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Zahille7, do games w Terraria Hive Base

“The human mind. Six hundred miles of synaptic fiber, five and a half ounces of cranial fluid, fifteen hundred grams of complex neural matter… A three pound pile of dreams. But I’ll tell you what it really is. It is the ultimate battlefield–and, the ultimate weapon. The wars of this modern age–The Psychic Age-- are all fought somewhere between these damp, curvaceous undulations. From this day forward, you are all Psychic Soldiers. Paranormal Paratroopers! Mental Marines who are about to ship out on the adventure of their lives! THIS IS OUR BEACHHEAD. And this is your landing craft! You shall engage the enemy in his own mentality! You shall chase his dreams, you shall fight his demons, you shall live his nightmares! And those of you who fight well, you will find yourselves on the path to becoming international secret agents. In other words… Psychonauts! The rest of you… WILL DIE.”

lime, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

such a strange survey. it was all about “exclusive access” and “extra perks”. i just want to support game fixes so that everyone gets access, but that wasn’t part of it.

alehel,

I mean, if you’re giving them money monthly for a “Preservation Members Tier” then isn’t that exactly what you’d be doing? You’re just getting some perks as well.

lime,
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if that was all then yes, but their suggested perks sounded like they were shutting people off from part of the preservation results.

Cobrachicken,

Well I’m already giving them money threough purchasing (200+) games through their store. I don’t need or want any cloud features or a “badge” for that. If their calculation does not fit giving me what they promised, tough. As an aside, I recently had to contact their support, and it was a good, competent experience. So the folks they have are good and should be supported, but not through a f* subscription, but through the regular earnings. That said, I’m completely happy with the Heroic launcher and rather donate there than to join a gog club.

BeFayeDoCrimes, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option
@BeFayeDoCrimes@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Support Linux and give me Dark Colony (which tons of people have asked for already for years) and I’ll consider subscribing.

atro_city, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option

I wish they worked with opensource projects like Heroic to provide an easy and fast way to run their games on Linux like in Steam. And if they provided a donation option or something to fund that work.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They do that already. They’re partnered with Heroic. If you buy GOG games through Heroic, Heroic gets a cut of that sale using a referral code program like you’d see in other stores. It gives Heroic some cash, and it gives GOG a line of sight into exactly how much revenue they’re missing out on by not building the Linux launcher themselves. This is what got me to start buying from GOG again.

atro_city,

Oh shit, really? Do you have a source for that?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/…/v2.13.0

We also started a partnership with GOG and now every game you buy from the GOG store inside Heroic will give us a commission, so it is another way of supporting the project. :)

The link is also available at heroicgameslauncher.com/donate if you prefer to purchase games in your web browser.

atro_city,

Awesome, thank you!

trevor, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option

Anything but properly supporting the Linux community 🤡

How have they still not learned that the largest intersection of the people that care about their core value proposition (game preservation, DRM-free, etc.) are Linux users?? It’s not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

If they provided a launcher for Linux users, I’d actually buy shit from them. Yes, Heroic Launcher exists, but I’m not paying GOG for the work that the Heroic dev did. I want first-party support.

Korhaka,

Why do you want a launcher? I have a few GoG games and I don’t really feel like a launcher is something I need.

What I do want is games to actually update on GoG at the same time as steam, not over a week later. X4 7.0 came out and it was over a week longer for the GoG version to update, in the end I refunded and bought it on steam instead.

stardust,

Cloud saves, achievements, and tracking hours is something I do like. I have over a 100 GOG games, so individually managing exe files isn’t something I really want to do.

Korhaka,

I backup my own saves, don’t really trust someone elses computer to do as good of a job as I can myself. Wrote a script to automate it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Do you not have to update that script every time you play a new game? Cloud saves are pretty automatic, and regardless of platform, they’ve been pretty reliable too. It also fits that use case that you go to a friend’s place and want to show them something in your save file on a whim.

overload,

Syncthing?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that’s what I use when I need it for GOG saves. But typically, every game puts their save file in a different spot, so you do need to do a one-time setup for each individual game.

Korhaka,

Typing backup “Game” “/path/to/files” is pretty simple though. I wouldn’t complain about cloud saves existing, but I won’t rely on them and absolutely wouldn’t pay for them.

tauren,

That’s great, but maybe we should stop talking about you. People pay for Steam, Netflix and many other services because they don’t want to write scripts. They want something convenient and easy to use. They also want additional functionality. You said how you back up save files, but nothing about achievements, time tracking, friends, screenshots sharing, guides, parties, etc.

