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GeekFTW, (edited ) w Now you have to pay to see lyrics on spotify
@GeekFTW@kbin.social avatar

Still working for me with just the basic bitch plan on the web/desktop.

That being said: Fuck you Spotify lol

Edit: fuck GadolElohai and CybranM too ya low expectation having downvoting motherfuckers lol

FfaerieOxide, w Now you have to pay to see lyrics on spotify
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Do the people who wrote those lyrics get a cut of Spotify gatekeeping them?

Hauskrampf,

hahahahaha spotify and paying someone lol

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

Spotify is not profitable right now; their current revenue doesn't come anywhere close to covering their costs. The only reason they're able to survive is investors holding on to the belief that, some day, it'll be possible to actually make the numbers work.

lemann,

The majority of their investors are record labels now, so there’s also an incentive to prevent competing streamers from taking Spotify’s position

sparky678348,

Spotify purchases their lyrics from Musixmatch

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Musixmatch has a free, public database where lyrics are displayed. To contribute to the database, users can sign up and contribute lyrics, synchronizations, translations, and structuring to get points and move up levels. Musixmatch's points have no redeemable value, but are instead a marker of a particular user's contributions.

So no?

sparky678348, (edited )

You as an individual can go access the public free database. Spotify as a corporation is a customer of musixmatch.

about.musixmatch.com/business/…/Spotify

I’m not sure what exactly you’re trying to say?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Spotify is receiving money for something they did not create.

Neither the writers of the lyrics nor the fans who transcribed them get a cut.

That is fucked up.

sparky678348,

It is fucked up that the fans who are transcribing do not get a cut, but it’s not like they were misled to believe they would make a cut before they started doing it. The people doing that are doing it out of a passion for the music.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t be paid of course they should, if it was up to me I’d say make them all rich. I just think it’s a stretch to imply that Spotify is stealing anything here

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I like stealing. According to my belief system theft is good.

It's the fact Spotify is charging users for something stolen is what I think is fucked.
Something stolen should be freely shared.

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

The writers almost certainly do get a cut. Musixmatch does not own the copyright to any of the lyrics, and as such, negotiated with the copyright holders in order to be allowed to store, display, and sell access to the lyrics. This almost certainly involved some amount of money changing hands.

Spotify is paying money for access to the lyrics and using that as a feature in their product. A chunk of that money is almost certainly going back to the actual writers.

Whirlybird, (edited )

Spotify is receiving money for something they did not create.

Spotify are paying musixmatch for the lyrics.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Spotify are paying musixmatch for the lyrics.

musixmatch didn't create the content either.

Whirlybird,

Irrelevant. It’s up to musixmatch to pay the creators or supplier of their content, not Spotify.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Ah, the buygamekeys .ru approach.

Whirlybird,

It’s not up to Spotify to pay the wages of the company that provides a paid service to them.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Just to sell stolen goods, huh?

Whirlybird,

Stolen? Who stole the lyrics?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Anyone extracting rents on gatekeeping access to them.

Whirlybird,

No one is gathering access to lyrics.

Who “stole“ something here, and from who?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

No one is gathering access to lyrics.

I never said they were. The verb I used was gatekeeping.

You know, like how Spotify locks access to them behind a paywall. The exact thing I just described.

Whirlybird, (edited )

Autocorrect sorry, supposed to be gate keeping.

Spotify isn’t gate keeping access to the lyrics - you’re free to look them up on musixmatch or any of the other lyric sites and services. They’ve simply added them to their subscription services. You don’t know what gate keeping means.

You also still haven’t answer how anyone “stole” anything? Who stole what and from who?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Spotify isn’t gate keeping access to the lyrics

"If you pay us, you can see this. If you don't, you cannot see it."

Now who doesn't know what gatekeeping is?

You also still haven’t answer how anyone “stole” anything?

I have. Multiple times.

Whirlybird,

So every product on the market is gate keeping?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

How is freely copyable information no one who is profiting from wrote or transcribed a product?
It's rent-seeking and it's gross.

Whirlybird,

Spotify don’t just sell lyrics lol. The lyrics are just another of the features that require premium m.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Right. They gatekeep them behind a paywall. This is like the forth time we've been over this.

They are engaged in rentseeking behavior and that is wrong.

Whirlybird,

“rentseeking behaviour” is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard used to describe a subscription service.

Is that all this is - you dislike subscription services?

