I genuinely believe people will look back at this moment and wonder what Nintendo could have done if they weren’t too limited in their vision to understand the opportunity they are throwing away here.
Apple isn’t popular with younger people the way it used to be, nobody likes Microsoft, everybody hates Android (I do too even though that is my phone os)… there is a major generational opening here for introducing kids to computers in a fun way and becoming “the computer” in the minds of kids.
Especially with the environmental crisis and climate change, people will look back at this and shake there heads and lament that if only Nintendo had copied Valve for that generation of Switches, Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out…
What people still don’t understand about computers and people is that whoever introduces kids to computers capable of doing complex work in a fun way will shape the future, because those kids will grow up into adults who create, use and design tools that do cool amazing things. Nintendo needs to wake the fuck up and realize they are selling a handheld computer that is very good at playing games, the world desperately needs another company with vision, good UI design, and the capability to bring hardware and software together into a competent computer experience (Microsoft cannot do this, and undermines all its hardware partners that actually try to do this with their own incompetence).
Yep. Old Nintendo you would buy the thing (cartridge/disk/ect) and with no fiddling the game runs. It used to be its best quality. That and most people don’t buy them new, they would get games used. It was “cheapish” and you knew you were going to have fun.
Nowadays it’s not so black and white. I have long term Nintendo fan friends that for the first time are thinking of skipping this generation. Or in one case waiting a couple of years. But we shall see. More options are good for all us users, so I’m happy we have these two companies vieing for our time/$.
The move to try to limit secondhand physical game sales and requiring the Internet to download the whole game in some instances was part of my decision to skip this generation, if I’m even going to stick with Nintendo at all in the future.
long term Nintendo fan friends that for the first time are thinking of skipping this generation
That’s me. Nintendo consoles since the Wii have been a “side piece” to more powerful consoles for me. Now that they’re pricing the console close to the powerful ones and charging MORE for the games, I’m out.
Oh, bollocks to that. All it took was one serious competitor to Pokémon to make Nintendo shit the bed. Excepting Zelda, most of the pathologically Nintendo games are shovelware-tier trash. If the current iteration of Mario or Mario Kart were released today without the nostalgiabait and brand recognition, they’d be the laughing stock of the industry.
All Nintendo has is quirky gadgets, a closed ecosystem, and notoriety.
If the current iteration of Mario or Mario Kart were released today without the nostalgiabait and brand recognition, they’d be the laughing stock of the industry.
This was very convenient, thanks. Now I know I can safely ignore every opinion you have on every matter.
I mean, they’re kind of right. Objectively Mario Odyssey and MK8 were great games that can proudly hold their own against any of the greats. Not the best games ever, but much closer to that title than to your Hateorade fuelled “opinions”.
I’m as pissed off at Nintendo as anyone at this point, but if you are going to straight up exaggerate your distaste for these games to the point of obviously lying, it shows two things.
You are infact the only person here actively unwilling to challenge your beliefs.
Your opinion is so based in emotion that it can’t be trusted. And an untrustworthy opinion can safely be disregarded.
Pokémon is indeed a sad state of affairs. Although it’s not developed by Nintendo, but that’s being pedantic.
In-house developed games are certainly of a quality you don’t find elsewhere. There’s a reason games like Metroid Prime, Mario Odyssey and Zelda BotW/TotK are critically acclaimed, and it’s not for being nostalgia bait.
Criticall acclaim doesn’t make a thing automatically good. The criteria are way too arbitrary, and sometimes boils down to “a well-known publisher has done a thing” simply because it attracts more eyes and journalists have a financial interest in playing nice with those publishers.
A Hat in Time was released around the same time as Odyssey. It’s the first game of a small indie studio and it beats the living piss out of Mario in terms of gameplay and style. The only reason it wasn’t more of a breakthrough was timing and getting eclipsed by Mario’s shadow.
I can understand not liking the genres or having different stylistic preferences, but saying that new Mario games are shovelware? Have you played them? SMB Wonder was the most fun my brother and I have had playing a platformer in like 20 years. The game is full of creativity, almost every level introduces a new game mechanic that could easily be its own game.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. The games part okay, kinda, since Nintendo games aren’t easily available on the Deck.
