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Klear, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?

Bulletstorm. It’s not about survival as much as killing enemies as creatively as possible. And the writing is brilliant in its stupidity. One of my favourite games of all times.

idyllic_optimism, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

I was thinking of Stardew Valley and Rimworld while reading your post, sure enough SDW was mentioned at the end :D

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Sell me on rimworld! What do you like about it/what do ya like to do

exu,

Cannibalism is a viable option. Do you need more?

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

I knew a guy who got real into it and started an “Accidental Cannibal Cult”. It was fun to listen to, if nothing else - I don’t get into those games much. Kinda like hearing EVE Online or Dwarf Fortress stories.

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Child labour was what got me into Frostpunk. Sold.

Okami_No_Rei,
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Rimworld is a great Colony Sim if you love the idea of Dwarf Fortress but want a gameplay experience that’s much more accessible with a much softer learning curve.

It plays into the chaotic post apocalyptic Mad Max style hellscape fantasy really well, and does not attempt to police your morality. You can love and care for your colonists, meeting their needs and growing to know them as individual people with their own unique stories, or you can play as efficiently or sadistically as you like, throwing ethics out the window and following the Geneva Suggestions wherever you deem prudent.

The base game is good for hundreds of hours of play, and expansions bump that up to thousands of hours of fun, but it also has a very healthy modding community if that’s still not enough.

If you’re unfamiliar with the Colony Sim genre, the basic idea is that you start with a set of semi-randomized colonists on a randomized map and need to build up a functioning Colony to survive. You the player take the role of a manager or overlord and set tasks for your colonists to complete, which they then take time to carry out while you watch and plan the next set of tasks. You need to gather materials, build shelter, grow or hunt food, defend yourself from wildlife and raiders, and recruit new colonists.

Rimworld in particular has fun building mechanics with an emphasis on building power grids and heat management (air conditioning and heating to keep your colonists comfy and keep food from spoiling). It’s a lot like a top-down Oxygen Not Included, but with simpler mechanics and more focus on its (procedurally generated) story.

PerogiBoi,
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Neat! Thank you for taking the time to make such a comprehensive review. Sounds like it’s up my alley! I enjoyed Frostpunk and the Tropico series (as well as Banished although I thought it was sort of boring after a while).

Okami_No_Rei,
@Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world avatar

Ooh. I’ve heard of Frostpunk and Tropico but never played them myself. If they’re similar to Rimworld I need to check them out.

PerogiBoi,
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They’re similar in that they’re colony builders :)

HeadfullofSoup,

Over 2000 hour of play and i never won once but had so much fun losing in some really stupid way and some tragic one too.

With the mod and dlc each new game are mostly unique

idyllic_optimism,

The colonists you are given all have character traits and there is a social aspect of the game. Colonists can start relationships, start families, break up, start social fights and end up in infirmarry… Sometimes, family members of your colonists come to your colony as raiders. All these stories forming during gameplay is the real strength of the game for me.

For example, there was this one colonist woman in one of my playthroughs. She was the tough, soldier type. She started one or two relationships in the colony but ended them. Then she tried to go back to them. It started creating some complicated feelings among the colony so I sent her to scavenge a nearby abandoned base.

Before she can leave, a band of raiders popped in. One of the raiders was her teenage son! So I start getting so invested in saving the son and bringing him back to the colony. I’m not that skilled in combat or tactics so I save the game multiple times until a trap injures the boy so his mom can snatch him without fighting. She takes him into one of the intact rooms in the ruin and patches up his wound, shares her food. (She takes him prisoner and you can keep talking to prisoners and convert them into your colonists. )

Here is a scene where raiders running around outside, raiding. And a mother and son, hunkered down in a room, trying to reconnect.

While the boy is recovering in the impromptu prison room, she gets out and shoots the raiders one by one. Rest of the raiders leave the map after losing enough members.

Mother and son talk about family, son talks about some childhood memories. Eventually, he is no longer a prisoner but a newly recruited member of the colony. Woman comes back with her son. Son turns out to be a psychopath but that’s ok. At the Rim, we love psychopaths, they do gruesome task of disposing raider corpses, for example, without getting emotional strain.

Mother stopped creating drama in the colony after son joined.

If you read people’s stories in the steam comments (there are a lot of war crime simulator stories, too, be warned) you may get why it’s so addictive.

