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_thebrain_, do games w Any good Android games that aren't roguelikes?

Balatro is rogue like? Maybe I don’t understand the genre as much as I thought.

Unboxious,

These days when people say roguelike they just mean a game that divides its gameplay into short, disconnected runs instead of one long, continuous save. It unfortunately has nothing to do with whether a game is anything like Rogue.

turkalino,

Yes, the term is often misapplied, but Balatro has the other key part of actually being a roguelike which is leveling up your build periodically from a randomly selected set of options. The bosses are also randomly selected. It very much is a roguelike

Unboxious,

leveling up your build periodically from a randomly selected set of options

The bosses are also randomly selected

Those are neat and trendy features, but I don’t see how they make it anything like Rogue or its ilk.

woodytrombone,

The definition of roguelike has been stretched to the point of near-uselessness, lol. Nowadays, any game with permadeath and “runs” is classified as a roguelike.

Personally, I’d prefer it if we stuck a little closer to the Berlin Interpretation definition.

Quibblekrust, (edited )

No, it’s rogue-lite. Not -like. Rogue-lite games have randomized runs, permadeath, and (often tons of) meta-progression involving spending stat points, or unlocking new skills or weapons. In many games, the difficulty decreases by unlocking new skills and adding stats. Sometimes the games increase their enemy difficulty as you earn victories in order to balance the difficulty with all the new choices and skills you have. And sometimes entire game mechanics get added to more you play: new zones and new things to do.

Example rogue-lite games: Binding of Isaac, Undermine, Enter the Gungeon. Even games that have a real sense of story and progression might have tight gameplay loops that can cause people to call them rogue-lites, or say they have “rogue-lite mechanics”. Example: Dave the Diver.

Rogue-likes, on the other hand, are turn-based dungeon crawlers that have very little or no meta progression. They may have training wheels like being forced to start with a simple class and unlocking additional ones doing simple things in-game. They do this to avoid overwhelming new players with character choices, and not to make the game easier as you play. You get better by learning the game, and not by unlocking more things or adding to stats.

Examples: Shattered Pixel Dungeon, Brogue, Caves of Qud.

slazer2au, do games w Games Where Nothing Happens (SPOILERS for various game plots)

Arguably Mass Effect 1.

You spend the game warning about the reaper threat and you are constantly brushed off. Then the bbg attacks the citadel and you fight them off.

Second game: oh that plot from game 1? Yea, that was an isolated incident by different species and not the enemy you were warning is about.

Game three: HELP!!! The friends of bbg from game 1 are attacking you have to save us.

trslim,

Mass Effect 2 kind of pisses me off, ngl. The characters are so good, but the plot is really kind of bad. Forcing Shepard to work with Cerberus makes zero sense, especially since my Shepard went out of their way to murder Cerberus employees for what they did to their squad.

Nico_198X, do games w Can an American explain to me what's with the grooves on PS1 NTSC cases?
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ampersandrew, do games w How do gameplay youtuber develop interesting commentary?
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Why would I watch your channel when I could watch someone else’s? A good answer to that question is how you grow an audience. I watch a lot of fighting game content on YouTube, and I can find value in Maximilian Dood for being good at explaining the legacies of old games or what makes new ones tick; I can find value in commentary and breakdown from those who win major tournaments and break down the subtleties that I might have missed. But there are hundreds of channels YouTube wants to show me of people playing those same games with no reason for me to actually click on them in the first place.

I made what people seem to think are a couple of good video tutorials to teach Skullgirls quickly. It’s got a reputation of being exceptionally hard, but I disagree, and I thought I could explain them quickly. They worked, but the more general fighting game tutorials I made after that didn’t do so well. Maybe there isn’t as much demand for them as I thought, or maybe they just weren’t as good. Still, I was making something that I felt like people couldn’t easily get elsewhere.

Quetzalcutlass, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

StarCraft and Brood War were amazing, but the writing quality took a nosedive in the sequel. StarCraft 2 felt like poorly written fanfiction that didn’t understand the existing characters or their motivations at all.

BreadstickNinja,

Completely agree. The whole tone and setting changed. SC:BW went for gritty realism. Obviously, there’s a suspension of disbelief when you’ve got psionic aliens, but it felt like three scrappy factions barely surviving in the endless dark of space.

SC2 went full Warcraft. Ancient gods, portals to other worlds, all the same kitschy fantasy elements that are fine in the campy context of WC but really clashed with the established character of the SC universe. I get that they wanted to raise the stakes in the sequel, but I really disagreed with how they went about it.

And Kerrigan should have stayed evil. That’s my “Han shot first” of the franchise.

Quetzalcutlass,

And Kerrigan should have stayed evil. That’s my “Han shot first” of the franchise.

Agreed 100%, how Kerrigan was handled was the worst of StarCraft 2’s many sins against prior characterization. They spent an entire expansion setting her up as an irredeemable monster and the new big bad of the setting alongside Mengsk and whatever Duran was up to, only to undo it all because NuBlizzard wanted their waifu.

And there is no way Jim Raynor as of the end of Brood War would ever ally with Kerrigan again after her betrayal, yet he goes from having sworn to get revenge for Fenix’s death to helping Kerrigan “redeem” herself with little more than a mention of past grievances.

