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nutsack, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux is fine. Ive been using it since before ubuntu was invented. But Windows has the most goddamn computer games.

Womble,

The vast majority of which now run fine on linux with proton.

Wiz, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m planning on it.

I tried a rest run with Kubuntu on an old laptop I had, and it runs 95% flawlessly. My biggest issue is my new Brother printer that I’m trying to install connected to Wi-Fi. The system sems to know it’s there, but then doesn’t seem to install the drivers. My Android phone prints there just fine.

domi,
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I assume you tried adding a new printer through KDE? There’s usually no driver needed if all you need to do is simply print/scan.

https://lemmy.secnd.me/pictrs/image/bbe5d638-f4cb-4744-b35b-9ca1d134431f.png

Does it fail with both options?

Wiz,

I thank you sincerely for getting back to me on this. I wanted to let you know I just figured it out! I thought I’d document it for the next person to come along.

I had tried all of the options in that screenshot, and none seemed to work.

Investigating further, it was a Brother printer, so I needed to download special drivers: support.brother.com/g/b/productsearch.aspx?c=us&l…

Then, arcane magic needed to be performed on the command line: support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&l…

I had done all that, but I still had a problem. Digging through the script output, apparently I had a bad “libsane” installed with apt. Also, to add to the problems, apt doesn’t recognize the string “libsane” now. We are to use its new name “libsane1” now in apt! So, I tried to reinstall and then reinstall the brother printer drivers, to no avail. Eventually, I had to completely uninstall libsane, and then reinstall it. And everything magically worked.

It’s so easy! 🤨

One thing to be ready to have is the IP number of the printer, which I was able to get in the WiFi options of the printer.

Whew! Test page printed on my test machine! I feel like this was my last major hurdle before adopting Linux on other machines.

Again, thanks for responding!

domi,
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Thanks for documenting it for future people! Glad you got it to work.

Lucidlethargy, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

No, I do not plan to jump to Linux, which doesn’t play many games still without a lot of headaches. Any other questions?

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Yes, I do have questions, why?

why do you care about those games so much when 90% (actually more I think) work perfectly and the few that don’t fail because they have malware?

sporkler, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I upgraded last year, have lost no functionality

CitricBase,

Me too! I upgraded to Fedora Linux. It’s amazing how everything just works, even all the games I play.

pulsewidth,

Upgraded to Linux or Windows 11?

Because nobody is claiming you’ll lose functionality with Windows 11, so your post seems to imply Linux but I’m unsure.

sporkler,

Linux

Critical_Thinker, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

linux primary with dual boot for a windows install just because of the games that won’t work.

sdtg5afwooasiwefr, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

This year will be the year of the Linux desktop for shure. I believe in it like the years before.

pulsewidth,

For Shure maybe, but what about for other audio products companies?

P. S. I unironically believe 2025 may be looked back on as the year of the Linux desktop. May have finally got through the trough, we’ll see though.

terrifyingtuba, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I am going to attempt to switch to Linux, I’m definitely not going to willingly use windows platforms again.

humpacactus,

As a lifelong windows gamer I’ve just switched to cachyos and honestly it’s been fantastic. Performance seems on par (or within 5 percent) and it’s super customizable. Haven’t had any issues getting things working, including non-steam alphas. Went into it thinking I’d probably switch back, but have no need currently. You definitely need some troubleshooting skills, but nothing too crazy if you already tinker a bit in windows.

Edit: I’m also running triple monitors at 144hz and it’s been completely fine (and I’m on Nvidia).

kjetil,

For those of us who didn’t know, CachyOS is and Arch-based distor with performance focus and some ease of use tools.

this blog explains some difference to other Arch-based distros

EndlessNightmare,

I bought a new computer a few years ago that has 11 on it. With how the Steam Deck has seemed to really promote Linux for gaming, I’m seriously considering it on my next build.

It is very obvious to me that Windows is becoming increasingly subject to enshittification.

terrifyingtuba,

Yeah, proton seems to really work wonders, and it seems it’s only going to get better. I have windows 11 on my work laptop and I hate it.

Zarxrax, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

A couple weeks ago I attempted to switch over to Linux. Tried installing both Cachyos and Nobara. It was kind of a shit show, nothing worked correctly, stuff was erroring out and crashing left and right, and after a couple days I gave up.

Today I went ahead and installed windows 11. There were some issues… It wouldn’t recognize my CD key, and I accidentally wiped a partition from the wrong drive. But as for the os itself, I spent a few hours getting things set up, and it’s not as horrible as I thought it would be. I was able to simply turn off most of the shit like copilot and recall, and all the advertisements, and I pretty much have it working as I want it to.

RedditRefugee69,

I’ve been using Linux for years and I’ve never heard of the distros you just named.

I’m not surprised at all that you had trouble using niche distros. Try something more popular with good documentation so you have a community supporting you with bug testing, guides, and Q+As when people run into issues you might run into later.

