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businessfish, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
@businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

anything with turn-based combat as a core mechanic is an instant skip, nothing else about the game matters

Pika, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I share your opinion on both of those games. I also was not a huge fan of Monster Hunter or GTA,

Defaced, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Zelda breath of the wild - it’s one of the worst Zelda games I’ve ever played and I’ve played so many. There were so many bad decisions made with this game from weapons breaking to getting rid of traditional dungeons. It’s a great open world game but a terrible Zelda game.

The Horizon series by Guerilla Games - These games are good for the most part, however they suffer from long stretches of boring open world where you have to fight robot dinosaurs with underpowered weapons. The whole point of the combat is to find weaknesses with the enemies and exploit/attack those weaknesses, but the game never at any point explicitly explains that concept or focuses on that concept. It expects you to just understand what to do. Not to mention the absolutely stupid grinding for mats to make new weapons and armor. Melee combat is terrible, the story for the most part is pretty good but man does it take forever to pick up, it overstays it’s welcome. They are technical powerhouses but just so grindy and boring.

HotPurplePeach,
@HotPurplePeach@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with all you said about Zelda BOTW. As a Zelda game I was really disappointed. But if you set aside the Zelda part it was actually a pretty fun game for me. I really enjoyed the exploration and it was the best open world game I played so far. But too easy forgettable dungeons and too easy bosses and darn weapons breaking really bothered me so I’m not even interested in the TOTK. I’ll wait for the next Zelda game and keep my fingers crossed.

caseofthematts,

Pretty sure they’ve stated Zelda games will lean closer to the two recent entries going forward, so those of us who think like this really can only cross our fingers that something resembling previous Zelda titles returns.

HotPurplePeach,
@HotPurplePeach@lemmy.world avatar

What I love about the Zelda games is that they try out something new with each title. So who knows, maybe they’ll eventually do a Zelda that’s geared more to fans of the older titles.

Blaidd,

Nintendo is now saying that they aren’t planning to do another game in the BotW/TotK style, saying that they consider TotK to be the final form of “that version of Zelda”

DSTGU,

Weapon breaking is controversial but I see it as a mechanic with positive impact on the game. Just because your weapons were not permament it actually added choice into which weapon do you want to use in the battle

Defaced,

It does not add any choice. All it did was encourage me to speed run my way to the master sword and essentially go down the line of weapons I had in a boss fight until I ran out. There was no strategy, just a sense of never wanting to use any of the good weapons and hoarding them. It was so bad I marked a spot on the map where weapons would respawn every blood moon so I could at least have some good weapons. Guess what that’s called in every other game? A repair mechanic. Don’t even get me started on the master sword “breaking” for no thematic reason.

TwilightVulpine,

I’m on the disagree side on this. As much as I did use whatever garbage the game threw at me, there was no incentive to use your best weapons tactically, because unless you were fighting a boss, breaking a good weapon would not bring an equivalent reward… and then the major bosses were weak to the Master Sword anyway.

It also felt incredibly unrewarding to explore and open chests only to find yet another disposable weapon rather than some permanent upgrade like the heart pieces used to be.

Around the time I felt like Horizon Zero Dawn did more to encourage smart use of multiple weapons than Zelda did, by giving them different funcions and making it so enemies had different defenses and weak spots.

Zahille7,

I felt the same way about the first Horizon game. I was playing on normal, barely making any progress because A) I couldn’t be assed to care about any of the characters, and B) the combat was really finicky.

I mean, I get it you’re fighting giant killer machines with a bow and arrow, but still. I had a way more enjoyable time when I turned the difficulty down and got a couple mods (just ammo and carry capacity upgrades so I didn’t have to stop to collect resources after every single fight).

BURN, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Almost Anything Open World tbh

Every open world game has turned into the same “do this x times to get y reward that has no relevance whatsoever to the game”

I miss the days of games on rails. I could sit down, enjoy a game and play it through to the end in 10-20 hours. Now it seems like every game is trying to milk 100+ hours of gameplay time out of even the most basic of stories and mechanics.

