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chronicledmonocle, do games w this level is amazing

Which Batman game is this from?

Rokin,

Arkham Asylum

Rokin, do games w this level is amazing

The whole game is amazing, but yes, I agree.

Flamekebab, do games w this level is amazing
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

I think the thing I miss most about this game is how much it did with hardware from 2005. It looked great, played well, had a decent length but also didn’t outstay its welcome.

I’ve played through it at least twice. I doubt I’ll ever replay City or Knight as they were amazing but far far too long.

jacksilver,

I liked Arkham City, it felt more like the game they initially wanted to make. Batmans movement is a bit smoother, you get some fun gliding elements, and it opens up the map so there is a bit more of an exploration/investigation element.

I think Arkham Knight might have gone too large, and I feel like the batmobile sections felt too tank like.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

They’re definitely fun and I enjoyed them but knowing how long they are I wouldn’t start them again. I had a similar thing with GTA IV!

Digit, do gaming w What game changed your life?
@Digit@lemmy.wtf avatar

Frontier: First Encounters (Elite3), (and Pioneer Space Sim (still playing)). – Found my safe space via such game. I go out into space, for my safe space. Life changing.

Soul Calibur. – I discovered it’s like chess, and there are depths to excellence. And, I don’t know how causal/influenced by it that I ended up basically looking like my fave character from it. LOL. Deep metaphors and synchronicities in it too. Life changing.

Diablo 2: Lord Of Destruction. – Ate up a huge chunk of my life. [Eventually] Learned the empty dopamine addiction hole’s to be avoided. Basically the game that stopped me being “a gamer” (as if I ever really were ~ was just a diablo2 addict). Found hanging out in the arcane sanctuary, the atmosphere, helped me sleep. n_n Life changing.

Minetest (now called “Luanti”). – Designed my house in it. LOL. Life changing.

mere, do gaming w What game changed your life?

I don’t know if it changed my life, but my god it was cathartic - Celeste. I’ve cried while listening to the soundtrack and I’ve cried while playing it. Like, actual sobbing. Having a positively-represented trans character in media, especially in a game as popular and highly-rated as Celeste, means so much to me.

WFloyd, do games w Life imitates art

As funny as this is, it’s also a very common logo, being a varient of the Penrose Triangle. Honestly more shocked they didn’t spring for some better graphics…

MagnyusG,

it would actually be funny if they bought Ubisoft, because they’re the ones that make the Assassin’s Creed games, not EA.

P1nkman,

In the next game, they’ll shift the story so Abstergo to becomes the good guys, destroying the entire backstory from so previous games.

And it’ll be written by AI, including the dialog being AI generated. I hope it fucking tanks.

Cocodapuf,

I mean, as it’s made by ubisoft, it would be pretty funny if they leaned heavily into the evil Abstergo storyline as a dig at EA.

big_slap, do games w this level is amazing

this is one of the best video games ever made.

OmegaMan, do games w this level is amazing

This game did blow my mind as well at this part. It was such a departure from the rest of the game.

calliope,

It’s one of my favorite sequences from any game!

Quetzalcutlass, (edited ) do games w Life imitates art

fictional Templar-run evil Assassin’s Creed gaming company Abstergo Entertainment

Did anyone else get a headache trying to parse this run-on description?

Cocodapuf,

I would have struggled if I hadn’t gleaned the premise instantly as soon as I saw the logo.

baines, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced

lmao imagine giving MA money in 2025

LuckingFurker,

I mean, I’ll give them some money to activate developer mode so I can install emulators on my Xbox. I don’t need emulators on my Xbox but it’s gonna sit there doing nothing otherwise because I’m not paying for Gamepass

SpaceNoodle,

Why? It doesn’t cost them anything to flip that bit on hardware that you own.

LuckingFurker,

If there’s a way to activate dev mode without paying them I don’t know about it

SpaceNoodle,

Sorry, my comment wasn’t clear. I’m just saying that it’s total bullshit that they would charge for that.

LuckingFurker,

I’m in full agreement there, but at least it’s a small one-off payment to just use it the way I want to rather than playing cat-and-mouse with hacks and software updates

mnemonicmonkeys,

Huh? Just get an old Dell optiplex tower on Ebay or Craigslist and install Batocera on it. It’d probably cost a similar amount

eatCasserole,

I kinda wish I had a gamepass subscription so I could enjoy cancelling it, but alas, I’ve already cancelled everything.

