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Katana314, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development

I’ll first admit I predicted Valve wasn’t bothering with a Steam Machine again. I was proven wrong.

But I still absolutely don’t see it being more popular than the Steam Deck. They don’t have the production scale to make them at the Xbox / PlayStation hardware-per-dollar values, so they’ll still be an enthusiast item for people aware they’re buying a prebuilt PC.

So yes, you do already see this; indies target the Steam Deck as a supreme metric for Linux compatibility (and if someone complains HDR doesn’t work on his desktop Mint install, well, whatever). Valve even promotes some store presence to indies that do a bit of work to certify this. We’ve seen lots of games get patches mentioning Steam Deck related fixes - even when the game is a windows build using Proton.

Reygle,
@Reygle@lemmy.world avatar

I personally hope you’re wrong again. I think the level of hype should provide a huge stack of orders early on, and I think SteamOS is now SO good that this could go to the moon after the honeymoon period.

Time will tell where between you and I it winds up.

Prove_your_argument, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development

I wish this was a likely outcome but realistically steam hardware is too small a userbase. They are most likely to get performance profiles for their hardware due to the standardization and free steam marketing of compatibility, but windows users are still a supermajority.

teawrecks,

Steam hardware has so far been pretty niche, though. If the user experience is smooth enough, a SM could replace many people’s xbox/playstation.

We’re like 5y into the PS5/XBSX, new games are jumping up to $70-100 each, and hardly any are platform exclusives. Msft have all but canceled the next Xbox, and if Sony tries to push the PS6 in a few years, I think there’s a world where a good chunk of people say nah.

And with the amount of attention Linux is getting from the win10 eol, we could be at the beginning of an historic inflection point in gaming.

GreyCat,

If only they invested in a big marketing push world-wide. They have the money for it.

But they might just not care about being that popular in hardware.

Prove_your_argument,

They’re marketing where it matters, to people who use their platform.

They sent out all the demo units for reviewers to hit the wider gaming audience on PC.

This stuff is never gonna convert console users who don’t already have steam accounts.

ChicoSuave, do gaming w Don't make me choose!

Between those two? SMW. Of all Mario games? That’s a much more interesting question.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world avatar

Personal preference, but if you asked me "of all Mario games", it would also come down to a decision between these two.

Soggy,

I realize it’s comparing apples to oranges but Paper Mario and Odyssey have to be in the discussion.

king_comrade,

Is no one in this thread going to mention Sunshine? Clearly the best SM game without a doubt

Soggy,

Sunshine had some cool ideas and introduced Bowser Jr. but I wouldn’t put it over Galaxy or Odyssey as a 3D platformer.

king_comrade,

Why would you rank those two as better platformers? I reckon FLUDD introduced a lot of fun ways to solve the level puzzles and the hub world is the best designed next to Mario 64.

Soggy,

FLUDD is pretty well done but, pun unintended, they still hadn’t nailed the fluidity of movement that the later titles have. (The existence of a hub world is pretty neutral for me, they mostly serve as a way to soft tutorial the controls.)

king_comrade,

I think you’re right with odyssey, that game played beautifully but galaxy (the first one at least) felt as jank if not more jank than sunshine. The wiimote never felt good for platforming and the switch adaptation also struggles with awkward camera angles.

Soggy,

Totally fair! Personally I found the gravity stuff more interesting than the FLUDD mechanics but they definitely feel different and I can’t dispute the camera struggle.

king_comrade,

Bro I love Mario games hey, think it’s time for yet another replay.

Aggravationstation,

For this, SMW. Of all time? SMB2 on Gameboy.

ekZepp, do games w Valves first title with a 3 in it
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Is just an uwu face :3

ComradePenguin, do games w Day 485 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Thanks for your service! Always interesting to read ylur posrs about games

BlameTheAntifa, do games w Valves first title with a 3 in it

I’m hoping that that ARM support on the new VR headset means a Steam Phone may be in the works.

bjoern_tantau,
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I give it five to ten years.

Flamekebab, do games w Day 484 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

I felt like the modern sections were starting to fulfil what had been promised throughout the series. Then they just slam the door on that. Blech.

Also agreed on length. I’m not planning to play Valhalla because I don’t want a second job.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

When Valhalla released I got a copy because I hadn’t played an AC game since Syndicate and thought a Viking one would be fun. I decided to go in blind. I got maybe 30 hours in and checked how far along I was after stopping and going “no way the story is that long”, and nope. It is that long.

I was going to return it but never got around to it. Both my younger brothers ended up playing it through to completion though, so I suppose it found a home at least

BreakerSwitch,

Wasn’t Valhalla the one that had “time saver” microtransactions?