Jomn,
@Jomn@jlai.lu avatar

I fully agree with you. I feel like 99% of open world games sacrificed the story and gameplay in the process.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Open world is really only good if it’s something like an MMO where the content is built up over the course of years and there are multiple story lines.

Aside from that, it works well for racing games not much else.

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

I tend to agree but then I also have moments where I get lost in the world for a few hours and it’s great. Death Stranding is probably my favourite where I walk everywhere and I spend an hour doing one delivery!

BURN,

That’s Cyberpunk 2077 (with a bunch of mods) for me. Sometimes you just end up really immersed and have a great time.

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

Yep you said it perfectly.

I also miss story driven games such as Uncharted games, playing several open world games in a row can be exhausting, I kinda feel it for game reviewers and such.

rehydrate5503,

I found the three newish Tomb Raider games to be a great mix of a sort of open world feel at times where you have things to explore, while being very much on rails. Each arc in the story gives you an area to explore and your actions in that area progress the story. You get some weapon and ability upgrades throughout. I came in not expecting much and couldn’t put the first one down. I think I finished Tomb Raider 2013 to 100% in about 20-25 hours and it was excellent. Will probably do another playthrough at some point, still haven’t played the third.

BURN,

I agree there. At the very least with the first of them. The 2nd and 3rd started to add a lot of crafting mechanics, but I really enjoyed the first one (and have played all 3 to completion)

ctkatz, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

I realize this is an overgeneralization I’m making.

every game made since the ps2 was officially retired. I don’t hate them because they’re hard and I’m just not getting the handle of gameplay. I hate them for specific reasons:

  1. the reliance on online modes. games used to be a singular affair between the player and the game. since 2008 online modes have become increasingly necessary to a requirement. with online modes comes a need for a server dedicated to that game. so what happens when the company shuts that server down? you’re sol. and piggybacking on that
  2. games are released buggy out of the box. before a game wasn’t published until it was done. now it’s released on a target date and patches get released along the way. so if you happen to be in a position where you have the physical media but no internet you could have a broken game and not be able to do anything about it. I just think about that situation with the tony hawk game where the manus didn’t ship the game on the disc and players had to download the entire game as an “update”. and what’s going to happen when that server shuts down?
  3. games are moving to downloads instead of on physical media. I’m a full believer in you buy a game you own it. some game publisher just said recently that players shouldn’t own their games anymore. gaming is going to move to a streaming model where you own a service (console/platform) and games will move on and off it when a licensing deal expires. sorry I don’t want any part of that.
  4. games made that don’t require you to be online to have any kind of gameplay are becoming rare. I’m the game player that plays the game just to play the game and doesn’t want to play against another human player online. my competitive juices don’t flow that way. I’m perfectly fine playing against the game’s ai.

tldr the internet killed gaming for me.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least back in the day, multiplayer games released with the server you could self host.
Or you’d find a chill one that you liked and it became its own little community of sorts with regulars and whatnot.
Now, some games make it genuinely hard to even play multiple rounds back to back with the same people.
The ranking system and match making superceded the lobby.
There’s still a lot of enjoyable games, gems even, but there’s a lot of hot garbage too.

I don’t think it’s (just) Internet’s fault.
Hell, we’d play Diablo over dial-up and it was amazing at the time.
I think it’s more the corpo greed making its way everywhere. No mTx, no subscription, no battle pass, no unlocking bs, no cosmetics, no unending daily grinds, just you, the game, maybe a buddy if your family didn’t need the phone.
DRM didn’t exist, they’d ask you questions about the game manual instead.
I remember bringing the Fallout manual on a trip and reading through it thinking about what character I’d make. Now everything is digital only, you’re almost lucky if it comes with a wallpaper.

callouscomic, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Third-person is objectively superior to first-person.

tiredofsametab,

I have the exact opposite opinion, heh. Sniper elite drove me crazy when I'd carefully line up a shot and be just too far inside cover and shoot a wall I couldn't see because my freaking character was in the way

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Ah yes, I love nothing more than to have my screen obstructed by none other than … ME!?! I was the villain all along!?

