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Coelacanth, miesiąc temu do games w What are you all looking forward to at Summer Games Fest?

I had no idea it was today so I’m not looking forward to anything in particular. Having just finished Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 it would be amazing news if they had an announcement that they’re intending to release a DLC.

Would also love to see something from Remedy about Control 2 as I love those guys and the Remedy Connected Universe. Well, what I’m really desperate about is Alan Wake 3, but that’s surely not even in pre-production yet (sadly).

Would not mind seeing something from Bloodlines 2 either out of morbid curiosity, but I have no hopes it will actually be good.

BroBot9000, miesiąc temu do games w Please Don't Preorder This...

Pre orders and games as a service are scams from corporations that don’t give a shit about games besides how much money they can make releasing unfinished garbage.

ZeroHora, miesiąc temu do games w Please Don't Preorder This...

Controversial opinion:

Pre-ordering or not make no difference.

You can search for it, in 2014 they have reports of a declining in pre-orders industry wide, they don’t give numbers of pre-orders but even if you look at the ranking of sold games in online platforms people buy more days after the release than before or in day of the release.

The boycott of pre-order kinda of worked, more people avoid pre-ordering than before and did that make any difference in the quality of game release? Hell no, they still release game with bugs, not finished with need of day one patches, the entire boycott made 0 impact on this shit.

ZeroHora, miesiąc temu do games w Please Don't Preorder This...

i think you are misunderstanding the point of the no preorder movement. There never should have been an expectation for it to improve the Day 1 quality of game releases.

“it’s the culture surrounding preorders that is most responsible for the trail of broken and unfinished games that clutter the sales charts” Kotaku 2015

“By pre-ordering, you’re also saying that you’re ok with them cutting content, and that you don’t mind the bugs and problems of the launch copies.” Techraptor 2015

And many other articles or reddit discussions about the topic. That’s what game journalist told the gamers and what many believe. The consumer protection was always the part that made sense, but they tried to push this idea of we could fix the broken release culture by not pre-ordering.

ILikeBoobies, miesiąc temu do games w Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

Not feature complete to pre-release promises/expectations

You don’t have to lie to justify your purchase, you can enjoy it for what it is

Jimmycakes, miesiąc temu do games w Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That’s not a simple “rocky start” the released a pre alpha at full price.

Senal, miesiąc temu do games w Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to “bethesda jank” where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.

It got better over time, until just before the “big patch” came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).

Honestly i prefer, pre-“big patch” but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.

So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it’s actually pretty good.

An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it’s actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).

TBC I’m not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.

cRazi_man, miesiąc temu do games w Dave2D - Windows Was The Problem All Along (Lenovo Legion Go Windows 11 vs. SteamOS)

Mine was a pre-release preorder as well.

I wouldn’t upgrade it now. Knowing me, I’ll probably end up waiting till 2027 and buy a secondhand device from 2026.

I mostly play indie 2D games, so games I want still work fine. The revised Deck has a bunch of improvements I would have liked (OLED, WiFi 6, etc). If there are enough improvements in usability (screen, WiFi, size, battery, hardware power), then I’ll upgrade and give the old device to my kids (who currently use it for more than 75% of the time anyway).

A_Random_Idiot, miesiąc temu (edited miesiąc temu) do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

I love lotro. I played it for 10 years. From release, until mordor.

I was madly inlove with lotro. It was a beautiful game. the only MMO where you actually read lore and quest text and anything else, because of how immersive it was all… and the game was perfect (before mordor). Casual, relaxing, but challenging in all the right places.

and the community was just absolutely amazing. Kind, considerate, helpful, generous. Like you said, i think the average age of lotro players was over 40… Until there was there was some issue with WoW that caused a lot of WoW players to immigrate to lotro… Then chat got less friendly, and more obnoxious, and the community got less kind, and less helpful… cause all the kind helpful people got burned by the jackholes being jackholes… Still a pleasant community overall, but no where near what it was before that WoWpocalypse.

My love and faith in the game changed with Mordor, though… Mordor broke me, It was just so pointlessly difficulty spiked on even the landscape mobs were slaughtering raid-ready players, that most of my kin, myself included, ended up just quitting the game. A few people eventually got the gang back together again for southern mirkwood, but that mordor level of difficulty was still there. No one in the kin, except for the hunters and the champions, seemed able to even 1v1 the landscape mobs. that also reflected group content… no one wanted anything but healers and hunters. was the same with mordor, but even worse with southern mirkwood. Mobs were so dumbly overpowered that only the lotro character equivalent of tactical nukes were wanted in groups… I, sadly, was not a tactical nuke class.