MentalEdge, (edited ) do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Oh that is gonna piss people off.

Your ads are not gonna work the way you think they’ll work, when every person who sees them is gonna feel like it’s a middle finger.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Your ads are not gonna work the way you think they’ll work

They’re banking on people too young/old to know how to navigate past the screen to accidentally sign up for shit.

My one-year-old son accidentally got ahold of my TV remote and signed me back up for Netflix by pushing random buttons a month ago. Had to go through the TV and scour it of all the little pre-installed buy-me apps to make sure that couldn’t happen as easily again. Still not quite sure how to disable the “Netflix” button that’s built into the remote, shy of carving it out with a knife.

waterSticksToMyBalls,

You might be able to open the remote and put a sticker over the netflix buttons contacts on the pcb

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a good idea. I’ll see if I can make it work.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yes. And that shit is a one-way door.

Every customer you piss off the way you are pissed off, is A LOT less likely to be a return customer.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Sure. But a lot of the marketing is geared towards younger people unfamiliar with the service. I remember getting deluged with ads my freshman year of high school and again my freshman year of college, for instance.

They’re banking on their unsubscribe process being so obnoxious that they’ll lose fewer people than they gain, year to year. And given the steady growth of revenues for these programs, it appears to work over the long term.

Yeah, you’re pissing people off. But when everyone operates this way, it just becomes the standard for accessing this form of entertainment. Like ad reels before a movie starts. “Well, I just won’t go to the movies!” is a hollow protest in the midst of the crowds of people fighting to get into the theater.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ok?

It’s not sustainable. Tricking people faster than they wise up to your BS is not a business model that leads to a healthy, content, customer base. And if it’s what EVERYONE does, you get an unhappy SOCIETY.

No-one will enjoy where that leads, and is already leading.

It’s a ratcheting mechanism. Unless something about capitalism changes SIGNIFICANTLY the masses will simply grow more and more discontent.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not sustainable.

In the same way that slot machines and roulette wheels aren’t sustainable, sure. Once you figure out they’re a scam, you stop playing them.

But you don’t need to trick all the people all the time. You just need to trick enough people to turn a steady profit. Firms like Microsoft and EA have figured out a formula that’s worked for a long time and now they’re just running the playbook. Like any good bookie in Vegas, they make money off the suckers. And they reinvest a sizeable chunk of their profits into marketing to bring in new marks. And there’s always new marks.

No-one will enjoy where that leads

There will be a dozen senior executives in a VIP lounge absolutely enjoying where this goes in another five or ten years.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

And there’s always new marks.

If your market is small enough.

You bring up gambling. Its de-regulation and consequent proliferation via online casinos has made the problems it causes more likely to be addressed than ever.

The bigger your market grows, the more aware the cultural zeitgeist becomes, the more likely you are be ousted entirely.

A bookie in Vegas, one city, could keep running their casino forever, because there didn’t use to be a casino in every persons pocket, worldwide, that might’ve already taught every new mark to be wary.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The bigger your market grows, the more aware the cultural zeitgeist becomes

You’d like to think so. But look at Robinhood. Five years ago, everyone was screaming about how it was a rigged game. Citadel Investments was manipulating the options markets. Fidelity was getting insider deals. Everything was rigged. People needed to protest. Close out your account. Yadda yadda yadda.

What happened after that? As far as I can tell, Robinhood is more popular than ever. They’re certainly more profitable than ever. There was never any reform or regulation. Mostly, Reddit and similar big name social media firms just purged all the whinners and inflated the profiles of the shills and hacks.

A bookie in Vegas, one city, could keep running their casino forever

DraftKings has been making money hand over fist. They’re desperately trying to find new things for people to bet on. This isn’t one bookie in one city, it’s an international conglomerate that’s expanded its market share around the globe. It is a worldwide bookie.

No shortage of marks. They all keep coming back.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Why are trying to convince me my omptimism is futile?

What good does that do?

You’re not wrong.

But all I’m doing here is saying “things can get better” and your replies are just you pointing out how bad things are right now, as if that proves the only way things can go, is to get worse.

The worse things get, the faster the number of people wanting to fix it will grow.

Am I wrong?

They’re desperately trying to find new things for people to bet on.

