? I don’t find that at all.

People are too stressed and exhausted to live at a basic level, that tends to impact their ability to game although sometimes it makes them even more competitive with the small amount of time they have… but no I don’t agree at all.

I am far better at video games than I used to be, admittedly I play a lot of them but that only makes my hand eye coordination locked in, the actually “being good” at games has little to do with that most of the time.

SalamenceFury, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly the opposite happened to me. I’m 31 and I’ve been playing much better in terms of aiming than any other time ten or 20 years ago.

inlandempire,
@inlandempire@jlai.lu avatar

Same, maturing and looking at things more intelligently made me better at online games. Still average to be honest, but I was really bad as a kid

capuccino,
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

By the time, I got better at puzzle resolving games. Has been a while since a get stuck in a videogame.

Gradually_Adjusting, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

This is the real reason to have kids. I’m not up on the Mario Kart meta, but I’ll whup my seven year old around rainbow road any damn day.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Getting there. I’m introducing my oldest (3) to all the Mario games now.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Super recommend Mario and the Rainbow Stars! It’s a free fan game with a ton of fun moments. They’ll have fun watching, and you’ll get something new to keep your interest.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Never heard of that one, but will look it up. Thanks!

Zephorah, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

It just means it’s time for solo 4x and single player RPGs.

pennomi,

A huge Rimworld expansion drops today. Solo game players have never had it better.

Korhaka,

omg its today? I know what I am doing all weekend then.

pennomi,

I’m stuck at work right now just dying to play it

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Single player and PvE superiority

newthrowaway20, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

Jokes on you. I never had the skills to begin with.

TheAlbatross, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.

Oh no I no longer can play the incredibly toxic matchmaking multi-player games and instead have to enjoy the automation, exploration, story, management and strategy games I’ve always loved

IDew,

Factorio, my beloved

capuccino,
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. Now I only have like 3 hours to play by day and I’m not gonna waste them in losing.

Physnrd,

I’m the same way. I know some like the feeling of beating a hard boss after trying for hours, but I just don’t have that time.

ech,

The secret is they like the process of beating them too. It’s not all about “winning”.

FordBeeblebrox,

Hmm should I try different party combos in BG3 to see how the dialogue changes or run around a COD map getting shot in the back of the head every 9 seconds while ads for mtx strobe flash my corneas?

saltesc,

Feel kind of lucky. They weren’t so toxic when I was good. The only place to really find that was from the notorious Xbox Live kids experimenting with their first ever swear words.

It was when gaming reached a broader audience and wasn’t just for “nerds” that toxicity became commonplace. Went from making friends with strangers all the time to just default muting mics and avoiding communities.

Nowadays, the less reflex-deoendent, the more you’ll be surrounded by players from those days and the less toxicity. Compare HLL to MW, for example.

sp3ctr4l,

As always, the closer a game gets to being a full blown simulator, the older the playerbase tends to be.

Almost like arcady bs with autoaim and automatchmaking and very short game round times and superhuman movement capabilities appeal to people with poor impulse control.

… of course you can then go way, way too far into fullblown sim territory and end up with actual geriatrics and/or turboautists, lol.

(I say this lovingly as a turboautist who has spent probably an unhealthy amount of time in various niche sim communities, lol)

saltesc,

Kind of. Growing up playing Counter-Strike and Battlefield titles, toxicity was still a much rarer thing than these days. Hell, smacktalk wasn’t even a thing unless playing with friends and joking around.

sp3ctr4l,

Hrm, I encountered plenty of toxic assholes back on CS and BF/42/Vietnam/2, to the point that I had to explicitly seek out better communities, and then landed at Project Reality, being an alpha/beta tester / gameplay design concept discussion enthusiast (lol) with them for years.

Maybe I just had worse luck back then, or maybe its just way, way worse now with modern casual shooters.

Could be a bit of both.

I still remember the final test before PR 0.5 was released.

DBzao had written the first iteration of the injected python script that was to govern how you could request which kits depending on which squad you were in, who had what kits in your squad, how many kits were available to your whole team, etc.