PerogiBoi,
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Wild.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

The Java edition of Minecraft is also pretty good for having no microtransactions.

idyllic_optimism,

And modpacks…all the modpacks! All of them turn the game into a whole new game.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

A good chunk of the 3DS library. So many titles I haven’t gotten around to yet.

I need to eventually finish monster hunter iceborne and then play Rise! I have a feeling I’ll probably end up just jumping to wilds though. It’ll probably be hard to go back to older titles when that game releases.

The Yakuza series! I have only finished zero, 1 & 2. They release them faster than I’m getting to them lol.

Ashen44,

Monster hunter mentioned!

I really want to tell you to give rise a try because the sunbreak expansion is absolute peak monster hunter, but I agree that february 28th release date is creeping up way too fast…

Mr_Blott, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?

The original Sniper Ghost Warrior games were really chill. More about stealth than action

Gerudo, do gaming w (not) shipping gaming PCs

Absolutely price check parts before moving. I hear about parts overseas being priced way higher vs. the US depending on where you are.

y0kai, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

Maybe its the 'tism but I never gave a shit about most microtransactiony things unless they have a “pay-to-win” element. That’s why I gave up on GTA online.

But if its just like “exclusive skins”, I could give a shit. My default skinned character can still win against a guy in a bear-suit with a golden AK and that’s really all I need. I have no particular FOMO of not winning the fashion part of the game.

I do wish games I could turn off their constant begging for my money though.

ihatetheworld,

It is always such a satisfying feeling to loot the $999 weapon skin off your enemy dead body.

Thank you for spending on my behalf and letting me play this game as a f2p and for letting me use your rare skin.

I avoid any games that have p2w mtx but I can tolerate it somewhat if it is a PvE only or ‘single player’ like in Genshin-like games.

I dislike the practice of having mtx of any kind in pay to play games so I tend to avoid those too.

Buttflapper,

My default skinned character can still win against a guy in a bear-suit with a golden AK and that’s really all I need. I have no particular FOMO of not winning the fashion part of the game.

Sure, until Activision starts using its new patented pay to win technology

Twitter user strahfe recently shared a patent by Activision that suggests buying cosmetic items could increase your chances of being placed in games against less-experienced players. The patent reads: “The microtransaction engine may match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player”

I’m not heavy into conspiracies, but I’m suspicious enough to not give Activision the benefit of the doubt and bet that they’ve done this in secret if they have a patent for it. But really… if we’re even thinking about these kinds of things, the game is a lost cause.

PunchingWood,

Even a bunch of competitive games it hasn’t bothered me that much unless it’s like a real big difference.

I actually enjoy taking the shitter on people that paid to be “good”, then get their asses handed to them to someone who clearly never spent a dime.

conciselyverbose,

You used to unlock cool stuff by playing the game.

They removed that whole loop of discovering cool stuff by doing cool things and replaced it with cash grubbing.

aphonefriend,

Played Terraria recently and this concept you speak of shined in it. Almost forgot how fun discovering new things as you play the actual game was.

Nighed,
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Wow still has a lot of achievement/reputation(grind) related cosmetics.

But yeh, it’s a shame that when you see a cool/unique looking mout etc that you now assume it’s paid by default.

RonnieB,

My problem with “its just cosmetic” is that it turns the entire main screen into ad space, along with loading screens and wherever else they can jam it in. I don’t play game to be advertised to.

Of course I can choose not to buy in, but if it didn’t have a psychological effect they wouldn’t be doing it.

Exusia,
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An argument I heard, and adopted is that it’s never “just” cosmetic. Your enjoyment of the game is impacted by how you perceive your avatar. This is why fortnite skins sell so well to new players. It’s not just cosmetic to drop $20 on Cuddle Team Leader. It makes a user feel silly and increases enjoyment running around as an obvious pink mascot costume. It prolongs how long you play both by increased enjoyment, and sunk cost fallacy. In any game with cosmetics, purchases drive playtime.

hoshikarakitaridia,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I had to realize that as well at some point.

Used to play games and I was so focused on gameplay, I always thought “why even have a lot of art in there”. But then you realize if the art sucks, you wouldn’t even be giving it a chance.