Konraddo, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

This is controversial for sure. But I dislike all kinds of games that focus on driving or racing or flying a plane. I don’t know but driving a vehicle like you do in real life is kind of stupid for a game idea? I want to do things that I can’t do IRL, like murdering a bunch of bad guys, or building a village, things like that. Also casting magic spells is better than shooting a gun, so I don’t really get FPS games.

BURN,

Racing games for the most part are because it is something I can’t do irl. There’s no way I’m going to get to be one of 12 drivers running the brand new Prototype race cars, but I sure can get almost as close in a racing simulator.

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

They are all just ways to “do things I can’t in real life” though. I have no interest in murdering people but I enjoy driving and 18 wheeler across Europe or flying all around the world.

seliaste, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
@seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nier Automata, I thought it was a bad pretentious story with a bad gameplay
The music is good tho

graymess,

Oh right. I keep forgetting I started this like two months ago and never came back to it.

CH3DD4R_G0BL1N,
@CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works avatar

Same exact experience

caseyweederman,

Same here as well. It’s the first game that came to mind.
It doesn’t help that there was so much hype about the storytelling.
Maybe the story’s great compared to sports games and Calls of Duty? I finished it, more out of confusion than anything else.

cafuneandchill,

I liked it a lot, but the story is definitely hit or miss. Gameplay was not as deep as other Platinum games, but still ok

Krudler,

Thank you. That game is rancid from a mechanical standpoint, and the “story” is internally-inconsistent and self-defeating right from the word Go.

kromem, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Sports games.

I know people who like them exist given the sales. But not only do I not play or like sports games - no one that plays games in my social circle does either.

It’s like the Venn diagram for people who play RPGs and those who play sports games is just two circles.

smort,
@smort@lemmy.world avatar

I get it. I’m the only one of my D&D/RPG friends who likes sports, and the only one of my sports friends who likes D&D :-/

joonazan,

Pyre is an interesting sports game IMO because it doesn’t try to look like any real sport.

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

I do find it kind of odd that some people only play the latest sports games and nothing else. Also NFL Blitz on the Dreamcast is one of the best games and I’ve never watch a game irl.

Hadriscus,

Yet it could be made to work. Imagine you make your own RPG party, but it’s a football team. Want that ball ? better cast turn undead on the ref

Baphomet_The_Blasphemer,

In my experience, sports games are for sports fans, and I’ve met very few “gamers” that are into sports.

Wirrvogel, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?
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Plants vs Zombies on PC.

Great, unique, iconic, still fun to play. Its biggest achievement: I have brought a lot of people into the hobby by making them play this as their first video game and there wasn’t a single one not having fun. Tower defense is as a whole an underrated genre if we talk about the best games of all time. It also is a game that offers achievements that add a lot to the gameplay by challenging you to change your tactics.

They of course had to make the second one mobile only and on top ruin it with microtransactions. :( Greed is why we can’t have nice things.

Jumi, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Fortnite and every souls-like

trslim, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Dark Souls 3 and only Dark Souls 3. I love Dark Souls 1 and 2, Elden Ring, Bloodborne is my favorite game, and Sekiro. But Dark Souls 3 is just so boring and unfun. Even the ingame world feels uninterested in this game, (because it kinda is over the whole age of fire thing.) Everything is gross and brown it just makes exploring kind of icky. DS1 had a good balance of gross and majestic locations and enemies. DS2 suffered from too few monsters and too many generic armored knights, and locations felt too clean and empty.