But tinkering? I’ve had a Steam Deck since it first launched, and the only tinkering I’ve done is because I could, and wanted to. Never because I needed to. All games I’ve played work perfectly out of the box. Even games marked as ‘unsupported’. All of my tinkering was completely unnecessary and done for additional fun, e.g. modding, which is one of the best things about PC gaming, and will most certainly never be a thing on Nintendo’s platforms.
As far as I can tell, “Nintendo people” don’t really ‘reason’. More like, they follow their uninformed preconceptions, and reject anything that doesn’t fit with them. My gf has been a Nintendo fan for a long time, and she was convinced other platforms aren’t that simple and offer a worse experience. I introduced her to PC gaming, and showed her how the Deck works. Now she’s forgotten about her Switch and isn’t going to buy Switch 2. It seems to me that all these people need is somebody to show them what gaming really is. Because whatever Nintendo is, it certainly isn’t gaming. Just a small glimpse into gaming, maybe.
As for Zelda, Mario or whatever fans - guess they’ll have to stick with Nintendo. Personally their games never appealed to me enough to buy a console specifically to play them. I’d like to play the new Zelda games, but I have a lot of other games to finish first. And then again, Switch emulation is incredibly easy. Took me like 10 or 15 minutes to get BotW working last time.
I agree with you, but I would say you can’t assume everyone has the same goals. I can tell you, my Nintendo friends are not idiots nor mindless zombies. They simply are not interested in learning about how the other options work, and I would say that’s totally fair.
I have a dear friend who has most of his games on Steam, but still, he told me he prefers the Switch. “Why?” I asked him. “Because Nintendo makes exactly the kind of games I want to play, and because unlike with the PC, I can just pick up my Switch and start playing” he answered.
I have a ROG Ally with Bazzite (so, basically equivalent to a Steam Deck) and I have to admit that, while 90% of the time every game works out of the box, sometimes some games misbehave. Although, to be fair, this only happened to me with Epic Games games ran through Heroic.
I would say it’s totally fair to prefer Nintendo. It gives you great games that don’t require tinkering. If that’s what you want, then Nintendo is a great option for you.
Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out…
This isn’t and has never been Nintendo’s desired goal. Needless obsolete handheld computers laying around is a feature not a bug. Nintendo wants to sell more hardware. If you’re able to use your hardware longer, it means lost sales. Nintendo also doesn’t want to be a general purpose OS. There’s all kinds of things you have to do as a company for a general purpose OS you don’t have to do as an embedded system as they are today.
Your assertion that Apple, Microsoft, and Android are all unpopular with everyone seems like it might actually be a personal opinion rather than a fact.
If we’re talking straight up cancelled, then I will forever be sad that Scalebound was cancelled.
I’m sure it wasn’t going to be as great as I was hoping anyways, but damn the concept looked so cool, and when I saw a dude with headphones jamming out to music fighting with his dragon buddy I was like “I want to be that!” Like it felt like that game was being made especially for me and my interests, and then it got cancelled 😔
Back in the day I played a browser game called “Inselkampf”. That was way before anybody did the whole monetization and one of the earlier browser games. Totally free, no micropayments. It was awesome: You had a level playground. People formed alliances on their own without the game having such a feature. We hang out in IRC channels. We plotted wars, starting in the middle of the night in order to surprise the other alliances. We had diplomats talking to other alliances. People started alt accounts and snuck into the enemy alliances in order to spy on them. Some rose to top ranks, leading to epic betrayals and epic wars.
Everything from that is gone. The game is long offline. The players dispersed, the IRC channels abandoned, everything never to be repeated
To be fair, they haven’t managed to put out a whole hell of a lot that’s actually compelling in the intervening years that weren’t rereleases. “Hey guys, DAE remember Resident Evil 4? The good one? We just re-re-re-released it. And some old Megaman games you already have. Full price!”
That seems pretty reductive IMO. Like RE7 and RE8 are genuinely good returns to form for the series. The RE2 and RE4 releases are remakes which by most standards improve the original releases and bring them into the current generation.
Then throw in the Phoenix Wright games, Monster Hunter games, Dragon’s Dogma games, Street Fighter games, DMC…
I would argue Capcom has been on a tear of very good games, especially in the last 5 years.
