My biggest concern is your storage. Thats a PCIE 3 x 4 rather than a PCIe 4 x 4. I went with the 1 TB Solidigm P44 for $50. There’s also the Samsung 990 Pro which has gone on sale a few times recently. The Samsung NVMEs all slap, it the two drives I mentioned are meant to be the fastest available.
You have a micro-ATX board with a Mid tower ATX case, by the way. You could get a smaller case, if you wanted to. $120 is an amazing price for a B650 board, I paid $180 and thought that was the best I could do because I only looked at Newegg.
On your RAM I made sure the RAM I bought was certified for AMD EXPO. The newest overclocking solution. Without overclock, RAM will often run at 5200 or 5600 depending on the motherboard. But 6000 is meant to be the sweet spot for this series of CPUs. I disagree that 32GB is necessary. You can always double it up from 16GB later on. Edit: CSky2? You mag actually want the 32GB, that would be a quick check with a benchmark or a user post about RAM consumption by the game to confirm if 32GB would have payoff or not.
Why the 6700 XT instead of the RX 7600? I decided the 7600 was a better value because I want to game at 1080p for the next few years. I went with the 7800X3D and after taxes my build was $1400. Ouch that was a hard pill to swallow. I started below $1000 and got greedy. But we’re splitting hairs, if you prefer one of these cards then power to you.
I imagine your CPU and your GPU both recommend a 650W power supply, and I imagine you know something I dont and 600W will handle it fine. But if they recommend 750W, I would just double check.
Edit: by the way Newegg has the Fantastech sale starting now-ish but really opening up on October 9th. And I think Intel is announcing new products next month? I’m unsure. Obviously I decided to do it now, and if I have buyer’s remorse so be it.
6700XT is still a bit faster than the 7600, I think. Feel free to correct me on this.
Agree on the SSD, while a PCIe4 may not be needed, I'm sure there're plenty of better SSDs than the Intel for cheap at this point in time. The price drops have been pretty good across the board.
6700 XT ($320) is indeed faster than the RX 7600 ($250) - it’s just that I already know OP is on a 1080p (22") monitor. I’ve seen the BG3 and CS:2 benchmarks, but not the cities skylines 2 benchmarks.
I also have a stupid question, but does support / firmware updates matter a lot for GPUs? It’s been a while for me. The 7600 is brand new from last month, and the 6700 XT is from… 2 years ago? Is that support gonna expire soon or am I making up a problem that doesn’t exist?
25+ years of GPUs from three different major companies, and I don't think I've ever upgraded the firmware on my GPU. Support is based on the API, be it D3D or Vulkan or OpenGL. As long as there's support your card will work.
Gamers Nexus said they will do a Cities Skylines 2 benchmark next week I think. Not that it will necessarily change your build at all, I’m guessing this will handle it fine and the Gamers Nexus benchmarks of BG3 would have you walking away with the same set of conclusions that you’ve already arrived at.
I think a DDR5 build at this point is the way to go, but I’d highly recommend getting a bigger power supply for future proofing. I’d also consider a slight bump in the video card. Definitely get a bigger power supply though, as I made that mistake doing a 2020 build, only could get a 2000 series NVIDIA GPU at the time, so I just stuck a 650W in as that’s all it needed. Then once shit calmed down, I decided to catch the 5800x3d discount wave with a 4070ti and I had to get a new power supply. Spend the extra 50 bucks now, rather than spending $150 down the road and cursing yourself the whole time as you have to essentially rewire your whole setup. I wouldn’t go lower than 850W these days, and that’s going to be overkill for your setup right now, but it likely won’t always be.
You’ll also need more RAM soon enough too, but that’s easy breezy down the road, allocate your money to something else right now. Just make sure to get it on two sticks and if your motherboard has four slots (pretty sure it does), you can always grab two more matching sticks on sale down the road. Problem solved.
Oh, get a better hard drive than that too, there’s a reason it’s so cheap (PCI3). Just grab a 1TB for about the same price, but a PCI4 one. This is also something thats super easy to update down the road, and you don’t need to worry about for a bit, as 1TB will probably get you through the next year at least.
Might want to wait for the benchmark tests to come out first, if the build is for CS2. I remember CS is pretty CPU heavy, so you might want to hold off on your choice of platform first.
Edit: Also, do check with the PSU tier list, don't have to get A tier, but try something from B. A good PSU will help with the longevity of your build!
I pretty much exclusively buy psu from seasonic or EVGA rated platinum or higher. 1000W and fully modular. These things last me at least 10 years and are as future proof as you can get. If you calculate price per year of use over its lifetime, it’s even the more affordable option.
It sounds like Intel is releasing mid-October. I don’t know if Intel is of interest to you, and these are described as flagship cards. I also have no idea if this will effect prices on other cards or not.
Because I’m on Linux I have no interest in Intel / Nvidia, though Intel can have amazing performance on Linux when they give it the proper firmware updates.