It feel like this game does not like you to diversify your build. Armor is basically cosmetic, and offers very slight damage protection. Poise sucks, and is basically removed, so making a tank build kind of sucks. Its so damn fast and doesn’t give you a ton of options like Elden Ring does. DS3 is certainly the most actiony of the action rpgs, and idk, I’d like more rpg. I remember watching a video about how playing these games at level 1 is the intended and best way to play. I can kind of see that, I think that discredits a lot of the rpg elements in these games. I always saw permadeath runs as the more fun way to play, especially in DS2, that game was like designed to be run as an arcade game.

The game also feels like it rides on nostalgia pretty hard. Anor Londo? Thats here. Andre? He’s here. Firelink Shrine? Thats here, too. Artorias? There’s a whole cult trying to cosplay as him. I actually think DS2 handled this sort of thing better, it being so far it the future from DS1 that most characters and places from 1 are only legend or ancient history. I think it gave 2 a sense of discovery, even if DS2 certainly has much less coherent lore lol.

There are good things in this game. The dlc is fantastic. Certain areas look downright stunning, often helped by the muted color palette. A lot of the bosses are fun when you use the correct play style for them. Pontiff Sullivan or Champion Gundyr is my favorite boss on my most recent playthrough, but I haven’t gotten to Gale, the Twin Princes or Midir yet.

bermuda, do gaming w How do you feel about the expression "updated for modern audiences" in remasters and remakes?

Lot of much more constructive answers here but I just wanna say that if you update a game so it no longer has unintuitive controls then I’m all for it

Mongostein,

That’s really all I ever want updated on old games. Trying to play Goldeneye with the original control scheme these days is not cool

bermuda,

Try Katamari Damacy on tank controls.

DdCno1,

If you haven’t heard of it, the canceled (but leaked) Xbox 360 remaster is the best way to play this game right now. Works perfectly in Xenia.

DdCno1,

I’m currently replaying Gothic 1. Even modified to bring it up to Gothic 2’s standards, the pain is real.

QubaXR, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
@QubaXR@lemmy.world avatar

**3D Grand Theft Auto games (GTA 3, 4, 5)**Some video essay (I can’t recall which one) compared GTA’s attitude to that of the protagonist of “Catcher in the Rye”. Its comedy is very cynical, just pointing fingers at everything and saying “they are phony”, “they suck, don’t they” and “we are too cool to even admit we’re cool”. The tone always rubbed me the wrong way and felt like these white gangsta rappers - Vanilla Ice and the kind. Rampant fanboyism does not help, either. I dared critisize GTA6 trailer somewhere (by saying “this is not for me, I will pass”) to be downvoted to oblivion and I shit you not, receive threats in DMs.

No Man’s SkyWhen it came out, NMS was a broken, buggy mess of a game with inventory management as a central mechanic. Punch trees got replaced with laser plants, but it’s basically the same loop of gather, combine, refine, build better tools. After a decade, NMS is a game chock-full of various content, with inventory management as a central mechanic. Not for me.

Souls-likes and MetroidvaniasI have plenty of rewarding challenges in my real live and consider myself lucky enough to have work that’s fulfilling and gratifying. I don’t seek validation in games - I seek relaxation and escapism. I play most games on easy and don’t feel like proving my skills in the game is the right use of my time. I can appreciate skilled players - often watching speedruns, 100% attempts or professional tournaments, but when it comes to playing - I rather pick fun, easy, light entertainment. (Death Stranding is one of my all-time favorites)

on a flip note, a game that everyone seems to hate and I quite enjoy is ForspokenSure, the dialog is cringe and there’s way too much of the same barks repeating (I need to look through menus, I think they added some slider to adjust the rate if I recall), but the traversal is fun, I love the UI design (gold and purple), I think costumes are freaking fantastic and combat is easy enough (on easy) to happily zone out to and play an hour here or there.

june, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Souls games, cod and most other FPS games namely the multiplayer, god of war, RDR2

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