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Lucky_777, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

Fuck, I would sign but I’m a piece of shit American.

ProdigalFrog,

Helping spread the word is still an option, and would be greatly appreciated! :D

Drusas, do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?

Don't Starve Together. Fatal flaw: it's too hard for most people to want to play, and you have to play it repeatedly to get any good at it.

ImplyingImplications, do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?

Rocket League. I find myself going back to it because I like the concept but you need to have chat turned off completely and even then the games usually devolve into one or more players throwing a hissy fit a minute into any match because something didn’t go perfectly.

Ghostalmedia, do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Halo

Fatal flaw is that 343 Industries sucked in comparison to Bungie, and released such shitty products that the player base has fallen through the floor.

I miss couch co-op.

charonn0, do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

Left4Dead

Fatal flaw: Versus mode (PvP) with random strangers is almost always awful. Only well-balanced teams of roughly equal skill can have a good time, which is unlikely when playing with randos.

As opposed to the co-op campaigns where it’s OK if some players are better than others because we’re all on the same team and a good player can carry several n00bs.

Kolanaki, (edited ) do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Currently it’s The Finals, though I have been taking a break. I need to fire it back up to see if my biggest issue with it has been fixed… It was the fact that the netcode was garbage and the entire match could be completely out of sync to the point that what you actually see other players doing is nowhere near the reality of what is actually going on in the game.

The dev made a post that they knew about the problem and even identified the cause, but as of the last time I actually played, it hadn’t been fixed yet.

Second place is Crossout. It’s essentially F2P Twisted Metal but you build your own vehicles. The biggest flaw with it is the grind. It takes so much time and rounds played to advance to unlock new parts and earn resources. I’ve been playing for a month and I’m only level 11, and still stuck playing the super basic starting modes until I have enough “PS” to open up the others. 😮‍💨 I think it might actually be P2W with how other players at the same rank can have full blown mechs while I am still stuck with the shittiest car parts going off the normal, free level of progression.

Then again, it also had ABSOLUTELY NO TUTORIAL beyond the basics of driving your car. It doesn’t explain any of the menus, how to build, how to share, etc. I could just be missing something.

tetris11, do gaming w What is your personal favorite multiplayer game and what is it's fatal flaw?
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Bonk.io, fatal flaw is that the dev simply does not a give a fuck.

By that I mean:

  • Nazis everywhere, mostly edgelord kids.
    • You just ignore their chat, or compliment them only on their game, and soon they stop with the toxic chatter or leave the room.
  • Script mods that expose parts of the game
    • Could be easily mitigated, but everyone has them.
    • It’s not cheating, you can just see more.
  • Sometimes a hardcore hentai image appears on the welcome screen.
    • 1/500 occurence.
    • Rare enough that you’re not sure it happened.
  • No mobile support, despite hardware.not being an issue.
    • Just needs a virtual controller stick

Such a great game otherwise

Asafum, do gaming w Did you even try?

It’s as easy as taking a switch 2 from a baby!

…exactly like that as a matter of fact.

son_named_bort,

Didn’t work out well for Mr. Burns.

rustyfish, (edited ) do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck that. I’m sending this to everyone I know. Gamer or not. Common sense alone demands a signature.

Edit: This far 2 gamers finally put their signatures on it and 4 non gamers went with it too. So with me we’re at 7 signatures.

I did my part. But I think it won’t be enough. Yes, after Ross spoke up every content creator and their grandparents started shitting in Pirates mouth and is advertising the petition like crazy. But sadly these kind of things are a bit circle jerky and will be watched by the same people.

insaneinthemembrane,

Exactly. Some of my best friends are gamers.

cRazi_man, do games w A retro gaming handheld console has been amazing for me and I want to recommend it
@cRazi_man@europe.pub avatar

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Shotgun_Alice, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

Signing it now just to spite piratesoftware.

Nythos,

I watched critical’s update on him and my fucking god is piratesoftware such an arrogant twat

EncryptKeeper,

I’ve been served PirateSoftware’s shorts long before all this controversy and it always bugged me how confidently wrong he was about systems and network things. He seems to be under the impression that he understands these things on an advanced level due to his experience as a checks notes QA tester for Blizzard, and a… indie software developer lol.