BreadstickNinja,

Maybe Jim was just in a really good mood after all his hair spontaneously grew back. /s

gonzo-rand19, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
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I'm going to say The Last of Us 2. I loved the first one so much, and then 2 was not what I wanted or was expecting, which completely killed any love I had for it and any desire for a larger franchise.

I was hoping for an anthology series where each game focused on a different group of people in the same universe. I loved Joel and Ellie, but I wanted their story to be over and to get a look at how other people had dealt with things.

missingno, do games w Gamers have you ever been in a game competition or something similar?
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I travel to Combo Breaker every year and enter a whole bunch of games. This year I was able to up my travel budget for both CB and Frosty Faustings. Some of them are games I consider myself decent at, some of them are games I just hop in casually for fun. And then there's the Mystery Bracket, where every round is something you've probably never heard of and the goal is to figure out what's happening before your opponent does - it's the highlight every year. Back in 2022, I even TO'd and commentated the side tournament for Puyo Puyo Champions, and I got roped into filling in on commentary for Panel de Pon.

In a double elimination bracket, 25% of players will go 0-2. If this is your first time entering, you should expect to be one of them. And you shouldn't let that stop you from going to have a good time! Majors are basically conventions that happen to have brackets at them, and that bracket will only be a small fraction of your time all weekend. Get as many casual sets in as you can before/after bracket, check out the arcade room, buy some trinkets with your favorite characters on them from the artist alley, watch finals, go out to dinner with rivals you'd only ever spoken to online before and finally get to meet in person. Oh, and come to the mahjong tables where you'll find me promoting this strangely unexpected venn diagram intersection.

And that's just what majors are like. If you have any kind of local FGC, go to your locals! Don't just sit at home playing ranked, get out of the house and meet people!

emb,

100% agree! I used to go to Smash locals on the regular, and it’s so much more welcoming than I thought it would be at first.

There’s no expectation for any skill level, just show up ready to learn and people will mostly encourage you and help.

Carnelian, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)

Sounds like the Fire Emblem games would be perfect for this!

emb,

Agreed! There are several good ones on 3DS.

Advance Wars is also a great option - you can play a couple of them on 3DS with back-compatibility. Or, of the pocket can play GBA, there’s those.

And there are some PC games out there (although much more recent than 2005) that are in similar genres, like WarGroove or Dark Deity.

ArsonButCute, do games w what video game deserves to be in a museum?

All of them.

Art is art is art.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

All glory to Hareraiser!

ArsonButCute,

Bad art is still art

oplkill,

Even stolen art still art

christian,
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I clicked your link not expecting to watch more than thirty seconds but watched the full thing, that was a great lecture.

otp,

Not every single piece of art goes into a museum

Mister_Feeny, do games w Robocop: Rouge City

"Rouge" City.

You're a little quick to be pointing fingers about spelling, OP.

bognus,

Almost as if it was intentional or something, huh.

Kolanaki,
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It’s rouge becauwe of all the bad guy blood.

Quicky,

Clearly I need to signpost my jokes better.

Lucky_777,

That’s at least 65% of the comedy here.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w I feel these companies stole my money by delisting game, and I'm sure others feel the same. Nobody is sure if the EU will get the law passed. So it got me thinking -- why not revive games together?

Your money wasn’t stolen if a game was de-listed. If you already paid for the game, you can still download it. De-listed just means that people who don’t already have it in their library cannot purchase it anymore. That’s not theft.

pathos,

Sorry, I meant ‘removed’ and all other forms of it.

missingno, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?
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Live a Live's Twilight of Edo Japan chapter gives a special completion reward if you complete it with zero kills, or a full 100 kills. It's designed in such a way that figuring out how to do the pacifist run is a puzzle you are unlikely to solve on your first playthrough.

This mechanic was actually one of the inspirations for Undertale!

nore,

As far as I know this mechanic wasn’t in the original SNES game, only in the remake.

missingno,
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It is in the original. For the most part, 2022 is very faithful to the original and doesn't feature any big structural changes (apart from one new thing that's a big spoiler), mostly just balance and quality of life improvements.

Like I said, Toby Fox openly cited this segment as an inspiration for Undertale (2015), and that came before the 2022 remake.

RagingRobot, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

Why are they doing a comprehensive audit on the content and not doing a comprehensive audit on new payment providers? I sure would be

brucethemoose,

Because they would basically die off without the credit card processors, I assume.

RagingRobot,

Yeah so they should shop around now that theirs seems to be problematic

brucethemoose,

What I meant is that simply excluding Mastercard and Visa would turn away tons of sales and donations, even if they worked with every other payment processor on the planet at once.

They… could. But it would hurt, maybe even kill Itch.

Spoomis, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

My biggest issue with this situation is: if they can get away with getting games they don’t like being delisted, where does it end? Delisting books with themes or authors they don’t like? Banning the sale of alcohol and cigarettes?

DegenerationIP,
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Honestly haven’t thought so far. But Media lacks that, as almost everything is clickbait.

And you got a point. There is questionable stuff. But killing off a whole area is like a bit shot on a small bird

Atomic, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

Attention work both ways.

People who were not aware, now are. From all sides.

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