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

And you just ignored the rest of the reasons, and to add to those: automatic updates.

rickyrigatoni,

Because there is no linix client some games that use these features do not release their linux version on gog due to their company’s feature parity policies.

metaldream,

You don’t need to manage the exe files. Just install heroic launcher. You can access and install your whole GOG library from there, and you can configure each game with different versions of wine or proton, if you need to. It also integrates with Epic and you can easily add games to Steam as well if needed.

You can even sync the game saves with the GOG cloud, although last time I tried the save sync was a bit clunky.

stardust,

Yeah I’ve used heroic launcher, but a native launcher is still preferred. I like the GOG launcher on windows.

wizardbeard,

I’m fairly sure the update cadence is set by the game dev/publisher, not GoG.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They might have to grease some wheels somehow then. Some kind of incentive structure to make sure they do it.

Cobrachicken,

… and Steam is more important to them than GOG

trevor,

Because I use a Steam Deck and having a launcher for third-party stores is the easiest way to install games.

Additionally, the reasons mentioned in the other comments.

UnfortunateShort,

What if I told you that the intersection between people who care and the 5% of their potential audience that are Linux users is very small either way?

I’m not saying Linux isn’t a chance for them, but it’s also an investment and very like not a profitable one for quite a while.

alehel,

I’d love a gog galaxy client for Linux with proton support. I also agree though, that it probably wouldn’t help them become more profitable.

Creat,

You do know Heroic exists, right? It works perfectly fine.

And I prefer an open source solution integrating multiple platforms to a single closed solution per platform.

codexarcanum,

What if I told you that there are roughly 4 million steamdecks in existence. Ref

And that this is about 1\3 of the Steam Linux market. Ref and about half of the entire handheld PC market. Ref

Of course, we dont know how many MAU GOG has so maybe 4 million new customers is baby numbers, but Steam seems enamored enough of that market segment to commit huge new UI and store features (deck verification, “Runs on Deck” filters, other deck specific stuff) including the game controller mappings which do help with non-deck also but were clearly a necessary element for handhelds. Maybe deck users, it being a committed gaming platform, spend more on games?

Anyway, trying to get subscribers (always a teeny fraction of your free users) ahead of converting new non-customers into customers, seems like bad econ to me.

If GOG is so hot for game preservation why not see if they can score an emulation deal to bring lost handheld titles to PC\deck? Sega might be down, NeoGeo is owned by the Saudi’s, I’m sure they’d love some free money for their back catalog. That’s in line with Lutris’ mission of being the one game launcher for your entire library. A few strategic investments and partnerships could open up GOG as the gateway to classic gaming across devices, but that would require some vision to carry through.

UnfortunateShort,

1/3 of the Steam + Linux market, that accounted for an incredible 1.45% of Steam installs in February. This means there were roughly 67 Windows gamers for every Linux gamer (using Steam) that month.

So even if Linux gamers are 10 times more likely to care (and pay for) for game preservation, you are not even approaching the number of Windows users that might. Suppose 90% of Linux gamers care, while only 9% on Windows do, you still have roughly 9 Windows users for every Linux one. And this is a very generous assumption to make.

Maybe, eventually, at some point, this makes sense financially. But if your goal is to be profitable, you grab the low hanging fruits first, not invest in maybe 10% more potential users.

Ashtear,

Steam’s investment in UI and store features are part of the onus of hardware platform growth. Steam isn’t just a storefront anymore. GOG has no such interest.

I do think indicators are good for the future of Linux gaming, but it’s just not good business right now to go chasing it.

flamingos,

At this point they should just hire the Heroic devs, I doubt anything they could build themselves would compare in terms of quality.

trevor,

I’d be happy if they did and adopted Heroic as an official launcher. However, if that happens, I’d still want proper controller support to be added so that browsing the GOG store in Heroic doesn’t require mouse and keyboard bindings on something like a Steam Deck.

kuberoot,

It’s not like they have to create the compatibility layers from scratch; Valve did it for them.

I do just want to point out, Valve didn’t do that - Proton is mostly just pre-existing software that they packaged together into an officially supported feature. I love that they did it, and having it in the biggest PC game platform presumably did wonders for Linux gaming, but it was most certainly not made from scratch.

GiuEliNo,
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I agree with you for the most part, but valve also is funding the developers behind the most important things out of proton. DXVK and vkd3d-proton were almost non-existent before Valve employed them.

