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youngalfred, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Choice to do what?

These are their two points:

Private servers are not always a viable alternative option for players as the protections we put in place to secure players’ data, remove illegal content, and combat unsafe community content would not exist and would leave rights holders liable. In addition, many titles are designed from the ground-up to be online-only; in effect, these proposals would curtail developer choice by making these video games prohibitively expensive to create.

I feel like the first is fair enough at the moment, but with accompanying laws it could be resolved. Eg once a developer enacts an end of life plan, their legal culpability is removed. Plus give the right tools for moderation and the community can take care of it.

Second is just a cop out I think. “Many titles are designed from the ground up to be online only” - that’s the whole point. It’s not retroactive, so you don’t need to redesign an existing game. But going forward you would need to plan for the eventual end of life. Developers have chimed in that it can be done.

nous,

once a developer enacts an end of life plan, their legal culpability is removed What legal culpability? If you are not hosting anything then you wont be liable for anything. It is not like if you create a painting and someone defaces it with something that you become liable for that… That would be insane.

Renacles, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

Gamepass is going to continue betting worse until we end up with the mess that are streaming services right now.

I sincerely hope it fails.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It has plateaued some time ago now. That’s not failure, but it’s not about to become Netflix either.

Wawe,
@Wawe@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. Right now developers get good deals when adding their games to game pass and the game pass is pretty cheap, but after game passes become “the thing” and developers have to be in a game pass, it will get worse for developers and consumers.

Surp, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Good so that means they won’t pre plan bullshit games that are money grabs destined to fail. Go fuck yourselves companies that do that.

PartyAt15thAndSummit, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

1.2 million as of now. So fucking proud to be European.

Toneswirly, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Lol publishers curtail developer choice, gtfo

Deestan, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Muh business model :'(

AGD4, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

I’m not very inclined to take at face value what a studio founder has to say about a service that might make them less money, and might save their customers money.

Nobody is forcing studios or publishers at gunpoint to release on a subscription service.

HK65,

Yeah but on the other hand the dumping business model where you sell stuff below cost to kill competition has been a staple of Silicon Valley.

Amd I’d rather the studio earn more money than the publisher in any case.

villainy,

Nobody is forcing studios or publishers at gunpoint to release on a subscription service.

Except for the hilarious number of studios owned by Microsoft. One would hope Microsoft takes the effect of Game Pass into account when they’re reviewing sales figures and shutting down studios. One would hope…

Plebcouncilman,

The number may be high but it’s an almost insignificant proportion of the industry. There’s no industry pressure to be on Gamepass.

EnsignWashout,

There’s no industry pressure to be on Gamepass, yet.

Microsoft doesn’t willingly lose money on something unless they think they can make it into a market distorting rent extraction hellscape. something very profitable later.

Plebcouncilman,

A) it’s already profitable, as per Phil. Unless you think he’s misleading shareholders there’s no reason to doubt that claim. B) they would never be able to buy enough studios to create industry pressure to be on GP, it’s just not possible and the service would crumble under its own weight

Sibbo, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Ah, the propaganda war has started.

Klear,

That’s good news. Means the initiative has a shot.

It was disquieting back when they were just flat out ignoring it.

Sibbo,

They were probably thinking that by openly opposing it before it collected enough signatures, they would have given it more publicity and hence made more people sign it.

MentalEdge, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

You are being stopped from stopping people playing their games.

That’s a double negative bruh, as in, it reduces overrall limitations in the world for what people are allowed to do.

leftzero, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Of course it’s limiting your options!

Screwing up the customer should not be an option you’re allowed to take!

LifeInMultipleChoice, do gaming w [Ended] [Steam Key Giveaway] 3x Stardew Valley to give away

Not sure why I haven’t played it, does anyone know if it has co-op across platforms? Like if I install it on a linux distro will I be able to join a spouse who is playing on her Xbox or Windows?

My spouse says I never played because the aliens invaded and subsequently abducted me.

YouShouldSeeMyAlt,

There is cross-platform play between PC (including Linux and Mac) and mobile devices (iOS and Android). For other platforms like Nintendo Switch and Xbox, crossplay is not available, meaning you can only play with others on the same console

You should be able to play co-op across PCs regardless of OS but console versions are not cross compatible.

LifeInMultipleChoice,

Thanks for this info, I installed Medieval Dynasty the other day trying to play co-op with her. Unfortunately couldn’t join, I assume because I didn’t have a legitimate version. Hers was paid for but I had just torrented mine in attempt to play locally. Was hoping I didn’t have to pay for a game twice to play together .

Saurok,

I’ve played it on Linux Mint while some friends were on Windows, didn’t have any issues :)

IsThisAnAI, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

I love renting games. Worked for me at block buster 🤷‍♂️.

DaddleDew, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Corporate jargon translation:

“It’s going to limit innovation” = “We won’t be able to use those new ways of ripping off our customers anymore”

maxwells_daemon, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

“Developers” are the ones who are passionate about the games they make, and definitely don’t want their games dead.

“Corporations” are the ones who only want to profit from selling the game, and then ditch it once it’s no longer lucrative enough.

whostosay, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

I like how this prophecy was foretold a clean 1 week after this shit really went downhill. Who could’ve thunk Microsoft would be a shitty money grubbing whore?

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