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cerebralhawks, do games w Are those of us who grew up on older games more attuned to latency?

Been wondering this, or something like this.

I used to be good at Mario 1, but I cannot play it on emulators. It feels like there’s a delay. It feels a little like Mario is on ice, much like the ice levels of Mario 2. Mario is running, and I want to jump or stop, but there’s a noticeable delay and it makes me feel like my old ass has lost my touch. But playing any modern game, my reflexes are good enough. In a Nintendo to Nintendo comparison, I play Animal Crossing on the Switch, and sure enough, if I’m running and pull back on the stick, my villager skids at exactly the time I want them to. But on that same Switch with the same controller, I can’t control Mario in Mario 1 worth a damn. I do just fine in Super Mario Wonder, though.

(Side note, more to do with Animal Crossing than older games, but I’ve noticed a wired controller, plugged into the Switch dock via USB, with the Switch on the dock, gets more latency than the Switch in handheld mode, which I’m pretty sure uses Bluetooth to connect to its controllers, even if they’re physically connected — not 100% sure on that. But for one example, fishing — even the five-star rarity fish — is quite easy in handheld. But, with the wired connection, I mash A as soon as the fish bites, and it still slips my hook. Maybe the latency isn’t from the controller to the dock to the Switch, maybe it’s from the Switch to the dock to the TV (and speakers since I close my eyes and listen for the sound, which most animal crossers agree is the best way to fish).)

dustyData,

It’s mostly the TV. The input difference between wired and BT should be very small, though the switch is not optimized for wired controllers. The variability of TV response times on the other hand it massive in comparison. Specially modern TVs with heavy post processing who think they are clever trying to interpolate frames or other shit like bad HDR implementations, etc. HDMI DRM also adds latency.

All that causes most TVs to be subpar for gaming. I still game on TV, mostly cozy games. But I accept that nothing competitive will come out of gaming on a TV.

cccrontab, do games w The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

I too claimed the games to support the cause. I randomly chose Treasure of Nadia to start and found myself really enjoying the game and story. I just finished it last week and went on to buy the developers other titles (⁀ᗢ⁀).

I’ll have to give the other titles a try soon!

swelter_spark,
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I’ve been wanting to play that game for so long! It looks so good, outside the porn aspect.

cccrontab,

I would recommend it. It’s got an interesting story, problem solving, and great puzzles. There isn’t any story impacting decisions because the main character sleeps with everyone.

I’m playing the prequel to Treasure of Nadia, Lust Epidemic and don’t like it as much. It’s older and the animation isn’t as good and the story is much more rapey and cringey than TN. So it’s nice to see that the developer has grown. And also the games are connected. I’m not sure how yet, but I did meet characters from Lust Epidemic in Treasure of Nadia. I bought the latest offering from the developer, The Genesis Order, because of course it continues. But I might hold off on playing that and jump back into Expedition 33.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, do gaming w The evolution of Bethesda's Fallout
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They needed to write 71 plots in between, what do you expect?

Linearity, do games w CrankBoy - the original Game Boy game emulator for the Playdate console (my article)

Article hyperlink links to GitHub

PerfectDark,
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Damn. That’s what I get for staying up all night, isn’t it.

Fixed, and thank you so much!

Evil_Shrubbery,

What were you Boy doing all night? (:

darreninthenet,

Cranking...

Evil_Shrubbery,

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

ClownsInSpace2, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 24th

Just started playing through Chrono Trigger for the first time

Deyis,

Possibly one of the best soundtracks of all time.

itsgallus, do gaming w just got Shadow of the Colossus for my PS5 today, amazing and beautiful game thus far.

It’s such a liminal game. Love it. Some colossi are frustrating, though, but remember they all have a strategy to them — the battles are like puzzles. Don’t be ashamed to look up the solutions if you get stuck. They still take some skill to carry out once you’ve figured them out.

0li0li, do games w Random Image Of A Game I'm Playing

Which game is that?

wry,

Peak. I'm playing on Steam.

dan69,

It’s great game to watch and play with folks.

Panda,

It’s Peak.

ampersandrew, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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Guilty Gear Strive just got a big balance patch and a matchmaking update, and it’s great to be back. The experience of playing the game is better than ever.