Cobrachicken, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option

What a nigjtmare.

ampersandrew, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I got the same survey. The ones that they definitely do not want to do, if they value their reputation, are things like “increased cloud save storage (that’s still probably less than what Steam offers)” and things that they took away, like 1.0 installers. But some of the other options look to be more squarely aimed at the enthusiasts of the preservation program that this subscription is designed to financially support, as well as one or two actually good features like legal account sharing. Hopefully they go down that route instead.

MudMan, (edited )

It's on par with Steam, I think. You get like 200 megs per product. I know because my Witcher 3 install is above that and it's annoying. That wouldn't be a dealbreaker as a subscription benefit, I don't think.

With the rest I do agree.

I can tell they're struggling and have been for a while. It isn't easy to compete with Steam, and the thing that would have done it (having DRM'd new games in the service) was voted down in a similar survey some time ago.

I would not be against some Patreon-like crowdsourced solution for behind the scenes stuff and prioritization rights. GOG, or something like it MUST exist. Steam is bad enough with their current dominant position, it can't be the sole remaining option in this market.

I would much prefer to be able to give them more money in exchange for more games, though. I am constantly frustrated by how often some indie game is only available on Steam, and I've started buying things full price on GOG but waiting for sales on Steam as a matter of policy.

Sorse,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s on par with Steam, I think.

IIRC Steam lets developers code how much storage to use, with a 5GB cap per game

MudMan,

Is that where it is now? I haven't looked at the documentation in an age. I think most stay lower because ultimately cloud storage is a cross-platform concern and different first parties have different requirements. Plus you want to keep it under control anyway. At any rate it's not a huge concern and other services like PSN or Nintendo Online already charge for it, so... not a dealbreaker as long as the base implementation stays free.

PP_BOY_, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option

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Kyle_The_G, do games w Day 257 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Is this game fun? I’ve got ubisoft fatigue, is it just more of the same old stuff? I still think I’ll pick this up a year or so from now when its on sale for $40 or something.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a bit of the same, it returns a lot closer to the older AC Games though. For example, a lot of the mythology aspect is removed, and the side quests are a lot closer to the older Assassination Missions. It still uses the framework from the RPG games though (though it’s been heavily simplified from the tree that Valhalla had)

AceFuzzLord, do gaming w What game do you really want to play, but haven't yet because you feel it in your soul that it will get a remake/remaster soon enough?

I thought I heard rumblings on Xitter about Sega putting out a post showing Sonic Unleashed recently due to the Unleashed Recompilation project recently released, but I can’t confirm because I refuse to go there.I wasn’t able to find any posts about it on their BlueSky Sega West account, so I have no idea whether it’s true or not.

If it is true they might be thinking about making an official PC port, I might just hold off on starting over in the unofficial PC port and just stick with my save on xbox360… at least until news comes out that they’re going to somehow have ruined it due to evil DRM and some sort of microtransaction shop that allows you to play as Sonic, but get this! With green shoes instead of red! That, and the price being a full $60-70, if not $100 dollar game for a decade plus old game, with the caveat that the Recompilation project be shut down because it hurts their profits.

brsrklf, do gaming w What game do you really want to play, but haven't yet because you feel it in your soul that it will get a remake/remaster soon enough?

I’ve never hold up a first play because of a potential remaster, especially not if it was not announced.

I have hold up a few replays when rumours of a remake are floating around though (like I did with Skyward Sword). I stopped a halfway through replay of Xenoblade Chronicles when they announced Definitive Edition. With how long XC games get if you try to do everything… Yeah.

Cris16228, do games w Terraria Hive Base

Any tips for someone noob like me? Always wanted to play it but I don’t exactly know where to start

TastehWaffleZ,

Keep the wiki open, explore the surface for cave entrances and look for pots/chests, the game completely changes once you get a grappling hook.

Breezy,

Naw go in blind, its pretty simple in the start. Of course you’ll need the wiki later when you’re trying to figure out what to do, but getting to hell and letting a demon drop its stuff right into the lava is a blast the first time when you have no idea whats coming.

After beating the game 4 times it all becomes second nature what to do. But the journey to get there is so much fun when you’re first starting.

TastehWaffleZ,

To each their own, I hated playing without knowing the crafting recipes and always loved looking up what I can make with everything I picked up.

porotoman99,

You don’t need the wiki for that though, you can ask the guide what you can make out of anything.

TastehWaffleZ,

When I started playing, the guide was completely useless. He would also open your doors and leave them open, I very quickly grew to despise the guide and made his home a prison.

simple,

I disagree, the start is the most obtuse part about Terraria. It’s not clear what you should be doing, where you should be going, how to build valid housing for NPCs, etc.