All this backlash against him is so vindicating.

Lightsong,

ELI5 this controversy? I’m out of the loop.

EncryptKeeper,

youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0

There’s a group with a petition to “Stop Killing Games” which seeks to legally remedy the issue of game developers making games that are later turned off and left unplayable even in the case of them being single player.

Thor of PirateSoftware owns a development outfit that makes indie games and he also does a lot of streams. He’s against Stop Killing Games, but doesn’t seem to even understand it, and has publicly spoke out against it, going so far as to spread misinformation about it.

turmacar,

Have also been out of the loop too but went through the know your meme page.

Pirate Software made a video a year ago criticizing the initiative on a very surface level and has continued to do so in streams. Guy who created/sponsored/however-that-works the initiative posted a counter-argument video talking about what the initiative would actually do. Pirate Software did the ol’ Internet Doubledown and in general was kind of an ass and kind of revealed some ignorance. Cue Youtube Drama.

brsrklf, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

I’ve been hearing about this for so long I honestly can’t remember whether I’ve already signed it.

Gonzako,

Not an issue! Just try signing in again and it won’t add it if you already signed

brsrklf,

Just tried, turns out I had already signed it.

drspawndisaster,

As an American who can’t bear to play most online games because they might go down or disallow Linux users, please please please please check. EU laws are our only hope of having usable fucking technology.

The thought of being able to mod and host my own GTA 5 online server when it goes down, without some weird custom server mod that also uses Windows-exclusive anti-cheat on most servers, sounds like a damn dream. I miss that game… but fuck Windows, nothing is worth installing Windows. I just realized I’ve been ranting about the lack of Linux compatibility of GTA 5 Online in reply to someone’s comment about how this petition has gone on for a while. I swear I wasn’t hijacking your comment, I just have strong feelings about Linux gaming and got carried away.

Vince, do gaming w Did you even try?

Haven’t checked since launch, is it still hard to find?

beben_egg,

Just picked one up from gamestop, and it was the only one available from any store within the last two weeks in a 50 mile radius.

Vince,

Sounds like I’ll still be waiting then, thanks.

FinalRemix,

The systems weren’t hard to find on day 1. The overpriced accessories were all sold out, though.

PieMePlenty, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

Drama drives these things. I totally understand Ross not wanting to engage in it 10 months ago but look at what it can do.

NuXCOM_90Percent, (edited )

Yeah. It has rapidly turned an initiative that was already unnecessarily combative toward devs (fuck the publishers though) and associated it with harassment and review bombing games that are actually Doing It Right just because they worked with the wrong third party studio. Not to mention all the “Well, we don’t agree with everything asmongold says, but let’s call a truce so long as he is gonna let us play our video games”

And… honestly? I have disliked thor since LONG before all y’all realized he isn’t the world’s best WoW player or he has an opinion you don’t like because he was considering things from the perspective of the people who would be doing the work to enact these “simple requirements”.

But it feels REAL fucking everyday normal to watch people immediately go from “the harassment campaign that led to the death of Mikayla Raines was horrible” to “Let’s fucking ruin Pirate Software’s life and attack him and everything he has ever associated with because we are morally righteous”

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s be real here; arrogant twats don’t off themselves. Too much ego.

SolidShake, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

Wow, so that won’t do anything.

ProdigalFrog, (edited )

Very insightful. Thank you for your wisdom.

SolidShake,

You are welcome good sir 😊

sp3ctr4l,

Go back to reddit

FartMaster69,

It does infinitely more than sitting around being a doomer.

SolidShake,

What’s a doomer?

MotoAsh,

Like a boomer, but even less respectable.

SolidShake,

Oh. No I’m a millennial

TheHotze,

Someone believes a cause is doomed from the start, so doesn’t even try.

SolidShake,

Because gaming companies are all greedy fucks. They aren’t going to give a fuck about people’s signatures lmao. You have to not buy the game in the millions. Not sign a website, and still buy the games anyways

RicoBerto,

This isn't a petition like change.org.
It's to get this brought in front of politicians that HAVE to make a ruling based on it.

lime,
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

eu citizens initiatives are official tools of the public to help draft new laws.

