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Gieselbrecht, w California’s new electric train makes for a shockingly better trip—we tried it

It’s funny to read this article painting electric trains as a great novelty, when the majority of trains in western Europe (excluding certain island states) have been electric for decades. But good for california, sounds like a nice improvement!

XeroxCool,

Or that the Northeast Corridor (DC>Philly>NYC>Boston) is all electrified and has the fastest passenger train on the continent (Amtrak Acela can do 150mph, soon to be replaced with a 165mph variant that can do like +30 in turns). And that NJ Transit on that line (following US 1 and I-95) is electric along that massive population concentration. But yeah, good for California. I get it, running power is a really expensive project but at least this section goes back at least as far as the GG1 loco days.

ChicoSuave,

America is a petrostate that uses diesel and coal for most industrial purposes and trains have usually been used as cargo movers and not people movers, so they usually use diesel.

fpslem,

I just loved seeing electric rail referred to in a positive manner, and to see the benefits (speed! quiet! comfort! land use!) highlighted.

davel,
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Yeah it’s not very impressive, electrifying one commuter line, when China now has 45,000 km of high speed electric lines.

Repelle,

Yeah, I was really surprised. I would have assumed the vast majority of commuter rail was electric, it’s certainly been true for the rail I’ve taken.

h3mlocke, w California’s new electric train makes for a shockingly better trip—we tried it

Ha! “Shocking” I get it!

DrBob, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?
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I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but as rule, who knows? There are scheduled trains which are notoriously unreliable, but also unscheduled trains. Basically whenever there is enough cargo to justify a train it gets put out on the tracks and they move it when they can. Caveat: this is for Canada and is largely based on info from some former neighbors who were conductors and brakemen.

My sympathy to your cats.

yokonzo, (edited )

So real shit they don’t track freight trains? That seems kind of inefficient if I’m honest.

Then again I’m not a train professional so what do I know

Album,
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Freight is definitely tracked but not necessarily scheduled in regular intervals. This is true for both trains and ships. Like it costs so much and the world isn’t always that consistent.

But yeah like cp/cn/CSX/ns/BNSF etc all know what’s on their lines and where.

However these lines are fully private unlike aviation so there is no requirement to publically provide any data.

For planes position data doesn’t even come from the airline but a govt mandated transponder that communicates on public frequency on the aircraft and private websites use a network of recieving radios donated or not spread across the world to provide the public with a service they also try to profit off of. This doesn’t exist for trains as far as I know. And I don’t think for ships either.

davel,
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Well that puts a wrinkle in my train heist.

DrBob,
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They track them, but they’re not all scheduled. If there is enough cargo there they put on a “special” and they will move it between the scheduled trains. Train scheduling and tracking is an art unto itself.

usrtrv, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

There are groups out there that monitor train routes. And some publish to the Web.

In theory you could hook up an software defined radio and listen to train transponders yourself and give yourself a warning if one is nearby.

yokonzo, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

Hey coding nerds, I know you’re nearby, do you think I’d be able to use tensorflow or something to identify an incoming train with this view?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0ca8a73-2870-4b66-a65f-685c973fc633.jpeg

Technoguyfication,

You could, but if this is taken from another window in the same building you’ll likely only get ~10 seconds of warning.

If you could put a couple cameras a mile or so down each direction on the track you could get an earlier warning system

yokonzo, (edited )

This is taken from my window, and I’m not sure how I feel about leaving expensive equipment out in a suburban area for anyone to pick up and run off with

mondoman712, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

There’s a facebook group for that line, perhaps they could help you: www.facebook.com/groups/upbelvideresub/

Latuga17, w California’s new electric train makes for a shockingly better trip—we tried it

So glad that caltrain go ally has what would be considered normal in the rest of the world 🙄. But seriously this is a massive improvement and commuter rail systems should see this success and do this instead of trying to have battery powered trains and diesels that run under northeast corridor wires.

fpslem,

Agreed! I feel like Americans can’t imagine a future without seeing it somewhere in their home country. They travel to London or to Paris, enjoy the high-speed trains and the frequent metro service, and then come home and keep getting in their cars. So actually experiencing modern electric rail service (albeit not yet high-speed rail) in their own country is a big deal.

davel, w ‘Transformational’: how a California city launched America’s first hydrogen-powered passenger train
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the first hydrogen-powered, zero-emissions passenger train

That depends entirely on how the hydrogen is being produced: it’s an energy storage medium, not an energy source.

