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Kolanaki, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations
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Boktai!

Ugurcan, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

Minecraft singlehandedly created a genre called “Survival”.

I think most of the games around 2005’s Indie Game Boom created lots of brilliant mechanics that’s been copied still.

Soggy,

Single-handedly? Nah. It pulled a lot of existing ideas together though, and it’s certainly responsible for the popularity. Another Minecraft influence is early-access.

Die4Ever, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations

Zelda: Minish Cap, and Castlevania are my favorites

thief_of_names,

Minish Cap is just absolutely amazing. The world is small, but very well made and fun to explore. It has aged very well (I imagine most GBA games have?) so I would recommend everyone to give it a go if they like that sort of game!

I’ve never tried any Castlevania games, maybe it’s time.

Thevenin,

The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap is one of my favorite games of all time. It’s the last isometric Zelda game, and they made it a swan song. The main quest it pretty short, but it’s the sort of cozy game where doing the sidequests just feels right.

In the game, you shrink down to the size of a mouse to traverse rafters and explore tiny temples and float on lillypads. It’s the sort of thing that would be no big deal in a 3D game, but is wildly ambitious in 2D. Not only do they pull it off, but they fill the environments with lush, lived-in detail that springs to life when you shrink down and look at it up close. The art style still sticks with me after 20 years.

Also, forget all the “hey, listen” stuff, your sidekick Ezlo just sasses you the entire time. It’s great.

xanu, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

I’m not 100% sure if factorio was the first, but the devs at Wube certainly perfected the idea and now there’s a whole market for the “factory game” genre.

frezik,

Even if it’s not the first, I’d say it’s the first that figured out that computers were powerful enough that you can have a gobsmackingly huge factory.

Sickday, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations
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Here's my top 8 in no particular order

  • Golden Sun / The Lost Age
  • Drill Dozer
  • Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland
  • Summon Night Swordcraft Story 1/2
  • Mega Man Battle Network 3, 5, and 6 (either flavor of each is good)
  • Mother 3
  • Astro Boy Omega Factor
  • Sonic Battle
Buddahriffic, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

For first person shooters (mix of first introduced and popularised):

Doom: started and popularised the genre. Also started and popularised rasterized 3d graphics for gaming (though the game itself was still 2d). Also first fps multiplayer and modding

Quake: various game modes (Deathmatch, capture the flag), as well as being the first true 3d fps. Popularised multiplayer and modding.

Team fortress (quake mod): Different specialist characters.

Goldeneye 64: popularized multilayer console fps, taught character size can be a significant advantage/disadvantage, depending on if you got Oddjob or Jaws.

Half-life: started horror fps genre, (mostly) seemless world

CS: customizable loadouts instead of search for guns each time you spawn, more game modes

UT: AI bots

Perfect dark: secondary fire for weapons

Deus ex: rpg fps

Halo: finally figured out a decent controller control scheme (one stick looks, one moves, button for grenades rather than needing to select grenade from list of guns). First fps I remember vehicles in, too.

Battlefield: large scale multiplayer

Socom: fps game that isn’t first person, online console multiplayer

Call of duty: using gun sights to aim

Far cry: open world fps

Doom 3: used lighting (or lack thereof) to bring fps horror to a new level.

Crisis: famous for pushing hardware and people caring more about the benchmark results than the game itself (I tried the second one, it was ok but I didn’t really get into it)

Call of duty: zombies (and other alternate game modes), kill steaks, online progression (unlocking guns and attachments as you level, prestige levels)

HL2/portal: brought physics and its involvement in fps games to a new level

TF2: f2p, microtransactions (though not predatory or p2w so the game isn’t remembered for this)

Borderlands: loot-based fps rpg

Metro 2033: fps survival

Halo reach: custom maps

Destiny: MMORPG FPS

Overwatch: hero-based, and hero roles (dps, tank, healer)

Pub bg: battle Royale

BreadstickNinja,

Alien Resurrection on PSX was the first game to use the dual-stick control scheme. Halo came out more than a year later.

Funnily, it was reviewed poorly at the time: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/10fbe09d-ae21-487a-9a17-c1b3bab8b596.png

Duamerthrax,

Game journos have always been a joke.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Yes, but they have definitely become worse in recent years.

pyre,

i disagree with a lot of this

djsoren19, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

Kinda wild to see nobody mention System Shock, the game that invented audio logs. It may seem quaint in retrospect, but at the time all shooters were in the vein of Doom, and story in a shooter was considered “like story in porn.” System Shock was not only the first to communicate the plot and next steps to the player through found audio logs, but it also filled the player in on side stories and provided characterization to the survivors on Citadel station.

The game recently got a remaster, and despite very few gameplay changes, still holds up really well in 2024. You can really see the bones of later games in it, such as story focused shooters like Bioshock or F.E.A.R. and I’d really recommend it to anyone interested in playing a great retro game.

VindictiveJudge,
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They also said popularized, though. System Shock never really got beyond cult classic status, so while it invented them, I’d say BioShock popularized them.

