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MeaanBeaan, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Mine hasn’t gotten much use lately because the steamdeck itself has indirectly usurped it but man I love my steam controller. It’s genuinely the best controller ever made for certain types of games. I find it very difficult to play FPS games without it (or the steamdeck) due to getting so used to gyro aiming with the capacitive touch sensors. My only real gripe with it is the subpar build quality. They’ve learned a lot since then in terms of hardware manufacturing so I can’t wait for them to put out a new steam controller.

dualpad,

My dream steam controller 2 would be the steam controller layout with the large circular concave touchpads in the top most position, better bumpers, two extra bumper buttons like the 8bitdo, 4 back buttons in total, alpakka quality gyro, and nice premium feeling material used for the shell.

But, they’ll go with the Steam Deck layout if there is one, which unfortunately has not been good for using touchpads as primary inputs for my hands. Which has me hording Steam Controllers, since it’ll likely be the only dual touchpad focused controller around. And hoping Alpakka comes out with a standalone gyro module I can stick on the Steam Controller to at least have the gyro component updated.

dipcart, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I’ve had a PS5. Gave it away. I still have an Xbox. I don’t even know if its plugged in. The steam deck got me back into gaming in a way that I haven’t been in years. I feel like a kid again with the amazement of a piece of technology that can entertain me the way the steam deck can. I even bought a dbrand skin for it just because I love it so much. I’m playing prototype 2 and my fiancee is playing baldurs gate. When we have money we want to buy another one so we don’t have to share lol

vxx,

It’s a brillant device, I often use it more than my PC.

It gives me the feeling that playing the Gameboy as a kid gave me. The switch would only make my hands cramp because the controls are only made for small hands.

EncryptKeeper, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I’m struggling to wrap my head around how a controller without two joysticks is supposed to word in the year of our lord 2025

sugar_in_your_tea,

It has two trackpads, which can be used as an alternative to joysticks. It’s actually kinda cool since it kind of works like a mouse with quick flicks and whatnot.

AlfredoJohn,

Eh I am not a big fan of the track pads, I have them on my deck and the only real useful ness for them is having them emulate a mouse in games so I can use a mouse for ui navigation instead of the joysticks or dpad. Having to constantly readjust my thumbs to keep moving in a direction and lack of ability for smooth continuos motion just makes them super impractical

sugar_in_your_tea,

I don’t like them either, but that’s because I prefer the feel of joysticks, not because of any functional reason. For the Steam Controller trackpads, you don’t need to readjust anything, you just hold in the direction you want the camera to be changing, just like a joystick, and they’re massive so you have a lot of range of motion for controlling speed.

It’s a different feel than on the Steam Deck, so I can totally see someone liking the SC trackpads and not the SD ones.

AlfredoJohn,

Ah that makes sense, I’ve never tried the SC so I just assumed they worked in a similar manner to the decks track pads. I think I would still probably prefer joysticks but now I can see the appeal for some regarding how the SC track pads work.

dualpad,

If you are curious here is some of my gameplay video in games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, The Finals, etc.

Was the first controller that allowed me to completely drop aim assist for good and not feel slow against PC players and offer keyboard like functionality for input swapping.

I just assumed they worked in a similar manner to the decks track pads.

By the way I don’t like the Steam Deck trackpads either since I found trying to use them as primary inputs in place of joysticks like on the Steam Controller was not ergonomic for my hands,and camera swipes weren’t as consistent on squares compared to concave circular pads. So on the Steam Deck despite wishing I could use the touchpads I opt for joysticks. So I don’t really see Deck touchpads as a good endorsement for using as primary inputs, since even I can’t find myself using it like the SC.

EncryptKeeper,

That’s sounds truly awful lol

sugar_in_your_tea,

Some people really like it, especially combined w/ the gyro. I think it’s fine, I just prefer the feel of joysticks.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Understand the Steam Controller came out 10 years ago and was meant to be used in the decade or two prior to that when “real PC games” didn’t support gamepads. Contrast that with today where CRPGs and RTSes often have official bindings.

There are two ways to use a trackpad. The first is to swipe (like a laptop trackpad) and the second is press and hold. For the former, the delta between where your thumb is and where it was is used to translate to cursor movement. For the latter, think of it like an analog stick. The center of the trackpad is 0 and your input is the delta between 0 and the location of your thumb at this moment.

