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It’s insane to me how poorly they treated workers before and got away with it, but then decided to just keep pushing the envelope like the workers would never say that’s enough.

Game devs get shit from all sides. They’re pushed to work hard for long hours, during crunch they’ll frequently miss weekends and nights from their families. It is common that they burn out and their family life suffers. Most developers in the community avoid game studios because they know what it’s like, so studios attract Jr developers who are less qualified and don’t know any better. And we haven’t even talked about the putrid shit they get from gamers when they release a buggy game, that they probably did know about and desperately wanted to fix but execs forced them to release anyway.

Yet they still want more from them. And now execs are all shocked Pikachu that they’re finally organizing to unionize. And they absolutely should

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Don’t forget we have a whole community of Ficsit Pioneers over here too, over at !satisfactory

Very excited to start a new factory on U8!

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makes sense, it’s their most successful hardware product. I’d be surprised if they didn’t

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Another example of under funded giant corporate projects and then shocked Pikachu that they aren’t wildly profitable. They’ll never understand you can make a wildly profitable game, but it requires investment

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I understand why they are, but now that CP2077 is more stable I’m going to miss red engine. It gives night city such a unique feel, and I worry unreal is going to make it feel like all the other unreal games. I’m not a game engineer so I’m assuming that will be much easier, but still, will miss it

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Check out ChimeraOS

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Because we all know how Bethesda’s reputation was ruined by Skyrim.

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Probably still trying to figure out why they can’t log into their laptops

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I’m OOTL, why is GOG such a big deal? Isn’t it just another storefront like steam?

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This took a while for me. Higher education means higher wealth, which gives way to higher density. Also I’ve found that Office zoning is much, much more important, check and in the zoning panel what the negatives are to that and try to raise it. Office zoning gives way to higher wealth, and thus higher zoning.

Remember that if education needs bolstering it will take time, those sims need to go through elementary, highschool, then college, and it’s good to invest in the technical and medical universities. That will help attract offices.

Definitely not a bug, just the formula from CS1 has changed.

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Yeah pay special attention making sure everyone can access it, then as they grow office demand should jump up! Low skill labor makes industrial jobs, high skill labor brings office jobs. I like how they did it, in CS1 workers either worked in industry or commercial and offices were pretty much ignored. Now offices are massively important

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Ah gaming journalism in the 2020s.

Everything we know so far about “product”

unfortunately we know nothing about “product” yet, but here’s an unfounded rumor and a fuzzy picture! Thanks for clicking on our garbage article and giving us as revenue!

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Oh my god I hate those. Those are the real articles and places terrified for AI. they’re excited because they can write more bullshit with it. They should be terrified because AI is great at summarizing and I expect extensions that will summarize it down to a sentence

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The most annoying thing about the cities performance issues isn’t even the performance issues. It’s all the gamers who overnight became experts in game performance that are ranting and raving online about how they obviously know how to optimize games more than professionals. It’s so tiring at this point.

Any software engineer with real professional experience can tell you performance tuning is a nightmare. It’s going through millions of lines of code checking for places you can allocate memory a bit differently. Checking collections and going back to your CS classes to make sure you’re using the best data structures. Watching performance tools and debugging for hours on end to catch that one place that slows down a bit.

People here, Reddit, and everywhere are just so tiring because they act like it’s so obvious. “Oh it’s the teeth”. “If they would have done X”. It’s honestly just so disrespectful to the full time engineers who no doubt have had those thoughts months ago. If items like this were simple, they would have done them already.

I give completely respect to the engineers who worked on this, and I respect Colossal Order’s push to still release early. As someone who is enjoying the game, zero crashes, and in my opinion completely playable, I’m happy they released now.

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They literally said why. Because a lot of players, like myself, don’t care about the performance issues and are happy to play it. That those who wanted to start deserved to get it early, and that by delaying it only punished us. And they’re right, like I said I am enjoying it, there’s a huge discord of people enjoying it. If some people just absolutely can’t handle 30fos then they are welcome to delay it for themselves and not buy it until hardware catches up

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That’s not a fair comparison. I see people upset because the car isn’t a masarati, when they didn’t build a masarati. They built a van. I don’t need to go 100km/h, I needed something that could carry all of these items I have. And for me, that runs fine.