I’ve still been going through Kingdom Come: Deliverance II. It remains the best game I’ve played this year. I’m working my way through the Brushes With Death DLC, which has some interesting mission design if not the most compelling narrative. I think I’ve done all the side quests I planned to do before finishing the game, so I’ve got the last third or so of the main quest to return to after I finish the DLC. Then the second expansion comes out early next month.

I also started playing Mafia: Definitive Edition, and boy have I missed crime drama stories in video games. This one is pretty by-the-numbers when it comes to gameplay, but after 4 hours, they’ve got plenty of interesting set pieces and narrative beats. I’m very much into this. I plan to play through the next two games before picking up The Old Country.

Other than those, I’ve got a project I’m working on to set up a VPN that I control, rather than trusting an external service whose terms of service could change at any time, so that I can play old LAN games with my friends in this era of live service multiplayer games. Once I get it all sorted out and working, maybe I’ll write up a post here so others can do the same.

Aielman15, do games w Looking for a game like "99 days in the forest" to play with my kid, but not on roblox
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

What is 99 days in the forest, for those of us who have never looked at a Roblox game?

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Well I haven’t actually played it. But you start out in the center of a forest. You have a fire. You collect would to level up the fire. That opens more space in the forest… you collect things, level up things, find things… there is a random deer that attacks you at night or something. And some wolves at some point. But unlike raft, satisfactory or Minecraft it is a shorter overall play through. And the forest is different each time. So you play until you die or win. But it doesn’t let you save, which is annoying for me, even if a play through should only take an hour or so.
I am open to other ideas as well. We have put many many hours into raft. Also satisfactory, minecraft, tf2 (though my wife doesn’t like that one :) )

Creativity,

I can’t think of any short playthrough games off the top of my head, but Valheim might work if you’re open to something longer.

cwista,

Sounds like Don’t Starve Together

theangriestbird, do gaming w THE SILKSONG IS REALLLLLLLLLLL
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

The special announcement? it’s being delayed.

psx_crab,

It’s a prank, bro!

chloyster,

😫

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

in all seriousness, i am so ready to hear that sweet, sweet song of the silk.

Lili_Thana, do games w Day 398 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

You can play split screen multiplayer if you go to the 2p wireless mode and make an empty room to run around in. There’ll be an annoying waiting to connect message at the very bottom though. The only downside is that you can’t do the P block challenges. But the ? Panels and Peach Medallions are still there. My 4 year old loves doing this with me.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I handed it to my brother the other day to play for me and the P Blocks and ? panels were like his favorite thing to do lol. Races? Nope. He wants to do collectibles. Granted he’s older than your 4 year old, but it is funny seeing how much children are enjoying the collectibles

LukeZaz, do gaming w Can we talk about the Roblox situation?

I made a post about it for a more general discussion but I think it’s worth saying here too: Chris Hansen is an irresponsible hack at best and he is very likely to misinform. There are far better people around if you want to learn about the many harms to children caused by Roblox.

Kolanaki, do games w Been getting more and more obsessed with supermarket simulators recently 🛒. These are my favourites, what are yours?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I need to hop back into the OG (Just Supermarket Simulator) and check out the changes. They added crime and cleaning to it since I last played. Maybe even more.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

That looks pretty cool actually and I've just seen you can get self checkout tills too. Might have to give it a try. Not a big fan of them adding crime though. I used to run a shop a few years ago and crime was never a fun thing to have to deal with.

Tanoh,

You can turn off crime in the options menu.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

I just bought Supermarket Simulator and played it for 5 hours straight. It's so addictive!! 😆 That birdsong gets on your nerves after a while but I saw there's a mod that removes it so I'll try that tomorrow.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Quick update apparently 5 days later, I've now played 55 hours of this... Such an addictive game! 😁

EldenLord, do gaming w Can we talk about the Roblox situation?

