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scrooge, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

No, they have a learning curve but that’s about it. They are not unfair or over difficult like some of those meme games that were popular a while ago

daggermoon,

When I was a kid I played a flash game called World’s Hardest Game or something like that. It was a puzzle game where you move a red square through a maze with obstacles. Bloodborne looks like a walk in the park in comparison. I know it’s sort of random but the meme games reminded me of that.

konna, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

They require a different mindset and approach than many other games. You can view it as a test of will: your victory is inevitable since every time you die, you respawn and have learned a little. The game tries to make you quit, not by being unfair but by punishing laziness and corner cutting. The rewarding feeling you get when you finally, initially through stubborness and eventually by skill beat a difficult boss is immense. The videos of people easily dodging attacks and showing restraint in their attacks beat difficult bosses - that will be you eventually. Just accept that dying and trying again is an integral part of the experience, it does not mean that you are bad at the game. There can not be a feeling of accomplishment and achievement if there is no resistance, no? Go and have fun! And remember, there is no “wrong way” to play - all the mechanics in the games are there for a reason, so use them!

moreeni, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

Souls games require repetition to remember the bosses’ moves and a lot of patience. Give it a try, maybe you will like the challenge it offers.

iusearchbtw, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

the thing about souls games is that people on the internet insist that the only REAL way to play them is through extra difficult self-imposed challenge runs (summons? resin? pyromancy? you didn’t beat the game)

ignore that and you can temper the difficulty down a lot, though you’ll likely still need a good amount of patience and perseverance, especially if it’s your first time playing

daggermoon,

I’ve beat frustrating games before so I think I have the required patience. It was a different type of game but it still applies I think.

wccrawford, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

When I was a kid, Tomb Raider was a pretty easy game, except this one part that required absolutely perfect timing for a some running and jumping between platforms for a bonus item.

At the start, I could make it to the next platform. After a while, I could do 2. Eventually, I got 3. After a long, long time, I finally managed to string all of them together… And screwed up the very last one.

Here’s the thing, though. I got it on the very next attempt. I had learned that sequence so well that it actually wasn’t hard any more, even though it was nearly impossible for me at the start.

Afterwards, my parents (who watched the whole thing) told me they had never seen me focus on something so intently for so long and they couldn’t believe I managed it.

That’s what souls games are, from start to finish. Every single encounter is basically impossible at first, until you die and learn enough to get through it. But you start from the beginning of the game every freaking time.

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

That’s what soloing dungeons in Destiny is like. They’re 3-man activities but can all be done solo if you’ve got the balls. The real trick is a Flawless run, zero deaths. I spent months working on my first Solo Flawless, and once I nailed it, it was as if everything else had gotten easier. Now I can run that dungeon with my eyes closed.

I can respect that, even if I’m not a big Souls player. Set a goal, commit to it, and see it through. It’s good practice for life.

wccrawford,

Oh man. There’s only one of those dungeons that I actually like, and I got almost 2/3 through it solo, and decided that I just didn’t care enough. I’m sure I could have done it with enough tries… But ugh. So time consuming.

I totally respect people that do it even once, and people that do it for every dungeon are basically gods.

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

I did Pit of Heresy. Which is debatably the easiest dungeon (Shattered Throne came out earlier, but Pit has Rally flags), but still. I wear the emblem proudly (and have even taught the dungeon to a few newbies). I’ve nearly completed Grasp, and I’ve gotten well into the second boss of Warlord’s solo, but… then I take a long break and play other stuff.

With Prismatic it’s actually much easier to run a good mix of sustain, CC, and DPS in one loadout.

Spacehooks, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

Nice thing about the PC version is you could mod it to be easier. Keep in mind you still need some skill. I maxed my level in code vein and lies of P but stilled struggled a bit.

Juice,

PC version

OP said Bloodborne

Spacehooks,

Don’t make me cry that it doesn’t exist…yet.

ptc075, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

Witcher 3.

Shiggles, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

Souls games are literally just rhythm games. 90% of boss fights are watching for when the enemy commits to moving forward and pressing the roll button, once they stop for a bit, give em a tickle. Repeat until god is dead.

Takumidesh,

1000 perfectly timed butt pokes.

thirteene,

💯 It was never hard, you just didn’t know the rhythm yet. Any game that is too lazy to figure out scaling just gets relabeled as a souls game. You’ll get the same experience playing most games without equipment.

Coskii, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Baba is you. I know the game was made by people much smarter than I am, I know I’m going to get stuck chasing a bad idea for 30+ minutes…

I have just not been feeling puzzley lately.

zante, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

I tapped out because I wasn’t motivated .

It’s old school difficulty, and I am no longer that kid who ‘has got to beat the next level’

Thavron,
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I am also no longer the kid with that much free time.

nixxo, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?