CobaltMetropolis, do games w Day 484 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
@CobaltMetropolis@lemmy.world avatar

These modern day sequences are gorgeous this one you posted about the under construction skyscraper also the one that takes place in Brazil, it’s just spectacular, epic and action filled missions

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

The Skyscraper and Brazil ones are the most memorable ones too me. I briefly remember the final one too but only really a section where you’re climbing around in rafters.

CobaltMetropolis,
@CobaltMetropolis@lemmy.world avatar

The modern day action certainly stands up than the ones in previous entries in 3 they have a more important role

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

As big of a fan of the franchise as i am, i’m a bit embarrassed to admit the only game of the first 4 i had played is Revelations and the first half of 1, so i suppose i don’t have much to base it on

qarbone, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development

I think we should see what it’s priced at before we start making proclamations about the Steam Machine being the “standard gaming PC”.

melonhusk, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development
@melonhusk@sh.itjust.works avatar

Steam’s been the indie darling for ages, so another ‘machine’ just means more places to ignore my backlog. It’s a win-win for everyone, especially those dev teams making actual bangers.

doeinthewoods, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development

Steam has been the primary indie platform for games for like 15 years. Xbox had a moment in the early Xbox love arcade but the time the Xbox One came out, it was Steam and it has been ever since especially after Greenlight and early access

paraphrand,

Steam is flooded with indie games, yeah.

Mac,

I thank Xbox Live Arcade for introducing me to Trials HD. Even though the latest game wasn’t the greatest game ever created, the series as a whole has been a joy to experience.

I used to play the flash games of a trials theme and always thought a fleshed oit game would be really cool. i was right. :p

melonhusk, do games w Valves first title with a 3 in it
@melonhusk@sh.itjust.works avatar

looks like gabe finally found his abacus and made it to the third bead. took long enough.

MoreZombies, do games w Steam Machine is huge for indie development

I remember this same discussion point when Valve released the first Steam Machines ten years ago.

Quazatron,
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

Mark it up as an advantage of getting old. You get to sit and eat popcorn while people debate issues you’ve already debated.

I still want to buy one, mind you.

MoreZombies,

Same!

In particular though, I loved my old Steam Controller, and hope this new one compares.
I’d still be using one now if they weren’t all bought by asshole scalpers and marked up 6000%..

ryathal,

The big difference is the compatibility is actually there now. Also, controller support is a lot more common for PC games now.

adavis, do games w Valves first title with a 3 in it
  • Steam OS v3
  • 3 products announced today
  • steam machine is a cube. Cube is three dimensions.

Half life 3, Team Fortresses 3, Left 4 Dead 3?

themusicman,

One of the shots of the steam machine had a “SoonTM” sticker

Malix,
@Malix@sopuli.xyz avatar

portal 3

Dalkor,

Dota 3

mirshafie,

Please no I’m trying to live a normal, happy life.

plateee,
@plateee@piefed.social avatar

steam machine is a cube

Or would you say it looks like a box… Maybe an Orange Box!?!

I’m calling it - a limited release where the black shell is orange and it comes bundled with HL3 for free.

Creosm,
@Creosm@lemmy.world avatar

That would be amazing

BartyDeCanter,

I know you’re joking, and that would be enough to get me to buy one even though I don’t really have a use case for it.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

I still have my boxed copy of the Orange Box on a shelf. It still sees use because every once in a while I get embroiled in a Kids These Days type of conversation and I need a prop to wave around.

I’d happily put an orange Gabecube right next to it.

rainwall,

I randomly kept my orange box case as a memento and found it recently. Lets find out if i can mod the steam machine to fit inside of it.

plateee,
@plateee@piefed.social avatar

At a minimum if you still have the shirt (I lost mine years ago to a communal laundry room), you could wrap the steam machine with the shirt.

sheogorath,

HL3, TF3, L4D3 as launch title for Steam Machine calling it right now. 😭😭😭😭

InFerNo,

They went straight from Left 2 Dead to Left 4 Dead

Chingzilla,

Omg… a Left 16 Dead sounds amazing !

magic_lobster_party,

Artifact 3 confirmed!

coherent_domain,

Left 3 Dead

thermal_shock,

L3ft Dead

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Released on Wednesday (CET time). So on the third day of the week.

kinther,
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

I just came in my pants

BuboScandiacus, do games w Valves first title with a 3 in it
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

And it’s arch btw

wioum,
@wioum@lemmy.world avatar
TBi,

<insert mind blown gif>

thermal_shock,

Reverse funnel

TBi,

Arch VR BTW

SkaveRat,

Finally. Arch for my face

Imadethis,

Just arch into my face, if you don’t mind.

rtxn,

A whole new way of enjoying your neofetch fastfetch output!

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