SloppilyFloss, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations
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Yoshi’s Island!

Brosplosion, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations

Might sound odd, but I loved Dark Arena. Basically a Quake-esque FPS but for the GBA.

OttoVonNoob, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone say Pokemon. From a. monster collecting/battle game nothing has really came close.

somnuz, (edited ) do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

This might be a little on the side of the main topic but there was always something cool about Crash Bandicoot 100 Apples > 1 Life, and you could grind more to make some levels more forgiving, like semi-adjustable difficulty level based on your previous approach… And later on — warp zones, you get to choose from a few options so the progression has variation.

Another thing that comes to mind, not sure if a first game to do it, THPS for unlocking movies and later cheat codes, modes and characters for finishing the career. Plus the whole gap marathon for Private Carrera.

Oh, and chanting from Oddword where it had various uses, for saving friends or for changing into enemies, or using special abilities. This definitely was something, because I still remember thinking as a kid, “how cool is that this one ability has so many different uses”.

Dasus,
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100 Apples > 1 Life, and you could grind more to make some levels more forgiving, like semi-adjustable difficulty level based on your previous approach… And later on — warp zones, you get to choose from a few options so the progression has variation.

100 coins = 1UP and warp zones? And… you think they’re from Crash Bandicoot?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5dc0ae95-c8a8-4ae2-a2af-7151ee8ad08c.gif

somnuz,

Well, when I was writing that, after midnight I will add, I had this feeling that Mario was doing this thing earlier but for me Mario stands as an icon for the first level design overall as a golden standard for introduction to mechanics and really efficient use of memory for data, and one of the first uses of dynamic music… So you are totally right, Mario brought a lot of things, I’ve just played Crash much more.

Dasus,
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Fair enough.

My point is that the reason you played this game so much is that it existed because of Super Mario.

Thus the answer to OP’s question in relation to this would be Super Mario Bro’s, from which Crash is derived.

somnuz,

Well then… To stay true to the history, we probably would have to go back to Galaxian from ‘79, which introduced 1-UPs / additional lives, bonus stages and player upgrades, plus simple summary / statistics for hits and misses.

Dasus,
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See but the question isn’t “originated”.

It’s “popularised”.

Which Mario clearly did, outpassing both “Galaxian” and Crash in terms of popularity.

I know that Crash is bigger for you, but in the big picture, comparing Mario to Crash is like comparing Pokemon to Digimon.

vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Mario

The main core series, Super Mario, began with the platformer game Super Mario Bros. (1985) on the Nintendo Entertainment System. The main games consist of Mario trying to rescue Princess Peach from the villain Bowser and saving the Mushroom Kingdom.

As of June 2024, the Mario video game franchise has sold more than 900 million units worldwide, making it the best-selling video game franchise of all time. The main Super Mario series alone has sold more than 495 million copies worldwide.

Super Mario Bros. 1985 NES, estimated revenue $1,652,300,000

Have to scroll quite far down this list …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_video_game_… to find Crash.

somnuz,

See, you are right and that’s exactly why I started with “This might be a little on the side of the main topic”

Dasus,
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Hmm. Fair enough, fair enough.

Cypher,

You’ve likely listened to the same or similar lectures I have on level design and I seriously apply those lessons to every single game and UI I have influence over!

BigLgame, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

People always forget that resident evil 4(? There is a million of them) made third person shooters mainstream.

Dasus,
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What are you smoking? That’s like a 2005 game.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_shooter

Jonathan S. Harbour of the University of Advancing Technology argues that Tomb Raider (1996) by Eidos Interactive (now Square Enix Europe) is “largely responsible for the popularity of this genre”.

Hell, Max Payne was definitely more popular, and it came out in 2001.

BigLgame,

Well you are right but I’m talking about the style and feel that one of those earlier pivot resident evils created. It plays the same as gears of war and all other cover shooters that followed. Sure third person existed but everything today plays in a way that series established.

Dasus,
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So like the other person said, specific camera things in the genre, not the genre itself.

Which would be more accurate, since the genre existed for years pre-RE4

pyre,

not 3rd person shooters, but over the shoulder camera.

BigLgame,

Yeah that’s a better way to put it, everything that followed took that same path

pyre,

yeah it was such an improvement so instantly adopted that people forget 3rd person shooters used to put your character right in the middle before that.

Moonrise2473, do piracy w The risks of downloading music at home with wifi

It’s just music, not csam

There are many ai companies pirating millions of songs for their profit and they are operating without problems, what they’re going to do to an individual that “stole” a couple songs?

Worx,

Wait until you hear about this new thing called: one set of rules for rich people & their companies, one set of rules for poor people

ProdigalFrog, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations

Rock’n’roll racing got a pretty solid GBA port, it’s a fantastic little isometric battle racer from the 90’s

TDK3D, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations

Most of the games I liked have already been mentioned but I’d like to add Lady Sia.

A solid platformer that was quite difficult to beat for me as a kid.

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