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Klear, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

While Skyrim probably has the same issues you ran into with Fallout/other TES games, it’s quite viable to roleplay the game without doing the main quest without the game feeling empty.

I did one “playthrough” as an Orc blacksmith, with the goal being maxing out the smithing skill and crafting a dragonbone armour to present to a chieftan of one of the orc strongholds in order to join. I started out hunting deer and making leather stuff to gen enough money for food and board, working my way up, eventually venturing into dwemer ruins to gather metal. I did a handful of quests if they felt doable for a non-heroic regular dude and ran if I got into too much danger.

Strict pacifism wasn’t my goal, I was just playing as a non-heroic normal person, but I’m sure you could do something similar. You just need to abandon the main quest and set your own goal.

MojoMcJojo,

I once modded Skyrim to make hunger, thirst, sleep, wounds, infections, and weather as realistic as possible. Then, from nothing, set out to go dungeon diving. My guy had heard there were untold riches, and being dirt poor, it was going to be his ticket out of squalor. The amount of preperation that was needed took days. I had to build a small camp outside the entrance, catch kill and prepare foods that wouldn’t spoil. Make water skins to store enough water. I may be down there for weeks! Finally ready to go in, I have no idea what to expect, only rumors. It’s very dark (mod), but I made torches. Surprise Frost Troll. Dead. Bethesda update corrupted my modded save, but that’s ok, just another death of no one special in the frozen lands.

Klear,

I need to reinstall the VR version and do a run like that.

Sunsofold,

I did something similar, but also had mods to change player model and starting scenario, and unscale combat from your level. I started as a young girl who just lucked out of magical enthrallment by a necromancer and aged her a year every time she went up a level. I started in the middle of nowhere with a stolen kitchen knife, some slaves’ rags, the now-dull ring that had once held her in thrall, and no one to help.

It really turned the game grim: little girl stumbles into town, nigh dead from no food and crab attacks in the wilderness, looking for help, and the locals offer to put her to work. But, by the time I’m at level 20, she’s in her 30s, has plenty of food, rich furs, fire magic, and a heartful of revenge plans to keep her warm, and has acquired a circlet that made her fire even hotter. The eventual plan was to complete her schooling and then go on a necromancer roasting hunt, but the game broke. Fun little run. Could almost make a book of it.

sugar_in_your_tea, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

Most games require killing the end boss to finish the game, how exactly would you play around that? Or do you mean don’t kill anyone who doesn’t try to kill you?

kurcatovium,
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I believe you can persuade boss of Arcanum (amazing game) to commit suicide.

andros_rex, (edited )

Ideally, games where you kill nobody at all. Even avoiding killing creatures for a “true pacifist” run.

I’m just going to spoil a bunch of things, because why markdown?

There’s quite a few games where you have alternatives when it comes to main bosses - in the original Fallout ::: you can talk the Master into suicide by proving that the supermutants are infertile :::

in Planescape Torment there are multiple ways of ::: convincing your mortality to merge back with you :::,

New Vegas lets you talk down

:::Legate Lanius, at least on the NCR route:::

Jade Empire will give you a bad ending

:::where you surrender to the Glorious Strategist in exchanged for being fêted as a hero:::

even Fallout 3 will let you

:::talk Colonel Autumn into surrender for like no reason at all:::.

I’d really like that to expand into video games having killing “mooks”/generic enemies be more of an action with consequences. Undertale does a good job of that -

:::if you kill any monsters, even if you spare all bosses, the ending still mentions that there are some hard feelings towards you.:::

Spec Ops has no “pacifist option” but also makes you realize that

:::you were slaughtering American soldiers and innocent civilians because you were going insane:::.

The default problem solving strategy in most games seems to be violence, and that breaks my immersion. The last time I was in a physical confrontation with anyone was fighting my sister in high school - I’ve certainly never killed anyone.

sugar_in_your_tea,

All those games you listed are violence centric, so I imagine the non-violent route isn’t as satisfying. I tried to finish Dishonored (not really an RPG) without violence, but most of abilities involve violence and getting caught just meant waiting for them to kill me instead of fighting back. The gameplay just isn’t optimized for it like something like Thief is.

There are games designed for non-violence where violence simply isn’t an option, such as Disco Elysium or WanderHome. Searching specifically for games without violence is probably a better option than finding games where nonviolence is an option, unless you’re specifically looking to find clever ways to play games non-traditionally.

Nibodhika,

Spec Ops has no “pacifist option”

I mean, the whole point of the game is that you could have not killed anyone, you could have stopped playing, you choose to keep playing, you choose to kill all those NPCs, the game never forced you, turning off the game was always an option.

SonOfAntenora, do games w Which of theses games should i play?

Luanti is good for the user made games. So many of them, there’s one decent backrooms game too, I know there are rare finds.