I will say that I have a new(ish) gaming rig, built about 3 years ago. I do think minimum requirements are jokingly out of date, and those needed to be upped to not mislead people. I don’t think even a 1000 series GTX card could play this on minimum settings, let alone a 900. It’s better PR just to be up front and say “Look, those cards just aren’t going to cut it. If you can’t play day one, we’re sorry, but we’re excited to see you at your next upgrade” rather than lie and say it’ll be fine.

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This is exactly it. It’s more fun to shit on a game release because it gives a sense of superiority. “I know better than everyone else, this game should have been done this way and that way” and bolsters self confidence.

There are without a doubt some really good arguments for things that could be different, but the vast majority of things I read are self aggrandizing people talking about how they all know how it could be better - and that’s the arrogance that really bugs me. That any of us who don’t know anything about the source code could say at all that it should run better.

Saying “I wish it ran faster” is one thing. Saying “I know it could run better” or “Other games run fast, this one should too”, or in regards to this article “lol they did this thing that’s so stupid” and just the self backpatting for figuring it out. Software engineering is hard alone. Gaming engineering on top of that is just ridiculous. I have 14 years of software engineering under my belt and I still know they are doing things in this game that I would not be able to. Anyone who says they know better than the engineers are the same as the people who sat in my CS102 class and told other students they were smarter than the professor. You aren’t. Everyone knows you aren’t. Please stop acting like you are

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You don’t understand. I watched a YouTube video/took CS102/have a side project I’m totally going to finish. I totally know just as much as these engineers with 10+ years experience who put the last 5+ years into the project.

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This is why I can’t play multiplayer games anymore, all of them have just focused on difficulty and grinding.

I was looking forward to Halo infinite for quite a while, but the multiplayer just is terrible for me. Halo 4 is probably the last one that I kind of enjoyed. And of course the first three were amazing. All I want is to start up multiplayer and and play against people roughly my skill level. I don’t want to grind, I don’t want to be work for everything, I’m a guy who got off work and has a few hours to unwind after the day.

The last thing I want to do after getting off work is have to be extremely frustrated because I’m struggling on an online game and I should be just relaxing. Kudos to everybody who does want the challenge, but games need modes that allow me just to slack off and have fun

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While some setups on PC have challenges, we concluded the performance is not a dealbreaker for all the players. For us, the number one priority is for the players to have fun with the game, and we had seen enough feedback from players enjoying the game that it would be more unfair to postpone. We know we will keep working on the game and do our best to fix issues as fast as possible, so we wanted to respect the announced release date and allow people to start playing the game.

I’ve gotten a lot of flak here on Lemmy for saying this was their plan, because I’m now… 11ish hours into my game and loving it and I don’t need super high framerates.

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There’s a lot of entitled people who are upset because they kicked everything to ultra and yeah , that’s where that 7-12 fps is. Most people can’t fathom fiddling with the settings a bit and maybe lowering them.

The dev sent out a forum post on what settings are causing the biggest lag. I followed their advice and it is completely playable. I’m about 10 hours in and I’m loving it

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I have never in my 20 years of gaming not had to make some sacrifices even with new hardware. The only time I can max out all sliders is when a game is already 5 or more years old.

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Shhhh you gotta jump on the hate train! You can’t just be happy a game is coming out here!

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This is a good take. If I can play, maybe high settings, on my 1440p monitor I’ll be happy. I don’t need ultra day one. I’m excited for a refreshed city builder, I have hundreds of hours in the first one and I’m excited to see the improvements.

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People just think that all new games should be able to run at 60fps on ultra settings on 4 year old hardware or it isn’t “optimized”. If it runs fine, I’m happy ,even if it needs to be on “high” settings until hardware catches up a bit.

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Yes, this is all a horrible post, game engines can’t really be compared directly. There is no one size fits all.