Intel’s previous release was not great, by the way. This does throw doubt in my mind this next one will do anything for you other than potentially reflect in the prices of other products. 🤷♀️
Nice!
I’ve always been an Intel guy. But I have owned two AMD computers over the years. Both of those gave me a very unstable experience.
High performance, but unstable.
My latest pc is a Ryzen 9 3900x computer, and im definitely going back to Intel next time.
My ryzen is very warm (which makes the fans become loud, first time I’ve had to switch to liquid cooling to be able to be in the room) and I’ve had a very unstable experience overall. Had to fiddle with energy settings and stuff to get it running properly.
There has been several new games where I had to wait to even be able to play them due to crashes or inexplainable low performance.
Darktide for example, still crashes for me, while my buddies old Intel pc’s runs it great and no issues. Totally missed out on that game as they are now done with it.
Sorry for rant, but Im quite frustrated with this pc.
No hey this is valuable added input. Sorry you’ve had a rough experience, and I’ll take this as a warning that I will most likely have to learn some new skills in dealing with the issues you’re describing.
Quake that people actually play. Like look at the virality of Battle bits Remastered, the Battlefield with block characters so you can have like 200 people in the match. Games need to feel snappy and run on a lot of low tech machines, and developers are mostly never catering to that budget demographic. FPS games have a huge demand for this. The hundreds of thousands of nerds who can infodump about how incredible the Source engine feels is my proof. So yeah I think there is still a market for competitive movement game 2.0 - a team fortress 3, a titanfall 3, a quake / unreal tournament that runs well and allows community mapping. Like unironically last gens engines followed the wrong upgrade paths and there is still more performance to squeeze out (titanfall 2 using highly customized source and it looking like a AAA game rather than a source game as my proof)
A grading system that does nothing doesn’t bother me. A grading system that unlocks highly desirable, but non-essential stuff will probably get me on my nerves, or get me to cheat. Tenchu on the PS1 had 1 unlockable item for each mission you got a GrandMaster rank
Tenchu, the game that I wished for the checkpoints system the most since PS1. Sneak your way to the boss and get killed? Well, let’s replay the whole mission.
Heyo! Your question led me to check some stuff since my wife wants to upgrade at some point as well.
Since we are slowly moving away from the intel/nvidia/windows ecosphere towards amd/linux/open source, we figured she should go with am5 when she changes her motherboard.
The b650-s and ryzen 5 7600 combined with gskill ripjaws s5 32gig. All together was roughly 500 bucks. The cooler needs to go on top obviously. We already have a gpu but if we needed one I‘d probably go with the amd 7600 since it is fairly new and pretty cheap.
Just so you know, I have put in quite some reaearch on gpus recently but nothing else so I‘m fairly positive about the gpu, a little less certain on the rest. The 7600 is not far from the 6700 xt imo and better in terms of fps per dollar/euro.
The nvidia 3060ti is pretty much the same but I think amd is the better decision going forward since nvidia is being a dick about their drivers forever and amd is more futureproof if you leave windows.
We have shoddy repair places here in the US too, but that’s no reason to make people to hunt for some region-specific community for their hardware questions.
The down votes are because you suggested that Gaming is not the correct community to ask about Gaming hardware, and it’s hardly a barrage. There’s nothing wrong with the advice you’re giving, especially since you seem to have regionally appropriate knowledge that many others don’t have. This is still the appropriate place to ask their question. Likely it’s because, whether you intended for it to be so or not, your opening statement comes across… abrasive.
Much better! Less aggressive. Your initial comment had a sense of reprimanding the OP for not posting in the “right place,” and I’m certain you didn’t mean to come off that way, just that you thought they might get a better, more specific answer from a more specific community, is that right?
I appreciate the civility and willingness to discuss. :)
Current PC is too bad for Cities Skylines 2. Can anyone judge the PCPartPicker list I’ve put together?
Wrong question. The right one would be:
“Based on the PCPartPicker list I’ve put together, how many mods will I be able to add to Cities Skylines 2?”
There is no PC in existence capable of running all of them all at once, but I’d recommend getting as much RAM as possible (256GB better than 32GB), it’s going to be your main bottleneck. Followed by the CPU… and the SSD is only a bottleneck at load time. GPU is optional, CS2 barely uses it.
Also: better to have twice as much RAM, than RAM twice as fast. RAM itself is 100x faster than an SSD, so you’re better off keeping stuff in only 50x faster RAM, rather than going back and forth to a 100x slower SSD.
Still takes like 20 headshots to down someone. It gets a little better mid-late game. It was brutal playing 2.0 before the Headshot damage mod was updated.
However, I noticed that blades seemed a bit buffed. I was able to melee super easy early on.
I think this is largely dependent on build and weapon. I’ve been playing a stealth / throwing character and throwing knives kill almost anyone with a single headshot, as do revolvers. If I try to use an assault rifle, though, I can empty a clip into someone’s face and they’re still standing.
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