Zarxrax,

My priorities are being able to run Davinci resolve and Steam games. Nobara ticks those boxes while advertising itself as user friendly. I have heard too many stories of people having trouble getting this stuff running on something like Linux mint, so I didn’t go in that direction. I need to do more with my computer than just view web sites or write code.

hobbsc,
@hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

maybe try bazzite? i’ve found it to be a better experience than nobara and steam games run fine for me, aside from the obvious big titles that have anticheat issues.

they have a guide for davinci resolve, too: universal-blue.discourse.group/t/…/1197

Zarxrax,

I don’t really feel like going down the rabbit hole of trying a hundred different distros to maybe find one that works. My experiences with those two were that things were completely broken, randomly. Like just trying to boot the USB installer would lock up half the time, the installer itself would fail partway through most of the time, when things got fully installed, trying to update or install new things would just fail randomly. The kde desktop would crash just from me changing settings in the kde menus.

hobbsc,
@hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

sounds like you’ve made up your mind. wnjoy windows 11!

RedditRefugee69,

I would try Ubuntu in your shoes, personally. It’s got downsides but it’s definitely plug and play. I don’t know what metrics distrowatch uses to rate distros but it’s widely known that Ubuntu is user friendly as hell.

RedditRefugee69,

Where are you getting these distros from? Most popular distros do more than “just view websites or write code.”

Zarxrax,

They are ranked number 3 and 13 on distro watch, so they are hardly unknown. And lots on Linux YouTubers were talking about how great they were.

TheGreenWizard,

If you ever give it a go again, I’d suggest trying to get used to software that you’d need to use on Linux (aka, alternatives that won’t work well outside of windows). I already used a lot of free openscource software that works on Linux like libre office, krita, kdenlive, obs, when i used windows. That made swapping a lot more comfortable. Next I really recomend something like Linux mint, or popos (look up screenshots and decide witch one looks cooler) then, if you are enjoying it after a few months, give arch or nixos a try, or don’t if the distro you use does what you want, and you found ways to make it work for you, then stick with it. I hope the next time you give it a try works out better for you.

kjetil,

Da Vinci Resolve has native Linux builds though and should work. And does on Ubuntu based, Rocky Linux, arch and NixOS. I’m not sure about Nobora (Fedora based).

Though it’s hard to know what went wrong with vague descriptions like “everything was crashing”…

Dumbkid, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No way I’m switching to Linux yet, multi monitors support with mixed resolutions and vrr on nvidia still kinda sucks. As soon as someone makes that work I’ll try it out on a separate partition. Buy last time I tried my other monitors had all kinds of issues when I had games open with gysnc

dubyakay,

I’m using multi monitors with mixed resolutions and a very old nvidia card (gtx 670).

The only problem I have is that if I put them to sleep, while autorandr or whatever gets me the resolutions and layout back, the app windows move around like crazy because they all wake up at different times, likely due to a mix of HDMI + DVI + DisplayPort connections.

Edit: I see now, this is only an issue when we are talking about vrr simultaneously.

sexy_peach,
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Dual mon with diff res works as expected here. I even have different hz I think

CaptKoala, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

When that time comes I’ll probably either remove networking from, or just wipe win10 entirely.

Been using mint as my daily for a while now and I hate booting into windows 😂

HexesofVexes, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

It’s going to be purchase a new hard drive and then jump to Linux Mint this August.

It’s not an experience I am looking forward to (5080S, I do a lot of modding, and enjoy fangames/indie games which do not always play nice with linux) but needs must - the Linux community in general is very friendly, so we’ll get through it, even if the first 6 months are rough. I’ll keep the dual boot and push the windows partition to 11 if needed by work, that way I can put off rewriting my elderly access database for another few years.

Honestly, Microsoft are committing suicide when it comes to home users. It won’t be sudden, but the wheels are turning, all the IT savvy folks are switching people over (already did my aunt’s potato, mum’s demi-tato is next week). Eventually, a tipping point will be reached and offices will start switching - I hope that day comes before I die of old age!

kjetil,

Tip: Add your non-steam games to steam to launch launch them with Proton. thats probably the easiest way.

Otherwise there’s Bottles and Lutris (and maybe HeroicLauncher)

Iceblade02,

There’s also umu!

It essentially (if I’ve understood things correctly) aims to replicate the behaviour of proton.

Works like a charm, I have a simple alias set up that will run almost any .exe - even installers and stuff. Only thing that hasn’t worked so far was my digital exam software (that is essentially a windows rootkit) because it couldn’t find the cursor images lol.

HexesofVexes,

Thanks for the tips!

Lutris I’ve used with some success, and I’m somewhat ok with wine when it works out if the box (or troubleshooting using the wine wiki).

Do you recommend any other sites/guides for troubleshooting?

kjetil,

Bottles is just a GUI to help you set up wine environments without having to deal with wine directly.

For troubleshooting just the lutris forums and wine bugtracker. I mostly play steam games so protondb is the best source of troubleshooting tips.