EA thought that and tried to apply Frostbite to their entire catalogue. What worked amazingly for Battlefield/Battlefront was a disaster for Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, and let’s not forget Anthem. Engine was optimized for small maps and quick gameplay, but was horrible for large open worlds and RPG elements.

The reason Unreal requires such heavy hardware is because they’re trying to be a one tool fits all, but that requires making sacrifices.

OP’s entire post here is incredibly naive. It’s apples to oranges.

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Yeah, this guy is basically harping on the concept of re-usable code. That’s why we praise RollerCoaster Tycoon’s dev, he wrote the entire thing in assembly. Beyond that, everything since 2d has used an engine. Hell, to not use an engine would be wasteful and delay games. What, every game should rewrite an engine?

Even Halo CE, 2002, used an engine. The Blam! engine. Dude’s delusional if he thinks people were drawing individual pixels on the monitor.

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I see a whole new generation of gamers who have grown up on these new games that they think are perfect, who didn’t see the decades of toil and crap that we did growing up. They expect everything to be the most amazing game they’ve ever seen, not understanding that perfect games are in fact, exceedingly rare. That most games have bad mechanics, quirks, boring areas, and things we put up with. But younger folks just stamp it as a “bad game” and refuse to see the nuance.

Things like games are a spectrum. There’s only 3ish games I mark as perfect. Most will have some things wrong with them. If you don’t like that, then just be content with maybe one perfect game a decade.

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Exactly. I still don’t get 60fps on the first one, a now 8 year old game on top of the line hardware. I don’t care. People here act like performance optimizing is just turning a knob they forgot, but it’s hours of detailed work finding anything and anything that may be able to shave nanoseconds off.

If the game is playable, I’m happy. It’s not a twitch shooter. It’s a city simulation.

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I don’t know, this whole 60fps thing is a new demand from gamers. Frankly I don’t care about reviews anymore. Everyone skews negative, and I’m tired of it.

My hard takes:

• 60fps doesn’t matter. It’s not a shooter. Even CS1 I could only get 50ish on a new map, and that’s with hardware that’s 6 years newer than the game.
• RAM should be used. For gaming it would be wasteful not to use it. If you aren’t using all your ram then you’re loading textures, shaders, and everything from disk, which is thousands of times slower and that would lead to … you guessed it, gamers bitching about lag. What are you using that ram for anyway when you’re gaming that’s a higher priority? If you’re watching someone and they’re complaining that a game is using too much ram shut them off. They don’t how computers work. These aren’t the days of 256MB of ram. I have 32 gigs. I want them to use it.
• Marketers are paid to lie. They don’t understand what the game can do, they’re paid to sell it. Cyberpunk was disappointing for many because they believed marketers running unleashed, saying the game would be a revolution, that it would be gaming evolved. It wasn’t. Instead gamers “only” got a fun open world RPG and they were disappointed by it. (And bugs, they had legit concerns but marketing was stupid around that game and every one of their marketers should have been fired )
• I find that people who watch reviewers are exponentially more disappointed in games because they let reviewers tell them how to feel. If you want to start enjoying games more, stop letting them tell you if you should be disappointed. They’re going for clicks and views, and the rage train gets a lot of them. Just try it and return it if you don’t like it.

I haven’t watched anything and I’m excited. I’m not “hyped”, I don’t think it will redefine city building forever. I think I will enjoy my time in a game that is by definition an iteration of the franchise. Maybe it’ll be great. Maybe it’ll be worse than the first, but I’m going to decide that myself, not let some reviewer begging me for a subscribe tell me.

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No don’t you understand? They gathered two other people, who work directly with them reviewing games the same way they do. If they don’t like it it means it’s a bad game. Obviously!

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Don’t know how to feel about their own mod service. Not that workshop is perfect, but I like it being separate. I guess I’ve just been burned by Creator’s Club with Bethesda,

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Congratulations! Your mod has been selected to be auto included in our next re-re-re-release of the game! You should be so proud of yourself!

No, we will not give you a cut of our profits

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Because capitalism! Aren’t we excited to go buy something that we already have??