Though the onboard process does not directly emit greenhouse gases, the production processes to create hydrogen fuel in the US almost always do.

fpslem,

100% agree, this article glosses over that (and many other aspects) of this supposedly newfangled system.

usrtrv,

But what’s wrong with working in parallel? Develop hydrogen while the grid becoming greener. A traditional electric train has the same issue of being grid based.

fpslem, w ‘Transformational’: how a California city launched America’s first hydrogen-powered passenger train

I posted this because I think this is absolutely silly. A hydrogen-powered train that runs on a low-volume 9-mile track? Why on earth couldn’t this just run on gantry-provided electric power? I guess it’s fine as an experimental trial system, but let’s not pretend that hydrogen is better than electric in basically every rail application imaginable.

Jumuta,

it’s also hilarious that the picture in the article shows overhead wires

Rentlar, (edited ) w ‘Transformational’: how a California city launched America’s first hydrogen-powered passenger train

To play H2’s advocate for a moment, if LA can’t seem to get the financial and political backing to invest in electrification quickly, it is a potential way for LA to pull a “passenger train network” out of its ass in time for the 2028 Olympics…

It’s quieter and no emissions at the location of travel kind similar to CNG/LNG. (Some electricity face similar problems of not being zero emissions from generation)… but I do think it’s worth exploring for some minor applications.

Edit: to be clear, electric and battery trains are better technologies by miles and miles. Just that the oil and freight rail lobbyists are in California’s pocket for now so I’m just saying the best case scenario for Los Angeles given the powers that be and hold SoCal back

fpslem,

Honestly, if LA did tons of rail and it was all diesel powered, it would still be a huge improvement in carbon emissions, not to mention the traffic and urban density benefits.

CarbonAlpine, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

I’m a freight conductor. There is no schedule, unless you notice them happening at around the same time every day, you won’t find a pattern. We pretty much get a call and hour and a half before we need to go in at any random time of day or night and that’s when the train moves.

CarbonAlpine, w Half-century-old locomotives still pulling for BNSF

The oldest engine I have been on was built in 1965, those damn thing refuse to give up.

jqubed, w PSA: Getting Train Sim World 5's free starter pack automatically gives you the TSW5 versions of all the previous DLC you've purchased, even if you bought the previous DLC for e.g. TSW2
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Like, I don’t need to have TSW5? It will just put them on my account if I ever do buy it later?

Aatube,

You don’t even need to buy it, you just get the free TSW5 starter pack

I’ve seen some reviews say the free starter kit is only for a limited time. Dunno if that’s true but this is the first time they’re doing it so I’m not taking chances.

Rentlar,

The TSW5 Starter Pack is free to register to your account on Steam, Epic, Microsoft and Sony platforms, available to claim until Oct 17 2024.

  • If you don’t have any current or previous TSW addons you will only have access to the tutorial training centre route.
  • If you have compatible content from earlier Train Sim World routes, getting the starter pack will allow you to obtain the TSW5 version of the route and locos as a free DLC.
LainTrain, w PSA: Getting Train Sim World 5's free starter pack automatically gives you the TSW5 versions of all the previous DLC you've purchased, even if you bought the previous DLC for e.g. TSW2

Bruh like I’ll give em any money

Aatube,

This is about if you’ve given them any money already, you don’t have to give any more

XeroxCool,

What’s wrong with them?

LainTrain,

Too expensive for what it is, no £1k or so for the game with all DLC? Bit of a ripoff. Even DCS is cheaper.

nokturne213, w PSA: Getting Train Sim World 5's free starter pack automatically gives you the TSW5 versions of all the previous DLC you've purchased, even if you bought the previous DLC for e.g. TSW2

Windows only. Sad train noises.

Aatube,

Works well with Proton

nokturne213,

I use MacOS.

Aatube,

Sad train noises indeed, though I think buying CrossOver would be very useful

nokturne213,

It is on my list of things to purchase. But since I do not have a lot of time for games I only purchase those that support macOS. Plus then I do not have to worry about fiddling with the game to get it to work.

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