AceFuzzLord,

…all the IT savvy folks are switching people over…

Totally feels strange because my dad’s laptop doesn’t have the TPM requirement and he was telling me about how he was talking to the IT guy at his work about possibly switching to Linux just so he can keep his laptop. No clue if he’s gonna have me or ask if Mr. IT can do it, though, if he follows through. Absolutely insane because I might not be the only person in my house using it anymore (android not included because I view it as a completely separate entity).

I was telling him that day that I could flash Mint (have the most recent addition on my laptop) to a thumb drive if he was actually wanting to switch over. He’s definitely an average computer user, so nothing too special, but it still feels real weird.

Though this will also suck for a while because the tech savvy people helping them switch over will also be running IT for these people who have never used Linux before and most likely have never even used windows CMD either. Cannot wait for stories of people being fed up because their parent/aunt/uncle/friend/whoever looked up how to fix their device and entered the cursed rf command without thinking once about it.

Frieren,

Best part is, if they do switch over they won’t go back. Not having to deal either bloat and telemetry is worth it.

dreugeworst,

good thing about the terminal is it scares most general users so much that they won’t touch it even with instructions. There will be many issues, but I don’t think people running random commands in the terminal will be common

HexesofVexes,

So, in the case of my aunt, there were a few teething troubles. That said, a lot of it was just requests to add web page shortcuts to her desktop.

The really big thing is that she’s stopped complaining about how slow her laptop is, and openly says she finds it easier to use.

Most of the troubleshooting is going to be around office software and games. It’s also going to be about replacing windows tools (I am really going to miss my “.bat cave”), and learning new troubleshooting skills (wine is a bit rough to troubleshoot unless you’re willing to get your mining gear out and dig deep into logs).

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Mint

I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

HexesofVexes,

So, oddly enough, I’m not a complete novice. My background is mostly just lubuntu, puppy, mint and a bit of debian. I’ve shifted away from Ubuntu after the pro service ads in terminal, and the absolute fucking nightmare that is snap.

I’ve done my time in “oh shit I fucked up Linux again” purgatory, and it’s my daily driver for work. Terminal is a place I’m generally ok with; I know enough to find my way around and fix things as needed.

My issue is I’ve never really run dedicated graphics from a Linux distro, and because of the continual updates and proprietary elements I worry about keeping up. I don’t mind breaking things, it comes with the territory.

That said, bazzite sounds interesting - especially the optimisation. The guides on the main page also alerted me to something I’d not considered - going to have to redo my filesystem on every drive. Thanks for the idea of an alt distro, will dig into this a bit more - if it’s built in fedora I might have a bit of a learning curve (never used it as a distro).

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

Again, infinite free troubleshooting if you run into any issues, feel free to message me! I’ve given a bunch of people bazzite at this point, and can run you through just about anything.

Make sure not to accidentally choose “steam gaming mode”, on the download since that’ll turn it into basically a steam-deck interface.

Goretantath, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I literally just swapped my key for my win10 pc’s to win10 ltsc iot with mass and now dont have to worry for wayy longer. I suggest everyone without the option to switch to do the same.

cryptid,

What

ILikeBoobies,

They bought the long term commercial version of Windows 10 instead of upgrading to 11 or Linux.

They suggested other people do the same

cryptid,

Thank you, I just couldn’t make my brain wake me up inside

Shard,

Call my name and save me from the dark

kazerniel,
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

“bought” is an interesting word choice when they used massgrave :D

robdor, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Where’s that steam os release

EarlGrey,

If you want SteamOS there are plenty of options that are effectively the exact same thing but with a different name.

robdor,

I tried a few but couldn’t get them to work. I think the issue was my 1080ti GPU. I did get one of the other recommended Debian kde plasma builds installed and that one is looking nice. I was having issues with getting the same games to run that work on my steam deck. Probably just need to spend more time on it.

EarlGrey,

SteamOS-like distributions probably aren’t for you right now. nvidia has massively improved over the year but it’s still not on par with AMD.

Using an immutable distro (which Steam OS and its kind are) is just going to complicate things. Your easiest bet is using a distro that will install the correct drivers at install, like pop_os or mint.

redwattlebird, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Going to migrate to Bazzite. Just need a free weekend to do it.

Bakkoda,

100% worth it. I’ve had a few issues early on but I’m rocking oldish hardware (6700k, 2080 ti). It’s been rock solid for the last 6 months though. A lot of games that ran semi poorly in Windows run great now (Control and Arkham Knight def come to mind) and some cpu heavy bullet hell style games slow to a crawl now much earlier on (I can get sub 20 fps real quick in Rogue Genesia).

Bimfred,

The basics (getting the OS installed, some initial settings to your liking etc) is quick. Managed to go from “completely untouched build” to “we gaming on Linux now boys” in a couple hours and most of that was waiting for BG3 to download on my 100Mbit connection. Pretty much everything I needed worked right on the first boot. Then again, I didn’t have much data to transfer over.

Hazelnutcookiez, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

My old as hell PC died I’m getting a steam deck as a replacement with a dock and …so I’ll just be dual booting into windows 11 and obviously steam OS when I decide to play hand held.

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