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Imagine all the money stupidly left on the table. All because they refuse to accept long term investment over short term gains.

So much money these franchises could have made - if they were given an honest chance

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And we get into why everyone is striking. We’re all okay for normal use cases like this, but execs are like “we’ll pay you for 3 hours of work, then build a model and then do 180 hours of voice from that model. And you’ll say thank you for the opportunity”

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It is courteous to other religions by not assuming everyone is Christian, and doesn’t hurt me at all, so why not?

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I like “cost per hour” which is what you’re getting at.

• Movie at the theater: $16 total.
  • $8/hr
• drinks with friends, at 1 drink an hour for 4 hours
  • $7/hr
• Dinner out, decent restaurant 40/person
  • 20/hr
• Cyberpunk dlc, $30, 20 hrs to beat
  • $1.50/hr

Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty good entertainment value per hour compared to other leisurely activities for me. I apply this to most entertainment things and it does help. I find comparing things to going to the movies is the best, if it’s more per hour than a movie in a theater than no it’s probably not worth it. Those stupid $50 slingshot rides? Nah.

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I’m not convinced whoever pitched it wasn’t joking either, and then studio execs picked it up and ran with it

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Wanna be Aragorn as a ranger? Galadriel in the second age? Elrond during the last alliance? Fuck you, here’s Gollum.

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This is some of the most honest feedback about Starfield. It’s not bad. It’s just horribly dated.

It’s a standard Bethesda game, and it’s great for a Bethesda game. But Bethesda hasn’t updated anything in years, over a decade even. Characters are flat, storylines are fun but not engaging, it’s just… fine.

If this had come out in 2014-2016 as a successor to Skyrim it’d be one of the best games, I firmly believe that. But it didn’t, they took their time building it, which is good, but now we have games like the Witcher 3, Cyberpunk, RDR2, even ME3 came out after Skyrim. The format for story propelled RPGs has changed, and the bar has been raised.

Again I don’t want to be one of the “Oh bethesda bad boooo” people because honestly, I’m still having a ton of fun in Starfield. It’s just that for a brand new game… it’s really showing it’s age.

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Exactly. Compared to games from the early 2010s? It’d hold up. Compared to games in the early 2020s? It just can’t even be compared.

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I really like this, honest feedback to them. The game is obviously made by committee. That’s exactly what my wife and I have been saying, that they did a lot of cool ideas - and then dropped them half way through. None of the ideas are fully thought out or finished, it all screams “Some suit said ‘no this is great, move on’”. Some quick examples

• Base building, awesome concept, I want to build a base on a foreign planet.
  • But what do I do there?
• Automated crafting. Awesome, I love Satisfactory! I can do this.
  • Wait, I can’t limit items in transit, so I can really only transport one item over a link? So it can’t really be automated.
• Oh sweet, I can build my own spaceship?!
  • But you are rarely actually in space and really when you are it’s just a mini game between planets.
• and you get companions to hang out with you on your ship?
  • But they don’t interact with each other or do anything like help you fight other ships.
• Oh and we get to have a fleet of ships?!
  • but they aren’t actually a fleet. You never get to assign someone as captain of another ship to help you fight pirates. You just… pick which of your ships you want to fly right now.

And that’s just some. Like so so so many cool awesome fun ideas that were just… “I don’t want to play with this anymore.” The fleet one especially stings. I was really hoping I could assign someone as captain of another ship, and when we jumped/spawned in space there it would be on my left, and it could help me fight pirates. I mean, how hard would it be to program that? They already have the ship, they have AI for dogfighting other AI, it would just follow behind you until you entered combat.

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Oh it was incredibly popular to hate it. I still see threads that are CJ’ing around about how horrible it is. Because it’s fun to hate something on the internet. Now, the people who had bugs or actually “literally unplayable” statuses - genuine. That sucks, I’m sorry, but to everyone who just jumped on the hate train, well I feel bad for people who can’t enjoy things because of that.

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Fair, but I’m talking he spent 20 minutes in there, maybe started one of the main missions.