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Nexy, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them
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I started playing only arcade games for some months now and I’m so happy, this games are just gameplay and nothing more!

Kayday, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

They have a skill floor that you need to overcome, usually early on. Once you do that, the formula for the rest of the game follows suit.
Bloodborne is my favorite souls game. If you find it too challenging, I’d recommend watching some let’s plays which can have great advise. I don’t typically watch his channel, but Jacksepticeye has a really informative playthrough. He’s beaten the game so many times that he mostly just shows you the cheesy speed run methods for boss fights, however.

Fidel_Cashflow, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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I feel like, if you’re going to play a souls game for the first time you should play Elden Ring, because it’s the kind of game that’s only as hard as you want it to be. Elden Ring is in this interesting spot of being open world, meaning that if a particular boss or area is too challenging, you can fuck off and do something else for a bit, then come back when you’re better leveled/better geared/more practiced etc. I feel like you don’t really get this with other souls games, which are more linear in their structure.

that said, I don’t think any souls game is really an insurmountable challenge, especially Bloodborne. sure, you might suck when you first start it, but once you get the hang of the combat, dodging, etc you should be fine.

metaStatic, do gaming w GG no re
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saigot, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

Return of the obra dinn

I feel like it’s a game to be played in one long go, so I’m waiting for the right time.

sharkfucker420, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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Tbh, no. I suck at like 90% of games, just genuinely not good at them. I excel in soulslikes, you really won’t know how difficult it is for you until you try it. I think the games are built in a way where, should you use all the games mechanics, they are relatively easy but if you don’t use all the mechanics they can get hard

Xatolos, do gaming w (not) shipping gaming PCs
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Double check prices first. I moved from Canada to the Euro and all electronics are about 20% more expensive here (when converting the currency). Including from the companies website (Google, Microsoft, Apple) so it’s not just a third party raising prices issue.

frank,

Oh that’s a great call. I’ll have to look and find the balance here between ship and buy.

2ugly2live, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?
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They can be hard. I’ve tried Bloodborne, Elden Ring, and Sekiro. I got the furthest in Sekiro and kind of got the draw because, man, the high when you finished a boss. But the struggle, from my understanding, is part of the gameplay itself, part of the experience. It was too unforgiving for me. While I was happy finishing a boss, I didn’t go into the next one excited for the challenge, I was dreading the upcoming hours of banging my head against the wall, so I just decided it wasn’t for me. That part of the game play just wasn’t appealing to me, doesn’t mean it’s bad of course.

I say give it a try! They always have Bloodborne on sale, nothing wrong with trying and deciding it’s not for you, and it’ll be awesome of it is!

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

I don’t think its so much the microtransactions as it is games with a highly competitive spirit. PvP games in particular. I don’t find myself having any negative feelings after playing a game like Zenless Zone Zero or Goddess of Victory NIKKE, but after about two matches of Dead by Daylight, a game with a notoriously toxic playerbase, I definitely feel worse than before I play, particularly if the matches do not go well for me.

Im the kind of player that doesn’t spend money unless I feel like something provides me value. Ive played ZZZ since release and haven’t spent a single cent, and NIKKE since its release and only spent $25 total. I have enough self-control to handle those games and can spot bad value in games like gacha games pretty fast. So for me it isn’t really about microtransactions, its definitely about competition with other players, and interactions with them. Playing a game of DBD, winning, and then having everyone (usually TTV streamers) call you names in chat or on their stream and report/mercilessly harrass you ( for winning in a video game, mind you) is a completly different level of toxic that I doubt many would be able to properly handle long term.

Its why I pretty much never recommend DBD to people.

Buttflapper,

I don’t find myself having any negative feelings after playing a game like Zenless Zone Zero

I agree with the rest of what you said but this part is crazy. Gacha games are so heavily monetized it’s wild. I played zenless as well up until a few weeks ago, that game is such a trash can. I used every single currency that I had earned in the entire game and couldn’t get The character I wanted. Some people spend as much as $2,000 on the game just trying to get a single character. That kind of gambling is even worse than what I’m talking about

RightHandOfIkaros,

Well the issue is that some people confuse a want for a need.