And this extends to skins and stuff. If it’s “just cosmetics”, that still means there is some art that is now hidden unless you throw money at your screen. And depending on how much it is, the game might be way too boring without it. So you’re still buying bits of a game after the fact. And voila, we’re back to the reasons why DLCs suck.

helenslunch,
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But if its just like “exclusive skins”, I could give a shit.

I think you meant “couldn’t”.

I do wish games I could turn off their constant begging for my money though.

The “constant begging” is why I don’t even look twice at these games.

webghost0101, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

0 A.D is an free open source age of strategy kind of game. Add it to your collection.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Are you able to elaborate a little bit on age of strategy?

webghost0101,

I had huge age of empire nostalgia vibes,

My friend had the same feeling but age of mythology instead.

Neither of us played the “other” game but we both agreed the sound design in 0ad was almost identical to our different memories.

They are top down strategy games so i sort of gave it this umbrella term. “Age of … “ strategy games

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Perfect, thanks so much! I kind of thought this but wanted to make sure. I’m not super familiar with them but have always been curious. Maybe somebody has ported it to Android

fsxylo,

Just randomly browsing Lemmy and I get a whole ass game to check out for free.

primarybelief, do games w Are there Cozy shooter games?

Vermintide 1 is a top notch flow state game where your mind can melt while you dodge-dance and kill with fluidity. Highly recommend. Very chill.

helenslunch, do gaming w (not) shipping gaming PCs
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Buy a replacement SSD and stick it in there before selling. Reinstall Windows. Maybe buy a cheap key and reactivate the license. You can get a 1TB SSD for ~$60 these days.

A lot of people are going to want a “ready to play” PC.

randombullet,

Just use MAS

massgrave.dev

You’re already paying them with your data.

frank,

Great suggestion, I think making them ready to play might be the move

TommySoda, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

I cannot tell you how much better my mental health has been since I stopped playing Apex Legends, Overwatch, and Rocket League. I never had anything against the gameplay of these games but the microtransactions and battle passes were just straight up toxic. After a couple weeks you simply don’t give a shit anymore and it’s amazing. I see my roommate playing these games until 3 AM every day because he has to do his daily challenges for 4 different games. He’ll be so pissed off that he can barely speak as he powers through game after game to get them done so he can go to bed. And in hindsight, that’s probably what I used to look like back when I played those games.

Buttflapper,

Apex Legends … the microtransactions and battle passes were just straight up toxic

My friend bought Battlepass for Apex once because it had a pretty decent skin in it. Then, he was straight up *PISSED * when next season they had the most ridiculous, incredible looking skin ever. He felt like he had to purchase it again that season, and was bitter he spent money the previous season for something so mediocre. That kind of thought process is just awful. These games lure you right into it.

Prox,

Apex battle passes have always given you enough credit to buy the next season’s pass. I’ve been playing since launch, I’ve completed all battle passes save for maybe 4, and I’ve spent a total of $10 on the game.

TommySoda,

Until they start charging only money for the battle passes. I never even used 80% of the skins I got on the battle passes anyway. I just wanted them so I didn’t not have them. As someone that has over 2,000 hours in Apex, I’m so glad I jumped ship. The grass was very green on the other side.

Prox,

Funny you should mention that. They attempted to do precisely this (only buy the BP with real money) a few months ago. The player base revolted, and they walked it back to the way things were.

ICastFist,
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He’ll be so pissed off that he can barely speak as he powers through game after game to get them done so he can go to bed.

If you want to help him get out of that, give him a burn or two every once in a while: “How are your second, third and fourth jobs coming along?” - “With all that work you do, you should ask for a raise!”

Hopefully he’ll realize he’s not playing, but working, and give up on that. Hopefully.

Xatolos, do gaming w (not) shipping gaming PCs
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Double check prices first. I moved from Canada to the Euro and all electronics are about 20% more expensive here (when converting the currency). Including from the companies website (Google, Microsoft, Apple) so it’s not just a third party raising prices issue.

frank,

Oh that’s a great call. I’ll have to look and find the balance here between ship and buy.

PapstJL4U, do games w I'm tired of every game being live service
@PapstJL4U@lemmy.world avatar

Resident Evil series? Survival Horror games… Boomer Shooters… Pathfinder games… Everything from Larian studios… Totalwar Games…

Xatolos, do gaming w What game had the most hype cover dissapointing gameplay?
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RightHandOfIkaros, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

I don’t think its so much the microtransactions as it is games with a highly competitive spirit. PvP games in particular. I don’t find myself having any negative feelings after playing a game like Zenless Zone Zero or Goddess of Victory NIKKE, but after about two matches of Dead by Daylight, a game with a notoriously toxic playerbase, I definitely feel worse than before I play, particularly if the matches do not go well for me.