Feathercrown,

You speak on matters which you do not understand

MoreZombies,

Ah, like PirateSoftware! :D

sp3ctr4l,

I do find it kind of funny that uh, seemingly this is the situation:

If gamers want to actually, truly, literally RISE UP… and do something useful and good, for once…

They will have to defeat Thor, in online combat.

(The PirateSoftware guy goes by Thor, not sure if thats his real name, a nickname, who knows)

There’s a dumb as shit Marvel knock off fanfic plot line in here somewhere.

Hadriscus,

I assume by “gaming companies” you mean game publishers. No they won’t care, in fact this initiative is not meant for them. It is meant for EU lawmakers, which after a certain signature number threshold are required to look at the issue. Once a protection is written into law, these same companies have to, of course, comply with it, or face whatever consequences were prepared for this case (fines, probably).

echodot,

Oh come on you can’t actually be that dense. I don’t know if you’ve noticed but there are these things called laws and companies have to follow them.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

This is not a change.org petition. This is a European initiative. Meaning if this gets the necessary number of signatures this could get brought forth to the European Parliament, where laws on the subject can get negotiated over.

sp3ctr4l,

Its not a meaningless web petition.

It’s a formal, direct democracy style legal process in the EU, to get the relevant legal authorities to review and revise the laws that currently allow gaming companies to be greedy fucks.

A similar concept exists in many US states amd cities:

If enough signatures can be gathered in a defined amount of time, then the proposed legal concept that has been directly endorsed by enough citizens then is automatically either pushed to the legislators and courts to review, or to be included for broader democratic voting up or down on by the next local election.

You apparently have no idea that initiatives and petitons can be more than just a legally non binding, essentially useless virtue signals on some random website.

In many, many parts of the world, something like an initiative serves as a way for the citizens of an area to bypass their own representatives and force them to directly engage with an issue.

If this initiative crosses the threshold, it stands s good chance at reforming the laws around games as a consumer product, from a consumer rights point of view.

Governments do actually have the ability to restrain and modify the actions and practices of corporations, by altering the laws that define what they are and are not allowed to do.

Further, because the EU has so many people, is such a large market for games… there is a good chance that if the EU reforms what game companies are allowed to do within the EU… well, developing an entirely different game for the EU and the US, totally different in the underlying internal design, more than just translstion/localization… from a business POV, it may end up making more financial sense to not essentially develop two games at once, and instead just develop a single, global game, that is compliant with with EU laws.

Go look into how digital privacy laws being different between the EU and US and other parts of the world are currently, right now, forcing many US based tech firms to alter their practices within the EU, and sometimes even in the US and elsewhere, due to the propagation effect of a huge market altering its laws.

Another example of something like this is firearms in the US: California, and now several other US states, have passed laws stating that for certain kinds of guns, a magazine can hold no more than 10 rounds.

Prior to this, when such laws did not exist… not many firearm companies made and sold guns with only 10 round mags. Now, many of them actually do.

This has also occured at a Federal level with barrel length restrictions: Basically, you cannot sell a civillian a short barelled rifle, something that has a barrel less than 16 inches in length, or a total butt stock to tip of barrel length less than 26 inchds.

Before those laws were passed… you could buy those, companies could sell those.

But because a compact, higher powered rifle is the easiest thing to use in a confined space, for something like a school shooting… well, now all the guns have to be at least a bit bigger, so that they’re more difficult to use in a ‘moving from room to hallway to room’ kind of scenario.

Laws passed by governments can alter industry practices, thats the entire concept of regulation.

Laws and legal review processes can be formally initiated within a government by formal, legal, citizens initiatives, that’s the entire point of them.

ijedi1234,

Someone born within the years 1992-1995. You can spot 'em easy.

loonsun,

I feel attacked, I’m doing my best 😭

voytrekk,

It is better to try and fail than to not try at all.

Klear,

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

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Owlboi,

you do realize this isnt some dumb online petition but rather a official citizens initiative to create new laws, right?

actually you clearly dont realize that.

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