But, minecraft is unkillable and unreplacable. I play with a tombstone and a minimap addon. I also have a herobrine mod that isn’t from the fog, and apparently herobrine likes to charge creepers so the early game was difficult.

There is an lotr game for luanti you should check it.

Luanti has a questionable menuing is awful. Survival craft has a better system and that’s one game you completely forgot. I personally like it but it’s mostly actual survival, like hunting and trying not to die to feral beasts. The night in survival craft is terrifying.

But vintage story is where you want to be. It’s gaining momentum.

If you want to play old minecraft either try multimc or betacraft launcher, that version of the game is also unique.

makeshiftreaper, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

Technically speaking Far Cry 5 meets this definition. At the beginning of the game the big bad guy arrests you and says to wait while he brings you the person you’re trying to save. If you sit there for 10 minutes doing nothing he returns with the person and lets both of you go. Most people just start murdering instead

melmi,
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I think you’re mixing multiple endings. Far Cry 4-6 all have quick endings like that but none of them I know of fit your description?

makeshiftreaper,

You’re correct, I had mixed up several of them in my memory. I think 6 is what I was thinking of where you can say “fuck your civil war, I’m out”

slimerancher, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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It has been so long since I played it, I don’t even remember who David was 😀

Well, I’ll just watch the TV show.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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TV show is definitely next up on my list after i pick up Part 2

slimerancher,
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Yeah, I am wondering if I should play the second one first, or watch the first season of show first.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I’m planning to play the 2nd one first, but i’m not really sure there’s a right way to do it i suppose

slimerancher,
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Yeah, I’ll check with my friends who have already played it before I decide anything. If I went for the sequel first, will just watch a recap or let’s play of the first game on YT for a reminder.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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Recap is Definitely the best way to do it imo. I feel like the game is surprisingly short, but still can take a decent chunk of time

slimerancher,
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Stealth games can be like that, you can spend long time during those stealth sections, but nothing actually happens there.

missingno, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?
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Live a Live's Twilight of Edo Japan chapter gives a special completion reward if you complete it with zero kills, or a full 100 kills. It's designed in such a way that figuring out how to do the pacifist run is a puzzle you are unlikely to solve on your first playthrough.

This mechanic was actually one of the inspirations for Undertale!

nore,

As far as I know this mechanic wasn’t in the original SNES game, only in the remake.

missingno,
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It is in the original. For the most part, 2022 is very faithful to the original and doesn't feature any big structural changes (apart from one new thing that's a big spoiler), mostly just balance and quality of life improvements.

Like I said, Toby Fox openly cited this segment as an inspiration for Undertale (2015), and that came before the 2022 remake.

ordinarylove, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

I think the Of Loathing games can be pacifist

Nibodhika, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

There are lots of games where combat is not even an option, like Life is Strange, Before your eyes (do play this one with a camera and a box of tissues nearby), or Firewatch. But games where you’re expected to fight but can find ways around it the first example that comes to mind is Metal Gear Solid 3, you can beat that game without killing anyone, there’s even an achievement for that and one of the bosses will be particularly easy if you go this route.

hperrin, do games w Which of theses games should i play?

Minecraft is substantially farther along in terms of gameplay, mechanics, details, etc. than Luanti. You will probably have more fun playing Minecraft.

That being said, Luanti is free and also pretty fun.

So my advice is if you only want to play one, play Minecraft. But if you want to, play both.

GrantUsEyes, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Is this the remake/ remastered version? Insane how good the landscape looks!

MyNameIsAtticus,
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It is the remake! It does look really good. I haven’t played the PS3 original but judging but Naughty Dog’s similar output for the time i wouldn’t at all be surprised if it look stellar too

somerandomperson, do games w Bethesda Game Studios/Todd Howard statement on the passing of Julian Lefay

o7

danciestlobster, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?

Disco Elysium can totally be pacifist

Abraxas, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

omfg i fucking love TLOU, i completed it last month for the first time and it’s become one of my all time favourite video games, it’s a fucking masterpiece.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I just completed it today, and i’m planning to go back and complete left behind tomorrow. I’m also thinking about trying to 100% it since it’s not too much of a challenge and it’s got some unique criteria i’d love to try and do. I’m not ready to let this game go lol

acosmichippo, do games w 'When' this comes out, my life will be complete, lol.
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what is “ultimate” about it? it never got any DLC did it?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Comes with some extra single player shit including an exclusive mission or something

If you have a PC just play it on there if you can.

who, do games w Day 375 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

This game took mediocre gameplay on rails, and through a great storyline and acting, created something outstanding. I wish I could play it for the first time again. The sequel doesn’t even come close, IMHO.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I’m a sucker for the Game play, but i can definitely see how it can be considered mediocre. You are right though, the story line and acting are really were the game shines

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