Wanting characters is great but the problem comes from being disappointed that you didn’t get what you want as fast as you thought you should. The true method of playing a gacha game is like running a marathon, its not a race and you take it slow. Play in your free time, down time, whatever. I don’t play those games as my main game, just as a side game. Sometimes I miss a day for the login or a special event or even a character that I really wanted but at the end of the day, its just a video game and I am not going to die without that thing or character I wanted. If I get it, its simply a bonus to the joy I get from playing the game already. I don’t play a game long if I don’t have fun with it at least more than when I don’t.

Some people don’t have self control, and I am not saying that the games are not monetized in a predatory way. But I view it no different from actual gachapon: capsule toys. You know, like a gumball machine, but the little plastic ball that has a random small toy or stickers inside. You pay, turn the knob, and you always win something, you just don’t know what. To me, I dont consider that the same as gambling like with a slot machine. That’s just my opinion, and I sure I am in the minority with that, and with my overall attitude towards gacha games in general.

Buttflapper,

Any lottery style game (let’s be honest, Gacha = Lottery) is psychologically harmful in my opinion because it trains you to gamble, there’s no other way around it. These games purposefully condition you to spend currency that you’ve earned, lose majorly, and then get rushes of dopamine when you finally win. They are designed to keep you wanting more. If you think I’m making this up, then read Got ya!: The Psychology of Gacha Addiction

Gacha games have mastered the art of making us eagerly anticipate each draw, activating our brain’s reward system and flooding us with dopamine — the pleasure neurotransmitter. It’s the chemical cocktail that keeps us engaged, excited, and coming back for more. Next on the list is the ‘just one more try’ mentality

There’s nothing remotely healthy about this at all, which runs completely contrary to what my personal goals are

RightHandOfIkaros,

Well as I said, it is my opinion and I have the self-control to be able to play and enjoy gacha games without being financially irresponsible. When I pull for a character in a gacha game, for example, I just skip the animation to go directly to the results. Not only is it faster but it also bypasses the “anticipation building” that the animation and sound effects create. I am glad you have learned for yourself how to have better mental health, but I am saying for me its not about MTX, its more about competition or competitive style games.

Don’t get me wrong, I still play competitive games. I love me some Battlefield 4, Forza Motorsport, Dead By Daylight (when the people I play against decide to not be serial harrassers), and others. Its just that I try to view it differently. Again, its only a video game and at the end of the day, I am not going to die over anything in the game, winning or losing or whatever. It can sometimes make me feel bad when I have a long losing streak or if I get harrassed, but when that happens I just turn off that game for a week or two and play something else. I don’t have to go to the extreme of uninstalling, but I can understand that some do and that’s totally fine.

JoYo, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them
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i just started playing on Ascension wow private server.

their take on classless is so nice.

HubertManne, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

I honestly suck. Im a nerd Xer who played games with my real gamer friend but I played but was only like ok. I played elden ring and expected to drop it but found it fun. I think its very much perspective. I treat it as more an exploration game and story where death is just a mechanic. Your basically supposed to die over and over. That made it fine for me. Its like I hate pvp but I played a pvp mmo awhile back called shadowbane and initially I hated it but then I just sorta switched my perspective to view the griefers as just really hard monsters or content and built around it and found it fun enough.

webghost0101, do games w My mental health has improved after deleting games that have microtransactions in them

0 A.D is an free open source age of strategy kind of game. Add it to your collection.

Cadeillac,
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Are you able to elaborate a little bit on age of strategy?

webghost0101,

I had huge age of empire nostalgia vibes,

My friend had the same feeling but age of mythology instead.

Neither of us played the “other” game but we both agreed the sound design in 0ad was almost identical to our different memories.