This whole pedo affair is only the final nail in the coffin of morality for Shitblox. From a gaming perspective, the outrageously predatory (pun intended) microtransactions and Robux currency do absolutely not belong on a children‘s gaming hub where probably >50% of players don‘t even have a real understanding of money yet. And parents don‘t care, as we see with social media in general. Apple pay, google pay etc. make it purposefully easier to make repeated card payments by children using their parent‘s info. In this economy btw, so Uh-Oh thats baaaad. Just shut the whole circus down and buy your kids single player games on steam sale.

Kyle_The_G, do games w Day 396 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I heard its “slow” compared to past mario karts. Care to comment on that? I’ve also been holding off on a switch2, I just can’t justify the upgrade yet.

Stovetop, (edited )

I wouldn’t say it’s “slow” per se, but it does feel different, and in some ways I believe it’s not as good as its predecessors.

One consideration is that it does not have the 200cc mode that MK8 added after the fact. It’s currently (maybe permanently?) at the default max speed of 150cc.

The biggest difference for me though is the courses. Previous MK games use circuit courses, where you start at the finish line and you race in 3 or more laps in a circle that returns to the same finish line. MK8 fleshed out a bit more by incorporating lengthy straightaway courses, where you start at point A and race to point B, with laps being more like checkpoints along the way. But the majority of tracks in MK8 were still circuits.

Mario Kart World, on the other hand, is primarily straightaway style tracks with only a small smattering of circuits, because it’s attempting to integrate everything with the open world map they made, and those tracks also feel like they have less character. The majority of races feel harder to pace because most of them do not repeat themselves, and there’s less opportunity to learn a lap and do better on the next one within the same race.

There’s also the fact that they doubled the number of characters in each race compared to MK8. MK8 had 12 racers per course, MKW has 24. All of those racers are still picking up items, still tossing red shells and blue shells everywhere, still spamming lightning, etc., so it feels a lot more chaotic.

Accommodating that aspect is the fact that it now takes 20 coins to hit max speed instead of 10, because they assume you’re going to get hit by more things that you can’t avoid, so it can take longer to ramp up your speed from the beginning of the race.

Final notable difference that may contribute to a feeling of “slowness” off the top of my head is that you no longer choose parts of a kart like you did in MK8. You simply choose a racer and choose a cart, and your stats are based only on a combination of those two factors. It is more difficult to optimize for things like acceleration, max speed, and turning because you can no longer mix and match parts that exactly fit your stat preferences.

All of this is just my opinion from having played it, but I think that MK8 is still the better Mario Kart game. Just considering how content-dense it is after years of DLC, and the fact that it still runs well on Switch 2, tells me that it’s still worth keeping around and still a good go-to for Mario Kart nights with friends. MKW is still a fun game, and I’d recommend it for Mario Kart fans looking to change things up a bit, but it tried a lot of new things and not all of them work as well as I think they could have.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with your last point. Mario Kart 8 will probably be my go to for casual friends. I appreciate World trying to experiment but it needs a bit to grow into it’s shoes and figure things out I think

caut_R,

Not OP. I certainly think it is slower, especially with the absence of 200cc, but I also don‘t make much use of grinding/walldriving so I‘m likely a lot slower than I could be. I just generally like MK8 more since a lot of the tracks really have that „this is a filler track between tracks“ feeling to them for me. YMMV.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I had a friend give it a try too. I personally didn’t notice a difference (but also my go to Mario Kart is 64). But he plays a lot of 8 deluxe and kept commenting on how slow it is.

I really like the switch 2, and with my switch 1 being broken for me. It’s much more of a “Buy a new switch 1, and a $100 investment into the new system”. I think I will get one soon, but I think I’m gonna hold off for a bit just to see what exclusive it’s gonna get, because the ones I’ve seen aren’t very appealing to me.

Kyle_The_G,

good call. I’ll wait for a few more games to come out then maybe pull the trigger later. I’m busy going through a catalogue of unplayed games like ace attorney and luigi’s mansion (I’m playing couch coop with my significant other through the stories of games we found on sale).

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Damn. You just reminded me I need to pick up Ace Attorney again. I played it on my 3DS, got to the second game, then dropped it and proceeded to be it on 3 separate systems. I really should pick it up again because it was so much fun

slimerancher,
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Shameless plug, but you should join !nintendo 😀

Kyle_The_G,

just did, thanks!

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