Im the kind of player that doesn’t spend money unless I feel like something provides me value. Ive played ZZZ since release and haven’t spent a single cent, and NIKKE since its release and only spent $25 total. I have enough self-control to handle those games and can spot bad value in games like gacha games pretty fast. So for me it isn’t really about microtransactions, its definitely about competition with other players, and interactions with them. Playing a game of DBD, winning, and then having everyone (usually TTV streamers) call you names in chat or on their stream and report/mercilessly harrass you ( for winning in a video game, mind you) is a completly different level of toxic that I doubt many would be able to properly handle long term.

Its why I pretty much never recommend DBD to people.

Buttflapper,

I don’t find myself having any negative feelings after playing a game like Zenless Zone Zero

I agree with the rest of what you said but this part is crazy. Gacha games are so heavily monetized it’s wild. I played zenless as well up until a few weeks ago, that game is such a trash can. I used every single currency that I had earned in the entire game and couldn’t get The character I wanted. Some people spend as much as $2,000 on the game just trying to get a single character. That kind of gambling is even worse than what I’m talking about

RightHandOfIkaros,

Well the issue is that some people confuse a want for a need.

Wanting characters is great but the problem comes from being disappointed that you didn’t get what you want as fast as you thought you should. The true method of playing a gacha game is like running a marathon, its not a race and you take it slow. Play in your free time, down time, whatever. I don’t play those games as my main game, just as a side game. Sometimes I miss a day for the login or a special event or even a character that I really wanted but at the end of the day, its just a video game and I am not going to die without that thing or character I wanted. If I get it, its simply a bonus to the joy I get from playing the game already. I don’t play a game long if I don’t have fun with it at least more than when I don’t.

Some people don’t have self control, and I am not saying that the games are not monetized in a predatory way. But I view it no different from actual gachapon: capsule toys. You know, like a gumball machine, but the little plastic ball that has a random small toy or stickers inside. You pay, turn the knob, and you always win something, you just don’t know what. To me, I dont consider that the same as gambling like with a slot machine. That’s just my opinion, and I sure I am in the minority with that, and with my overall attitude towards gacha games in general.

Buttflapper,

Any lottery style game (let’s be honest, Gacha = Lottery) is psychologically harmful in my opinion because it trains you to gamble, there’s no other way around it. These games purposefully condition you to spend currency that you’ve earned, lose majorly, and then get rushes of dopamine when you finally win. They are designed to keep you wanting more. If you think I’m making this up, then read Got ya!: The Psychology of Gacha Addiction

Gacha games have mastered the art of making us eagerly anticipate each draw, activating our brain’s reward system and flooding us with dopamine — the pleasure neurotransmitter. It’s the chemical cocktail that keeps us engaged, excited, and coming back for more. Next on the list is the ‘just one more try’ mentality

There’s nothing remotely healthy about this at all, which runs completely contrary to what my personal goals are

RightHandOfIkaros,

Well as I said, it is my opinion and I have the self-control to be able to play and enjoy gacha games without being financially irresponsible. When I pull for a character in a gacha game, for example, I just skip the animation to go directly to the results. Not only is it faster but it also bypasses the “anticipation building” that the animation and sound effects create. I am glad you have learned for yourself how to have better mental health, but I am saying for me its not about MTX, its more about competition or competitive style games.

Don’t get me wrong, I still play competitive games. I love me some Battlefield 4, Forza Motorsport, Dead By Daylight (when the people I play against decide to not be serial harrassers), and others. Its just that I try to view it differently. Again, its only a video game and at the end of the day, I am not going to die over anything in the game, winning or losing or whatever. It can sometimes make me feel bad when I have a long losing streak or if I get harrassed, but when that happens I just turn off that game for a week or two and play something else. I don’t have to go to the extreme of uninstalling, but I can understand that some do and that’s totally fine.

PolandIsAStateOfMind, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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No

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HipsterTenZero,
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hey, in souls, a win is a win is a win.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
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Cheating is just selfdefence in some games.

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