I started blind waaay back when it first released and hated it, then went back to it with a guide and had way more fun. There is NO way someone will figure out without guidance that you’re supposed to go down the holes in the corruption , TNT rocks, then smash orbs with a hammer to summon the 2nd boss.

Once you get into hard mode you can figure things out yourself , but at the start you either need to play with a friend that knows what’s up or follow a guide so you don’t suffer.

Cris16228,

Like someone else said, I prefer to go blind and not check the wiki if possible! I was looking for tips or stuff to do/don’t

Thank you!

hazeebabee,

Talk to the guide (starting npc) for tips on what to do next, you can also give him things you find and he’ll tell you what you can craft with them. He’s like the in game wiki and can be very helpful. Also spend lots of time just exploring, and don’t be afrid to die.

When exploring make sure to collect any metals you see, and use them to building upgraded pickaxe and armor. Also build extra houses so you can have lots of npcs move in. I hope you have fun & definetly look things up online if you have questions :)

daggermoon, do gaming w Actually my first walking simulator - The Town of Light (2016) review

I got this game for free on GOG. I’m more stoked to play it now. It sounds both depressing and thought-provoking. That’s my bread and butter where games are concerned. Love your review.

Legendsofanus,
@Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml avatar

I got it for free too! It’s my first Prime-giveaway and the first game on GOG I have ever finished. I really wanted to try the Bioshock-inspired Close to the Sun but that game was just too heavy for my system

SchwertImStein, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of March 30th

I’ve finished No Nine Sols and Islets, now staring Unbound: Worlds apart, next in queue is Tunic and Spelunky.

NNS is a really great souls-like metroidvania.

Islets is on the other hand totally chill one.

_Lory98_, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of March 30th

Randomly trying games on my phone, I downloaded Infinity Nikki and I’ve been hooked for the past few days.

I like the customization, especially when compared to the more limited one in FFXIV, although I wish it had dyeing (and more jackets). Compared to other gacha games, I like how “the grind” is more focused on crafting clothing instead of just leveling up, although resources (and by that I mean the timed energy) feel a bit too scarce.

Screenshot from Infinity Nikki of the titular Nikki wearing a pink dress with a black jacket.


I finally finished Trails of Cold Steel II, or more accurately I watched the final story cutscenes because I gave up towards the end of the final dungeon (Which I’m glad I did because it otherwise would have been a waste of time).

The duology was really bad, I don’t think there’s anything positive I can say about it, other than that it’s finally over (hopefully III is actually better as I’ve heard). I’ve already complained about the characters in previous, so I’ll now complain about the rest.

rant + various potential spoilers up to and including CS2The overall story felt pointless, at best it added nothing to what was already established, at worse it made the civil war feel like a joke. I think it would have been better to just skip to the end as what was mentioned in Azure felt bigger than what actually happened in CS. The writing is childish and really doesn’t fit the setting it’s trying to build. The supposed war doesn’t feel like an actual conflict. This was an issue with the previous games too, but this time it feels like it’s done to a ridiculous amount: the bosses either escape because the were “holding back” or a more powerful ally comes in and solves the situation. The game doesn’t want to remove anyone from the story, so everyone just leaves every fight and no one ever dies (I’m pretty sure there are 3 deaths in the whole war, and one of them I’m sure is another fakeout). I don’t find Ourobororos that interesting of an enemy, their motivations are too vague and I find the current active enforcers boring characters. Crow feels like a waste of a character. He’s the only one I feel had any potential, but he has barely any screentime (in both games) and the way Class VII is obsessed with him feels really weird and unmotivated.

Overall I think the two games were bad in the worst way possible: they were a boring waste of time.

Poopfeast420,
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If you didn’t like the story in Cold Steel so far, I don’t think the next game probably isn’t going to change you mind. I think it actually gets even worse.

Azure and Zero are definitely my favorite games of the series, since they just don’t have anything to do with the rest of the story, until the very end.

_Lory98_,

I’ll probably wait a bit to play III, but I’ve heard it’s alright from people who hate I and II. Although I’ve also heard that IV is not good.

Azure and Zero are definitely the best ones, I really liked FC and SC, although they do have some problems (the first half of SC is pretty bad, and the same problem with ouroboros I mentioned before) and I think 3rd has an interesting story, but bad gameplay and pacing.

Poopfeast420, (edited )
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So, I think most of the Trails games are garbage, but since I played them like five years ago over two months, up to CS3. Now I feel obligated to play the rest as well. Hate-playing or something.

Since there’s been a bunch of new games released since then, I might have to do another one of these “marathons.”

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