It’s a great trio of games (Legends 1 and 2, and the Misadventures of Tron Bonne) with quite a bit of depth and if you ask me a fantastic art direction for their time. The one thing I will say is that the controls did not age very well. You get used to it after a while. These games predate modern dual-stick movement and aiming and use the shoulder buttons for strafing. I think the Playstation versions are superior due to the increased number of buttons available on the controller.
Yeah, I came to mention this one specifically. The Legends series was incredible at the time, and there was a lot of potential for a third game with more modern controls. But instead, Capcom has made it clear that they intend to simply sit on the IP and never do anything with it.
Exactly. The two higher editions are OLED, 7.4”, 90 Hz, which is a huge plus, vs the LCD, 7”, 60Hz display of the old/cheaper one. Plus the battery has 25% more capacity for the OLED editions. But between the top two, it’s just storage and cosmetics/accessories.
Yeah, I don’t think there are any besides Luanti. The rest are pretty much all just closed source mc rip-offs/probably malware/microtransaction filled clones.
Silent Hills, it would have been interesting to see what Kojima and Guillermo del Toro would have created… but unfortunately.
Also: Starcraft Ghost, the original Fallout 3, Fez 2, Mother 3 on N64, Legacy of Kain the sixth game (not Dead Sun/Nosgoth), the original Duke Nukem Forever, and probably a bunch of others that I can’t remember right now.
My primary concern, too. It’s fine for my man-hands but my wife and children still would rather use a switch (or literally have to, as I try to get my 3 year old to reach buttons). A deck lite would be lovely.
We just use a neck roll placed in the lap or on the stomach to rest it on while playing. It is a bit on the heavy side, but it is the first generation consumer handheld with that kind of power so I can excuse that.
I wish the steam controller wasn’t discontinued, IIRC it was some patent bullshit. But you could use one of you have it or get any other controller and use it with the steam deck
I have one, and plenty of controllers, but I’d trade a bit of battery life and horsepower for weight. I don’t play AAA games on mine, and I know I’m not alone, so they’d be smart to release a lite version.
And it’s not just the weight. My wife has small hands and can’t play it comfortably because it’s so large. I bought her a WIN400 and threw SteamOS on it and that works alright. Something that size would be amazing from Valve (but without the really fucking stupid control placement).
Small form factor handhelds with power under the hood are definitely a thing, but they’re like $1200. I bet Valve could drop the power by 40% and sell it at a reasonable price point.
Fair enough, I guess they probably wanted to target one set of hardware to begin with and this is what we got with a few minor variations. As popularity grows more choices will probably come further down the line.
With the KillSwitch case from dbrand, the Deck is both heavy AND sturdy feeling. The grips on the case are AMAZING though, and really help with the heaviness. I bought the entire kit for mine, because I thought it looked sick, but I can highly recommend the case to anyone who would like the protection and ergonomics that the case can give you.
I like the heaviness, personally. Gives it a “premium” feel to it, but that is my opinion of course!
Can’t think of any survival mode clones for both Windows and Android, but Classicube is worth checking out.
It’s a rewrite of Minecraft Classic (circa 2009-2010) so basically old creative mode and it has a really cozy and welcoming community (shoutout to the folks on the Not Awesome 2 game server). It’s on Windows and Android (and even on some stranger platforms like 3DS, Wii, Dreamcast, and much more).
It has modding support too and comes with flying capabilities, so you don’t have to go full ancient Minecraft haha.
Yeah, it was a Gacha Battle Royale mobile port. But it was so fun to play. The community was fantastic, except the like 3 cheaters on perpetual ban cycle.
I loved the character design, and the mecha design. The graphics could age really well being cel-shaded/anime styled. And it was unique in its category, no other BR game lets you play as a pilot and call in a mecha, or battle a mecha as a pilot, or vice versa. And the best part was that the F2P economy was pretty good. Paid players got new characters and mecha a week or two weeks before paid players that haven’t been playing the game. F2P Barnacle players could use currency earned in-game for characters and mecha and it would take maybe a week or so to get the amount needed. You didn’t even have to win, you just had to play. It was great. The cosmetics were well designed too, mostly. Except that one Ventorus skin that made the extra hands a little too big and cover more of the screen than normal.
Sadly, the servers were shut down by NetEase, probably to make more server space for Marvel Rivals.
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