I hate Microsoft but I also hate self-described “Libertarians” complaining about free speech because it usually means they want to spam slurs and white supremacist bullshit without pushback.
I replied to a comment like this somewhere else, so I’ll just paste this here
Take this with a grain of salt, as I’m a commoner on the server.
While freedom of speech means you can yell whatever racial slurs you want, it doesn’t mean you are free from consequences. When you start saying bigoted stuff on the chat, you will be targeted by players and get /ignore’d.
I would advise you to make your own judgement by reading the chat logs on Discord or IRC, but not everybody has that amount of time. Some people said vile stuff here, but every time someone says some weird stuff, it always gets backlash, and it definitely isn’t a nazi breeding ground.
Also I’ll add this, Most of the server staff and community are queer and from different backgrounds, slurs aren’t taken kindly here.
TL;DR: Fascists fucking over (mostly) fascists. How about we sit back, watch, learn and switch to alternatives (Luanti), or at least offline/cracked Minecraft?
Tomorrow, to conform to the new regime, Microsoft starts to shut down private servers with mentions to LGBT and Antifa.
If you don’t stand up for free speech when its idiots using slurs, there will be no one left to stand up for you tomorrow when its your speech under attack.
Minecraft is actually a spiritual successor to a mid 1940s board game entitled MeineCraft.
The original Minecraft creator, Notch, has long looked up to the author of the original and particularly idolizes the 34th Revision of the popular game.
(Severe sarcasm warning. Look away if you’re allergic.)
I like that they effectively compared themselves getting an email to people getting arrested for totally innocent social media posts about nothing in particular, which we can all assume is the case without looking into at all. I also like that they’re asking for widespread outrage against this, and want a person’s name to attack converse sincerely with in the Free Marketplace of Ideas™. Such a good, honest person we can definitely trust implicitly, trying to protect Freeze Peach™ from Woke™ Left-Wing™ tyrants like Microsoft.
Maybe “like” is the wrong word. Hmmm.
[Not sarcasm] Right, we know what’s going on here. Gross, cruel, hateful people just wanna have endless “rights” over everyone else and I’m so sick of their games I can hardly even type a non-sarcastic sentence. Ugh. Bleh. Et cetera. 🙄
What Microsoft is doing with Minecraft should be illegal. After they purchased Minecraft from Mojang, they started changing the rules so instead of being a game you have purchased and you play with your friends how you want to play it, it’s a game that you have a temporary license to use in a way that Microsoft thinks is appropriate for small children, even if you are hosting your own private server like these people are doing. Microsoft doesn’t like the way that these people are playing the game and talking outside the game, so they are taking the game away. You may not like these people because they sound like the kind of people that use “free speech” as an excuse for hate speech, but would it be the same if Microsoft were taking away the game from servers that allowed people to specify their pronouns or use different color combinations associated with LGBTQ representation, which they may soon be pressured to do by the government of the country they are headquartered in?
Self-hosted private server, just like a lemmy instance, one joins out of their own will. Imagine mega corporations being able to decide what is acceptable on your lemmy instance and take it down if they don’t like it?
"if you were in violation of lemmy’s terms of use, yeah…” wait, is there a central lemmy that can nuke other instances? I thought the whole point of the Fediverse was that if you don’t like an instance, you just defederate from it, and that there was no central power.
Yeah, we used to own the software we bought and could do whatever we wanted with it on our private storage, but now capitalism has realized it’s more lucrative to only sell licenses. Imagine Microsoft/Apple/Google erasing your privately stored documents tomorrow because they contained stuff against their policies. Very dangerous when you have governments banning abortion, trans rights, and even labeling antifascism as terrorism.
I can’t believe the number of people thinking trillion dollar mega corporations overreach is good just because it’s happening to others. Tomorrow, it’s you - that’s why we need more consumer rights and privacy protection, but the thing about rights is that they are for everyone and not just for the people you pick.
is there a central lemmy that can nuke other instances?
There is a legal process. Violating the AGPL that Lemmy is released under, for example.
Edited to add “Not letting me use slurs is a slippery slope to blocking positive lgbtqia statements” is an insane take, BTW.
The answer is simple - dont use their shit or abide by their terms. No, the intolerant do not gain any advantage with me by trying to cover with “freedom of speech” or “but what if they do it to trans folks?!?”
These are the people denigrating others, and while using a licensed piece of software too. Guess what - its under their licensing, thats their mistake. They can also stop being cool with having a Nazi bar.
Phasmaphonia is pretty cool, multiplayer co-op with voice chat. Basically you play as a team of professional ghost hunters who have to investigate haunted places. Can be scary AF but awesome atmosphere and cool culture.
Ah, of course it's about the serious violations on free speech in checks notes the brutal dictatorships of Britain and Germany. The dictatorship of common sense dictating you how not to be an asshole.
eh, the exaggeration aside…the trend lately IS extremely worrying.
especially the treatment of protesters.
that said I’m pretty sure that’s got little to do with this situation…tend to agree with the others ITT: “libertarian” and “free speech” is seldom a good combination of words…
Overwatch had a PVE horde defense thing that came out around halloween that was fun as hell. I don’t know if they still do in the new one but that was the only reason I played that game.
It sounds like Microsoft is being notified by its Minecraft players that toxic interactions are happening on MinecraftOnline’s server, and they’re taking action to reduce toxicity associated with their IP.
It’s really hard for me to fault them for that. Especially since MinecraftOnline is using the the Minecraft trademark in a way that sounds official in the name. I’m surprised they didn’t put a stop to that as it is.
Yeah honestly. Fuck Microsoft and all that but this sounds like there’s a strong reason behind it, and the owner’s post about “free speech” and “totalitarian China” is a MAJOR red flag.
Right? I’m a bit jaded but when someone starts making the “they’re attacking free speech” argument it usually comes down to “wahhh they won’t let us say slurs on Minecraft anymore” it sounds like users of the server are reporting toxic behaviors and the owner knows exactly what they mean.
Yup, seems like they want to run a nazi bar. From their wiki (archive):
nothing that a player can type in public chat (aside from the exceptions given below) can result in a ban or any form of official reprimand. You will not be banned for anything you say, aside from spamming. This includes but is not limited to:
Swearing;
Personal attacks;
Racial or cultural insults;
Asking to be banned.
It’s worded a little confusingly, but there is a list of exceptions further down the page. The server is hosted in Germany so the expected symbols are removed if built in-game, but most of the other exceptions are to keep the game playable.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion about bigotry and slurs, but having soulless American mega-corporations enforcing the current lowest common denominator about what is acceptable is not the win some people might think it is. Sure, they might seem like they’re on your side, and thus the right side, now, but this can change quickly and radically.
I miss the graphics of BDO. I don’t miss the RNG slams
Surely luck is on my side and I can’t miss 10 12% slams in a row. This next one is it! I can’t feel it, use the gear piece your wearing your going to hit anyway!.. Rage quit for 4 days…
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