Combat Master, a free to play CoD like.

Juice, (edited ) do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

Soulsborne games are hard, but they’re designed to teach you how to play through death. I’m gonna teach you how to play Bloodborne.

These are tips for a first playthrough, some of this advice isn’t universal but it will take the sting and uncertainty out of the game since it actually tells you very little in the way of strategies and best practices.

  1. Which weapon to pick - you start out without a weapon, the game wants you to get killed, and when you do you will get a starting weapon. I’m going to make a gross generalization here, all three weapons are great, but start with the Saw Cleaver. Its arguably the best weapon in the game, and you can choose it right after you die. You can perform a light attack with r1 and if you press l1 immediately after you will do a transform attack which is 50% more powerful than your light attack and does a ton of stagger which can break boss parts allowing you to get free hits and . You can literally just r1-l1-l1-r1-l1-l1… Combo through the entire lgame. Simple and incredibly powerful. Then, pick the pistol to learn how to parry. Put all your upgrade materials into the cleaver.
  2. How to level your character - if you pick the saw cleaver, it levels primarily with strength. But your first priority is to level vitality. Level your vitality to 25 before leveling any other stat. This will give you more survivability, and most of your damage will come from upgrading your weapon anyway. Skill is also okay to level, it will give you some more damage to your weapon (not as much as str) and also strengthen visceral attacks. Arcane is if you want to use hunter tools, which are neat but strictly optional. Bloodtinge strengthens your gun, but there are only 3 weapons that scale with it and they’re more difficult to use. Endurance is optional, it makes fights a bit faster cuz you can get more hits in before your stamina depletes, but you can play the whole game with base stamina no problem. Strictly optional. The max you should level any stat is 50, the exception is endurance which has a hard-hardcap at 40. Stick to vitality, str and skill until they reach their hardcaps at 50 and then you can level whatever you want and mess around cuz you’ll likely be in ng+ or higher. Honestly levels don’t matter much, you could get a cheat that levels you to level 250 and still struggle with early bosses. I’ve seen it happen.
  3. How to level your weapon - bloodstone shards are used to make your weapon stronger. You can also fit gems in your weapon to make your weapon more powerful. You’ll get lots of these but level up your cleaver until it won’t take any more of a certain type. There are 4 different bloodstones, and you need 16 to level up 3 times (except the last one which only requires 1 for the final level.) Max level is 10.
  4. Other tips - you don’t have to fight everything. Lots of people give up at the beginning because there is a bonfire with a bunch of enemies around it and they try to take them all on. Or you can just run past it if you know the way past. If you get stuck on a boss explore somewhere you haven’t been, or take a break. You need a clear head. Remember the game teaches by killing you so if you aren’t trying to learn a boss’s attack patterns and trying new ways to defeat them, they can be pretty difficult. Serrated weapons like the Cleaver’s untransformed mode deal additional damage to beasts, and so does fire, like fire paper and Molotov’s. Molotov’s are great, use them, and they’re pretty cheap early game. Buy bloodvials and bullets too so you don’t get caught lacking.

You can summon other players if you have PS+ so r/huntersbell is a good place to find cooperators, and they have a discord too if you don’t like reddit. This game is so good, and has tons of replay value so don’t worry if you need a little help. The story is amazing so just get through it. The DLC is 1000% worth it, if you find yourself liking the game get the dlc. Reach out of you need help or have questions, I love this game so much, and I love helping people with it so don’t hesitate!

Kissaki, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

Half Life Alyx

Zahille7, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?

I’ve been replaying Borderlands 3, so honestly I’d recommend any of those games for a cozy shooter. The stories don’t take themselves too seriously, if you die you can just respawn immediately in the vicinity, and it can be pretty relaxing to just mow down waves of bandits or whatever other enemies.

bungle_in_the_jungle, do gaming w What game had the most hype cover dissapointing gameplay?

No Mans Sky at launch but man… What a comeback for them!

Cadeillac,
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I worked at GameStop at the time. The policy was absolutely no returns on new titles that had been opened. The day after the launch was not a fun day. We even had people trade it in for probably less than half of what they paid

Fuck GameStop. They treat customers bad and employees worse. Do not fucking support them

Skullgrid,
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I still haven’t properly played, I pre-ordered. I had some ok fun when it came out, got tempted about the plot, saw the miles of posts saying “fuck going to the center of the universe, not worth it” and left it alone.

I’m still ok with having made the pre order, because my motives have always been “I liked joe danger , and the small team behind it say they’ve got the balls to procedurely generate an entire universe? OK, let’s make it happen.” and they did. As far as I’m concerned, I got what I paid for.

now I just gotta be in the mood to play a crafting exploration game. I’ve been waiting for quite a few years… I’m afraid to check how many, because it’s going to make me feel ancient

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