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Immersive_Matthew, w How much does it cost to build a shortline railroad?

Is there transit on both ends as one of the challenges with rail in NA is once you arrive at your destination, it can be hard to make that last mile or so transit. It also has to be as fast or faster overall than driving and it has to be cheaper as people will just default to cars again. That has been my experience living in cities around the world.

veroxii, w How much does it cost to build a shortline railroad?

You might find this video about the brightline rail in Florida interesting. They started off as only a short section and the video discusses the costs and funding.

youtu.be/dmpyV4Yf8b0

yessikg, w FRA (US Federal Railroad Admin) Announces $900k in New Planning and Development Grants to Support Intercity Passenger Rail Services
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They could spend so much more if they stopped spending so much on roads

tartan, w FRA (US Federal Railroad Admin) Announces $900k in New Planning and Development Grants to Support Intercity Passenger Rail Services

900k. Lol, that’s cute. I just read an article that said the DoD is planning on spending 1.7T (T as in trillion) on unreliable F35 fighter planes. Priorities, ey?

notfromhere, w FRA (US Federal Railroad Admin) Announces $900k in New Planning and Development Grants to Support Intercity Passenger Rail Services

$900k is like pissing in the wind, what are they going to accomplish with that?

Rentlar,

They mention that at least some of this money is to complete the application for big boi federal grants.

Vendul, w Why Locomotives Don't Have Tires - Practical Engineering

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  • magnetosphere,
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    I’m nine and find his voice hypnotic

    Rentlar,

    He’s a dad with a kid in that growing up phase. I think it makes it very accessible for people to learn the history of decades of design decisions.

    Rentlar, w Rail Labor Opposes Ancora's Proposed Ouster of Norfolk Southern CEO - TTD

    Ancora’s plan, though some of it sounded nice on the surface, includes more “Precision Scheduled Railroading”, reducing headcount, and this is how Regan put it:

    “Once Ancora has extracted value from the company, it will move on and leave shareholders, employees, customers, and the government to pick up the pieces.”

    davel,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yup, that’s how hedge funds work. Everyone and everything will be left even worse off, which is hard to even imagine given the current state of affairs.

    I think this is critical infrastructure that we should nationalize via eminent domain. Given that it’s wildly profitable, what arguments can fiscal conservatives make against it? We can then make the capital investments and worker conditions changes to bring about the direly needed safety improvements. Nationalizing the rail lines could bring the costs down and safety & reliability up further still.

    Rentlar, w How India electrified 45% of its railway network in just five years

    Big congratulations to them! It’s a very impressive accomplishment for a sprawling network with a long legacy.

    (Edited to add): The US could honestly do big things like this too if they actually valued their railroad network as a matter of national security like they did with highways.

    scrubbles,
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    I was in Europe on their rail and we rode from Switzerland to Rome in a day. Albeit a bit long, 8 hours, but when we got off we realized that entire trip was the same distance as Denver to Seattle, a flight we frequently take.

    Flying takes us about 3.5 hours plus security, waiting, travel to and from the airport. Plus then sitting on a cramped plane with very little service.

    I wish I could take 2 more hours and have an enjoyable ride like the rail they have over there.

    safesyrup,

    I was figuring 8 hours to be a bit long and i just checked: all connections from zurich to rome go via the gotthard scenic route, and not through the tunnel. I thought the gotthard was open again for passenger rail after the big derailment they had, apparently not. While the scenic route is very nice indeed, the tunnel could shave off a solid hour of travel time.

    MCRascasse,
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    @scrubbles @Rentlar Just did 2 and a bit weeks in Switzerland and Italy. Exclusively used rail. It's amazing - and cheap (especially in Italy)

    slazer2au, w Ancora Accelerates NS [Norfolk Southern] Takeover Attempt - Railway Age

    I was slightly confused because the Dutch national railway is also called NS.

    IDew,

    Me too aha

    Rentlar,

    title clarified, my apologies. It was copied from the article verbatim.

    Rentlar,

    Nederlandse Spoorwegen

    You are right… title updated for clarity.

    lntl, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

    same as the interstate highway. federally owned alignments, rails, signals, etc enable private operators to offer transport services based out of private yards

    ajsadauskas, (edited )
    @ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

    @lntl @Rentlar Why is how the public ownership of railways could work a hypothetical in the US?

    Many countries already do this right now.

    Here's a link to the Australian Rail Track Corporation: https://www.artc.com.au/about/

    It's owned by the Australian Federal Government, owns rail track infrastructure, but doesn't operate any freight or passenger services itself.

    Here's a link to VicTrack: https://www.victrack.com.au/

    It's owned by the Victorian state government, owns rail infrastructure in Victoria, but doesn't operate any freight or passenger services itself.

    Rentlar,

    It was that way in the US and Canada before too (Conrail and CN specifically). There’s no good reason it couldn’t be feasible today.

    If you are in NA, get the word out to your people you know, then direct it to state legislators, congress people, MPs, MPPs.

    stewie3128, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

    Nationalize all of it, or let the unions purchase the companies.

    When Conrail was up for sale, initially the only viable bid came from the employees’ union of Conrail. Liddy Dole rejected it out of hand for that reason. Years later it was sold to a group of proper capitalists.

    thesporkeffect, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

    Nationalize it

    HerbalGamer,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    And make it free.

    PowerCrazy,

    Free for passenger service, paid for freight service. Passenger Service always has priority.

    mercano, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.
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    Separate infrastructure and operations. Nationalize the infrastructure, allow private companies to pay to operate over it, but place limits on things like train length and require regular inspection of the rolling stock using the national infrastructure. Basically, adopt an infrastructure & regulation system similar to that trucks operate under.

    shalafi,

    Perfect! Just like the interstate highway system, one of the smartest and most successful initiatives in American history. And like the interstates, this is a solid investment of our tax dollars.

    Let the private operators fight over pricing, both for commercial and private use. That’s a win for everyone, and the environment.

    If I could hop a train to New Orleans and just chill for a few hours, I sure as hell wouldn’t drive. People like me could move around, stimulating economies far from home. That in turn would drive cities to invest in infrastructure, give people a reason to visit.

    sadreality, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

    Daddy warren will call daddy Joe who will shut it down.

    Fucking you wage slaves.

    AllNewTypeFace, w Talgo 350 SRO High Speed Train in Saudi Arabia
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    Saudi Arabia looks very green

    PanArab,
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