Problem was… sometimes, for a completely indiscernible reason… some players just couldn’t use the system at all.

We spent 3 hours in TS … or maybe it was Ventrilo?.. we spent hours trying everything we could think of, could not identify any pattern.

As the session was being wound down, as we had basically given up… I had a realization.

I pulled up the in game scoreboard… many times.

I then started barking orders at various remaining players to see who could and could not use the kit system.

If a non alphanumeric character was in your username, you could not use the kit system.

DBzao didn’t believe this at first, pulled up his code, and then screamed.

… yep, he hadn’t properly handled strings or string conversions or special characters at some stage of the code.

We’d been stuck on this for almost 2 weeks, and 6 hours later, it was fixed and released.

sp3ctr4l, (edited )

Or you can graduate to milsims.

The controls and game mechanics tend to be so complicated that… well, people tend to have more realistic expectations from their teammates, and if you find a decent community, people tend to be more mature and friendly.

It actually requires a part time job level of commitment to be an exceptional shooter or tanker or pilot or even medic if you’re playing with a sufficiently complex health simulation… so, somewhat true to life, people tend to specialize and thus have much, much more incentive for decent communication standards.

Downside: Also true to life, a lot of games will end up feeling like 90% camping/hiking/road trip, punctuated, often essentially randomly, by 10% sheer terror.

You are not authorized for retirement unless you want a dishonorable discharge, soldier! If you need a wrist splint and vertical ergonomic mouse to continue your duties, check the nearest supply depot! Dismissed!

lol

IncogCyberspaceUser,

What milsims would you recommend?

sp3ctr4l, (edited )

Well, you got Arma 3 or Arma Reforger…

Those are pretty much the most commonly played milsims, with tons of available mods and dlc, huge expansive maps, players have their own inventories, can customize your whole load out and such…

SQUAD is sort of a milsim lite, maybe? It evolved out of Project Reality for Battlefield 2, they eventually made their whole own game in Unreal.

It retains the round based, class base core concept, but greatly expands on the more arcady nature of the Battlefield series with many more realistic gameplay concepts, much of them revolving around playing a role in a squad.

The maps aren’t as big as Arma, but you can still end up with a whole game session taking an hour or two.

There are also other games that basically aim for what SQUAD does, but not in a modern combat setting, Hell Let Loose for WW2 as an example.

I think Gray Zone Warfare is trying to be a new sort of milsim on the block, but so far I’ve heard roughly mixed reviews of it… and there are tons of ‘tactical shooters’… but they tend to be smaller in scope and usually lack vehicles, or don’t include near as many, or simulate them as extensively… and a whole lot of them tend to be developed by basically people who vastly overestimate their ability to make a game, and can be very toxic / in denial about this… so be careful with those, haha, probably check youtube for some reviews before diving in.

There’s also Gunner Heat PC if you want a very tank oriented tank sim, and DCS if you want an excruciatingly detailed, combat oriented flight sim, and you also hate money, lol.

Oh right, for basically most of these, you’re probably going to want to try and find and join some kind of larger community on discord or something like that… usually they’ll have guides, tutorials, plan matches/games on a schedule, maybe even offer some kind of psuedo boot camp / training for enthusiastic noobs, hehe.

IncogCyberspaceUser,

Thank you so much for the detailed response, a upvote wouldn’t be enough. <3

sp3ctr4l,

I threw in some more details after I made the comment, more context and hopefully more useful info =D

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

On the other hand, sims tend to get a lot of guys that are a bit too into it.

sp3ctr4l,

Yep, thats also true lol.

Quoting myself from another comment in this thread:

… of course you can then go way, way too far into fullblown sim territory and end up with actual geriatrics and/or turboautists, lol.

(I say this lovingly as a turboautist who has spent probably an unhealthy amount of time in various niche sim communities, lol)

TabbsTheBat, do gaming w I'm still in full denial, personally.
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Happened to me ages ago :3

I don’t play enough competitive games to care anyway tho

CreatingMachines, do games w Krafton Issue Statement Regarding Subnautica 2

Hey, might not have a rat in this race, but I'm gonna wait for a bit, ever since DOOM.

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