They are top down strategy games so i sort of gave it this umbrella term. “Age of … “ strategy games

Cadeillac,
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Perfect, thanks so much! I kind of thought this but wanted to make sure. I’m not super familiar with them but have always been curious. Maybe somebody has ported it to Android

fsxylo,

Just randomly browsing Lemmy and I get a whole ass game to check out for free.

drmoodmood, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?
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Pacific Drive for me! Played the demo and it seemed a pretty chill scavenging and driving game. I’ll get to it once I’m done with The Outer Worlds and its DLC.

wccrawford, do gaming w Are souls games really as hard as everyone says?

When I was a kid, Tomb Raider was a pretty easy game, except this one part that required absolutely perfect timing for a some running and jumping between platforms for a bonus item.

At the start, I could make it to the next platform. After a while, I could do 2. Eventually, I got 3. After a long, long time, I finally managed to string all of them together… And screwed up the very last one.

Here’s the thing, though. I got it on the very next attempt. I had learned that sequence so well that it actually wasn’t hard any more, even though it was nearly impossible for me at the start.

Afterwards, my parents (who watched the whole thing) told me they had never seen me focus on something so intently for so long and they couldn’t believe I managed it.

That’s what souls games are, from start to finish. Every single encounter is basically impossible at first, until you die and learn enough to get through it. But you start from the beginning of the game every freaking time.

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

That’s what soloing dungeons in Destiny is like. They’re 3-man activities but can all be done solo if you’ve got the balls. The real trick is a Flawless run, zero deaths. I spent months working on my first Solo Flawless, and once I nailed it, it was as if everything else had gotten easier. Now I can run that dungeon with my eyes closed.

I can respect that, even if I’m not a big Souls player. Set a goal, commit to it, and see it through. It’s good practice for life.

wccrawford,

Oh man. There’s only one of those dungeons that I actually like, and I got almost 2/3 through it solo, and decided that I just didn’t care enough. I’m sure I could have done it with enough tries… But ugh. So time consuming.

I totally respect people that do it even once, and people that do it for every dungeon are basically gods.

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

I did Pit of Heresy. Which is debatably the easiest dungeon (Shattered Throne came out earlier, but Pit has Rally flags), but still. I wear the emblem proudly (and have even taught the dungeon to a few newbies). I’ve nearly completed Grasp, and I’ve gotten well into the second boss of Warlord’s solo, but… then I take a long break and play other stuff.

With Prismatic it’s actually much easier to run a good mix of sustain, CC, and DPS in one loadout.

Telorand, do gaming w Which unplayed game in your library are you most looking forward to playing eventually?

Mass Effect Legendary Edition.

Never played ME, before, but I hear it’s pretty good.

averyminya,

My friend loves Mass Effect, he liked the LE quite a bit.

Gerudo,

I’m jealous of a 1st play through. It’s incredible.

Telorand,

That’s what I keep hearing! Looking forward to a good space opera

thingsiplay,

Me too. I have the “old” versions “Mass Effect 2007”, “Mass Effect 2 2010” and “Mass Effect 2 (2010) Edition” (for some reasons there are two versions of old ME2) on Steam and was about to buy Legendary Edition and finally getting started to play. But I’m not happy with the additional requirements of it, as it requires Origin client and an EA account to play this single player game. This is unacceptable to me. Old versions do not require this.

So after my research and being confused of multiple versions and if the Legendary Edition is worth it, lost interest. But ME2 is still on my list to play soon.

termus,
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You can mod the first three to get it close to par with the Legendary edition. The improvements they made in LE on all 3 make it worth playing, but if a user account is your limit I guess not. There are a ton of mods for LE now as well.

thingsiplay,

I play most PC games without modding, especially because I’m on Linux. I’ve compared and read about the improvements, and to its just minimal changes. Only the first game got huge improvements, but I’m more interested into playing 2 only. And as someone playing lot of old games and emulate old systems, its totally fine with me. I even played GTA 4 (last year and this) without modding on PC, but still have to finish it.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Mass Effect is really one of a kind. The first game is the most epic Space Opera that I have ever played/watched. It puts Star Wars and others to shame. They retconned shit in the 2nd and 3rd games so in my opinion the first one remains the best story-wise. But honestly, all three are great.

I am very sad that no other studios tried to do anything even remotely comparable. The closest I can think of is Starfield, which wasn’t very good.

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