No shortage of marks you say?

mnemonicmonkeys,

Why are trying to convince me my omptimism is futile?

Because they’re miserable and they want everyone to be miserable too

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Why are trying to convince me my omptimism is futile?

Because optimism without realism is just a recipe for cynicism later on. The problem of systemic gambling won’t just fix itself.

The worse things get, the faster the number of people wanting to fix it will grow.

Advertising and other propaganda creates a great deal of countervailing pressure.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Because optimism without realism is just a recipe for cynicism later on.

Dude. I’m not on my way to cynicism. I’m past it.

If I didn’t believe change is possible, then I’d be part of the reason it isn’t happening.

Looking for, and pushing in the places it might occur, is how you help it come about.

How is that not realistic? What am I missing?

Does the way you argue, not contribute to maintaining the status quo, even as you agree that it is not desirable?

The problem of systemic gambling won’t just fix itself.

Did I say it would?

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Remember when gamers found out Suicide Squad, which at one time did have real hype behind it, would be live service BS?

And people literally just didn’t play it.

People. Even entire demigraphics, can a do learn.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly don’t. Was never a SS head.

But I’ll take your word for it

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Well yeah. It was being developed by Rocksteady, beloved for the Arkham games.

But interest, despite the marketing, dropped off a cliff the second people smelled live service elements.

The game came out a died a quick death even more quietly than Concord.

artyom,

It will work. Even if they get 10 new subscribers, it probably took them 20 minutes to whip up this splash screen. They’re wasting much more of your time. And people have proven time and time again that they will get outraged but they’ll never actually do anything about it. They won’t stop playing Xbox. They won’t stop buying games. People grow increasingly accepting of advertising and invasive business practices every day. Remember how angry everyone was at horse armor? Most people wouldn’t think twice about it these days. It’s so much worse now.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It will work. Even if they get 10 new subscribers, it probably took them 20 minutes to whip up this splash screen. They’re wasting much more of your time. And people have proven time and time again that they will get outraged but they’ll never actually do anything about it.

For now. But eventually they do. That’s how entire governments have fallen time and time again.

They won’t stop playing Xbox. They won’t stop buying games. People grow increasingly accepting of advertising and invasive business practices every day.

Indeed. People can get used to a lot. But being used to something isn’t the same as being ok with it. No-one I know is ok with there being ads on their tvs, phones and laptops. Living with something isn’t the same as accepting it. People are tolerating more BS than ever, but that doesn’t mean they wont rally the second there’s a way out of it.

Remember how angry everyone was at horse armor? Most people wouldn’t think twice about it these days. It’s so much worse now.

I still am. So are many others. Remember when people thought NMS would be a good game on day one? Remember when Fallout 76 was going to be bigger and better than 4? Remember Concord? Remember when Overwatch was going to have a story?

Suicide Squad.

There was real hype. The second people found out it was a live service, they simply didn’t play.

Every fuckup, is another portion of the masses getting the memo. And the fuckups aren’t stopping. If anything there’s more of them than ever.

These corporations used to be afraid of looking bad, but mistakes happen. Except when they did, and stocks didn’t suddenly implode, their takeaway was they could be horrible, and still make a profit. Because yeah, most people don’t learn the first time. But what about the second? Or the third? Or the tenth?

If you ask me, given time, the one thing every person on this planet can do, is learn. Eventually.

The only reason Roblox and Fortnite keep growing is that there are markets they haven’t penetrated. Finding new customers faster than the old ones leave doesn’t work forever. There are only so many humans on this planet.

Meanwhile, indie games with actual passion behind them and fair business practices that still feed the mouths of the devs, without private equity firms in the middle sucking up all the value, are absolutely exploding.

XBOX is dying. MS won’t say it, but they are less involved in the game-industry than ever. This price hike is a death-throw. Not the next step in their master plan to dominate the market forever.

IMO, the only gaming mega-corporation with the goodwill to exist 20 years from now is Nintendo, and even they are burning through the nostalgia people have for them faster than ever before in their insanely long history.

artyom,

But being used to something isn’t the same as being ok with it

Doesn’t matter if they’re okay with it or not, as long as they tolerate it and don’t do anything about it.

I still am. So are many others.

Sure but many many more have accepted it. Otherwise they never would have done it again.

Remember Concord?

Concord clearly had much bigger problems.