It really breaks my heart. I loved that game. I made great real life friends in that game… I met my Ex in that game (though in retrospect that probably shouldnt be viewed as part of the happy memories lol), Spent so many evenings bullshitting in voice chat while we did instances and group content, or just ground out old content for deeds. Was such a magical fucking experience, that I’ll probably never experience again for the rest of my life. The pre-mordor game was absolute perfection. Especially with the revamps to some less ideal/polished game areas like Moria.

And killed, to me, because devs listened to a vocal minority that wanted moar harderer.

I’m sad now.

cyberpunk007, miesiąc temu do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

I really enjoyed cyberpunk 2077, I bought it a year after release on sale.

Now talk to several people who bought it day 1 😅

In all seriousness though, pre-ordering is bullshit

False, miesiąc temu do games w Star Citizen Loses 'Integral Staff' Responsible for Server Meshing

I had a friend try to sales pitch me on pre-ordering it back in 2012. I said “I’ll just wait for it to release”. Still waiting.

bassomitron, miesiąc temu do games w ‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game

Empress is barely active anymore, if at all. Look at the last few dozen DRM-enabled games released in the last few years and I don’t think a single one was cracked. There was Dragon’s Dogma 2, but it turned out that was just a leaked pre-launch dev build and its performance was awful (because the game has shit performance that was even worse at launch than it is now).

ghostlychonk, miesiąc temu do games w The Baldur's Gate 3 cast got a new set of pre-painted minis and—oh, oh no, oh no no no

The quality wouldn’t have been an issue I’d imagine if the pre release images hasn’t shown high quality minifigs. This is now typical WotC fuckery.

Critical_Thinker, miesiąc temu do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

I bought it on pre-release on steam and refunded it right before go live.

Love how try before you buy works now. Charge me for early access to play a couple days early? Well shucks… guess I get a free trial period.

By the end of the weekend I was disillusioned. No meaningful exploration in a space game is insane.

sugar_in_your_tea, 2 miesiące temu do games w Europa Universalis V: Official Announcement Trailer

Laith said that Paradox is letting him say whatever he wants

Sure, but he also has pretty close ties to Paradox since he has hosted various tournaments and whatnot for them, so he doesn’t want to ruin that by saying something bad about the game.

There’s a bit of that w/ Florry too, but I think he is more likely to go deep into the mechanics and find issues. And he did point out a few issues.

But yeah, I’m sure his take was awesome too, and I’ll probably end up watching it too. Everything I’ve seen from blog posts to Florry’s review has made me super excited. Most of the things I dislike about EU4 are getting fixed (e.g. it uses all cores!!), and there’s new stuff to play with. I’m super stoked about the whole pop idea, and I think it’ll be really fun in an EUV context.

So yeah, here’s hoping that the release is solid and comes soon-ish. Since they’ve already given pre-release access to streamers, it shouldn’t be too long now. Hopefully early this summer. :)

LordWiggle, 2 miesiące temu do games w I'm bored and desperately search for a proper game

I basically do the same, searching overwhelmingly positive games. But most I haven’t tried are poorly looking indie games or weird Asian games. I played several really good indie games, I’m not against that, but what I see generally doesn’t catch my interest. And I have over 600 games in Steam alone, so many good ones I already played.

Now it’s just a sea of junk, having to find a needle in a haystack. And user reviews aren’t a gold standard anymore. I’ve seen amazing reviews of mediocre games, as young people don’t have standards anymore as most games these days are empty of story, full of bugs or both.

The game dev community was outraged by bg3, warning people they shouldn’t see bg3 as a new standard. While back in the days when you still bought physical games in a store, it indeed was a standard to sell you a proper product for the price you pay.

These days I illegally download triple A games to check them first, if they are good I’ll buy them. I haven’t bought a triple A game for a long time. Often 2h of playtime for a refund on steam isn’t enough, when you want to see all the storyline videos and conversations. Not enough time to experience the gameplay.

Indie games I often buy immediately, they really put in effort to make something worth playing. Big companies however just put in effort to make it look really good to make a lot of pre-orders, then to abandon it after a few minor bug fixes while gameplay is poorly written and just a few hours. As long as you peek the interest for just over 2h so people aren’t eligible for a refund anymore. This is scamming people, I don’t understand why they keep getting away with it.

In 2024 almost 19.000 games were released on Steam. I have yet to find a single title from 2024 worth playing.

gamer, 2 miesiące temu do games w Nintendo seeks default judgement and $17,500 in damages from pirated game streamer who ignored court summons

So? Maybe there’s a case against him for regular piracy, but streaming a game pre-release doesn’t seem like anything remotely close to copyright infringement. If anything, it’s journalism and protected speech.

If a leak causes damage to Nintendo’s marketing plans, then Nintendo shouldn’t have let it leak in the first place. That’s negligence on their part.

Of course idk the full story here. Not showing up to court and handing Nintendo a default judgement is stupid.