So press and hold lets it emulate an analog stick and swiping is very useful for moving a cursor on the screen. And there are/were plenty of ways to switch between the modes on the fly.

MellowYellow13,

For real it looks like complete garbage. Joysticks are good, not bad. I’ll take a Playstation controller any day over this shit

Sabata11792,

I have one somewhere. The right track pad can work like a joystick, but without the physicality and feedback it just was awkward and unpleasant. Using tracking as a mouse also felt off whenever you needed any sort of precision. Right track pad/dpad seemed to be impossible to click just right to press a direction without also activating the trackpad mappings sending both inputs at once or the wrong one. I could not really get use to it and forgot about it in a box somewhere.

Didn’t hate it, just couldn’t find a use that mouse and keyboard couldn’t cover enough to get a feel for it.

dualpad,

If you are curious here is some of my gameplay video in games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, The Finals, etc.

Was the first controller that allowed me to completely drop aim assist for good and not feel slow against PC players and offer keyboard like functionality for input swapping.

Jakeroxs, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I was really hoping they’d release a next generation with some of the issues I read online ironed out.

Fiivemacs, do gaming w EA Connect. How do I get in contact with a real Human?? Need Support.

I refuse to even pirate their trashy games.

Fuzzypyro, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I love my steam controllers. Surprisingly where they shined best for me was in racing games. Single joystick was enough for steering. Trackpad+gyro was great for flicking to look around and if there is nos or boost in the game I would always map it to the button for full press on the trigger. Legitimately not an experience you could replicate with any other controller.

prole, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

Don’t know if it’s due to not playing games, but why tf is motion blur almost always on by default?

curiousaur, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I have 2. I absolutely love it. I prefer it for playing 3rd person games like the witcher and monster hunter too. I like the granular control and momentum for panning around the world.

I bought the second one for $5 when valve was doing the discontinuation liquidation sale. Someone commented that the Vive wands use the same track pads and other parts, so it’s a no brainer to buy one to have the parts on hand. At this point the Vive wands are extra parts for keeping my steam controllers going.

Ptsf, do gaming w Fuck you, Tom

Unscheduled home upgrade time ;)

brucethemoose, (edited ) do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

My sister still has a working one that she treats like a religious artifact, as it’s the best way to play mouse/KB games from the sofa.

I see why they discontinued them though. They need custom configs for most games, and I think most people don’t like that much tweaking.

ECB, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I loooove my steam controller for first-person games. The right track pad for camera controls just clicks with me. I guess it’s because I’m a PC gamer first and foremost, so I’m used to mouse-like aiming rather than the analog-style stick aiming.

I never really used the left track pad though…

That being said, I was let down by the steam deck trackpads. Maybe I just have big hands, but I could never use the right track pad the same way I do with the steam controller.

Also a general comment: AA/AAA is the best if you get some rechargable batteries. No waiting for charging when something is out of juice! Plus you can just get a new set of batteries if they ever die instead of a whole new controller

BigBananaDealer, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

this thing looks like an abomination to mankind

WILSOOON, do gaming w [EatMyPaint] All grown up

Eject them too

ipitco, do gaming w Fuck you, Tom

He is the figure of capitalism

finitebanjo, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

Behold! The perfect controller layout, from the far future:

spoilerhttps://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fdafc80c-adae-49d0-8df0-dc0bb359e3fe.jpeg

Blackmist,

It’s weird how quickly Sony discovered the perfect layout and how little it’s changed since.

Analogue triggers are the only really great addition since the original Dual Shock.

The gyro aim on the PS5 (well technically all the way back to the PS3, only not as good) are actually really nice too, but I can count the games that use it on one hand. I’ve no idea why devs are so adverse to using them.

The PS4/5 touch pad would be OK if it wasn’t just used as a giant Select button, because for some reason the actual Select button is now “Share” which literally nobody ever asked for.

slaneesh_is_right,

If only it wasn’t made for tiny hands.

Blackmist,

You’re an original Xbox controller kind of guy aren’t you?

From the PS4 onwards they did at least acknowledge that most people don’t have tiny child-sized hands, and that most consoles are bought by adults.

finitebanjo,

But you can reach all the middle buttons without changing grip.

raker,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7394223a-57b1-4316-ba06-9a00fa615e78.jpegCan confirm. Mine is about 22 years old. Unfortunately the USB adapter isn’t working anymore.

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