Remember when Overwatch was going to have a story?

I remember Overwatch still being a wild success regardless.

But what about the second? Or the third? Or the tenth?

We are on like 2905295734th now.

Meanwhile, indie games with actual passion behind them

Indie game studios could only ever dream of achieving the heights of revenue of games like Fortnite, that survives entirely on microtransactions.

the only gaming mega-corporation with the goodwill to exist 20 years from now is Nintendo

They are doing everything they can to screw their own customers and yet they pile in by the millions every time they have something new.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Doesn’t matter if they’re okay with it or not, as long as they tolerate it and don’t do anything about it.

Not being happy about it is the first step on the road to doing something about it. How does that not matter?

Sure but many many more have accepted it. Otherwise they never would have done it again.

Who is doing it again? I’m not.

I remember Overwatch still being a wild success regardless.

Is it?

We are on like 2905295734th now.

And? It takes as many times as it takes.

Indie game studios could only ever dream of achieving the heights of revenue of games like Fortnite, that survives entirely on microtransactions.

Why? There are absolutely indies who’ve made millions. Why is there zero chance that one day, the next Fortnite or Roblox comes from an indie?

It already happened at least once. Minecraft.

They are doing everything they can to screw their own customers and yet they pile in by the millions every time they have something new.

Yes. But again. It takes as many times as it takes.

artyom,

You continue to view everything through your personal lens while turning a blind eye to the mountains of other people who don’t care. There are no amount of times before people will walk away en masse. That much is abundantly clear at this point.

MentalEdge,
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while turning a blind eye to the mountains of other people who don’t care

People, fundamentally, care.

That’s like the whole point of having a hobby.

No-one games because they don’t care.

You won’t find anything people are more passionate about, than something they do for fun.

I’m not claiming that there’s some point where people magically come together and stick it to the megacorps.

I’m saying that if you consistently burn your fans in ways that result in them hating you, eventually, you wont have any.

That’s not something that happens overnight. A slow-ass process that leads to a gradual decline, which you can only put off by duping brand new people who haven’t sworn off ever purchasing your product again. But eventually, you run out of those, too.

NavySqueal, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced
@NavySqueal@lemmy.world avatar

Extremely scummy to not even list the price, but I shouldn’t be surprised since it appears they are going to milk whoever still has autosub on for an extra 10 bucks.

lilja, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced
@lilja@lemmy.ml avatar

Companies using “Got It” to dismiss their invasive popups makes me so irrationally angry.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

And I definitely didn’t “get it”, either. I buttoned through as fast as possible so I could use what I wanted to use.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I’m personally a big fan of doing the very tiny semi-transparent (X) that’s impossible to click on as far away from the “Yes, Please Digitally Fuck My Wallet Pussy” blinking blue bar at bottom center of the screen.

breakingcups,

I hate “Maybe later” even more

Rooster326,

They are all maybe later. Regardless of the wording…

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Where’s the “Fuck off” option??

MisterCurtis,

I’ve had to put “I don’t like deals” in a popup close button before. I hated working in web marketing.

Fiivemacs,

well I don’t… it’s never a deal, and I’m usually forced to buy more and spend more in order to get that ‘deal’

Quetzalcutlass,

Keepass2Android shows a pop-up each October asking for donations. Perfectly fine, but the dismiss button is labeled “I don’t like the app that much”. Even free software isn’t spared that sort of thing.

(The pop-up also breaks the fingerprint reader prompt for extra annoyance)

Funwayguy,
@Funwayguy@lemmy.world avatar

I switched to KeePassDX for this reason among others.

CaptainBasculin,

App -> Display -> Never ever ask for a donation

scrubbles, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced
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You got a love how out of touch these marketers are. They really do think that they understand gamers while sitting in meetings at the Redmond campus.

Oh we had mass cancellations yesterday! War room, what do we do?

Full page ad?

Brilliant! Gamers will obviously see the value and be grateful for it. Maybe now we won’t all be laid off by papa Satya

West_of_West, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced

I’m a pessimist. The price increase won’t hurt them unless they lose more than 33% of the user base. Which is a big number of people choosing to change a habit/lifestyle.

Even if they do lose that amount, they could walk back the 50% and wait a few months and “only” increase it by 20%. People will feel good that they owned the big corpo and the big corpo still manages to increase profit.

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