They can’t gatekeep something that is available freely and easily outside of their service. They’re putting their implementation of the lyrics being matched to the music inside their subscription service. That’s not “gatekeeping”.

You still haven’t explained how anyone “stole” anything either.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

They can’t gatekeep something that is available freely and easily outside of their service.

Can you see what they are there if you don't pay them? Do I need to explain a 6th time what gatekeeping is?

You still haven’t explained how anyone “stole” anything either.

Yes I have. You just keep ignoring everything I say.

Whirlybird,

Yes I have. You just keep ignoring everything I say.

You haven’t, so do it in reply to this. Who stole what from who?

Do I need to explain a 6th time what gatekeeping is?

I think you need someone to explain what it is to you tbh lol. Like I said, is this just you thinking that all subscription services are bad and “gate keeping”? Do you think needing to buy a ticket to go to a theme park is “gatekeeping”?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

What part of gatekeeping access are you not able to wrap your head around and how many times do I need to explain profiting off uncompensated labor?

Whirlybird,

Who is profiting off uncompensated labor? Who stole what from who? You keep dodging the questions lol.

Spotify pay Musixmatch for lyrics. Spotify are paying for a service. If Musixmatch are “stealing” lyrics from somewhere that’s not Spotify’s problem.

Do you just believe that ALL subscriptions and payments to access something are “gatekeeping” behaviour? Answer the question. Is a movie theatre requiring you to buy a ticket before you can see the movie “gatekeeping” and bad? Is having to pay to watch netflix “gatekeeping”?

This is getting unbelievable in how much you are dancing around answering any questions about your crazy train of thought.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

And how do you think axes get sharpened?

Whetstones! And you can't just smash a bat into a berry barn.
The edge is what gives axes ...pardon the expression... edge!

So if the gravy thickens what are you going to do with that apretrieaour of yours?

I hope you got some long-term strategy for weevils.

Whirlybird,

So you’re … not… going to answer the simple questions?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

And then you gotta talk about giant squids.

Them things is huuuuuuuuuuge. Like you can fit two regular size squids inside one and the big ones at that.

All wriggly and covered in equal parts suckers and slime.

Life is like that, my friend. You got all sorts of movement in it and it's trying to slip away from you AS (get is? as) it grips onto you.

Them suckers is painful too, because they got fish hooks in them. Squid fish hooks are natures fish hooks, that's why they used to use them as fish hooks.

Of course they had to catch the squid to cut its arms up and once they managed that no one wanted to use the hooks anymore as they had just went through the trouble of inventing a non-hook-related method of catching sealife.

And life is like that, friend.

Whirlybird,

aaaaaaaaaand blocked :)

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

And that's ANOTHER thing. You never cleaned the cheesewheel from the hampster aerdrion valtrex.

Why won't you address the cruise boat missive ?

Right, your moral cowardice.

tmax, w [HELP] Setting up a Jellyfin server with different (remote) storage servers

Have you tried Prowlarr instead of Jackett ? It’s really really nice !

lupec,

I second this, Prowlarr is way smoother to use in my experience

bernieecclestoned, w Megathread removed Edytjedhgmdhm
@bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works avatar

No one could spell it

hogart,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

Big brain move if I ever saw one!

VraethrDalkr, (edited )

Here’s how it’s pronounced: /ɛdɪtʃɛdʒm̩dʰm̩/

bingbong,

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.

VraethrDalkr,

Oui

JaymesRS,
@JaymesRS@midwest.social avatar

Seems like a simple acronym to me:

Everyone Do Your Thing, Just Episode Downloads (for) Home & Great Movie Downloads. Happy Media.

m0darn,

Everyone Do Your Thing, Just Eat Doritos, Hershey’s, Green Mountain Dew & Happy Meals.

Willem, w Using Edytjedhgmdhm

Bit late but the site got removed from the megathread, does that mean it is no longer considered safe?

whyNotSquirrel, w [HELP] Setting up a Jellyfin server with different (remote) storage servers
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

but the problem is that I don’t want to store the data on this server, but on the Storage Box. How can I download directly from one server to another?

Can’t you mount the Storage Box on the Server? Some other comments says that they allow SMB?

retiolus,
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

I only heard that it was not advise / that it did not work well, and I actually tried it myself instead of using rclone sync to upload the content to the storage, mount it on my local machine. qBitTorrent downloaded everything, but the content was never reflected on the storage.

reddthat,
@reddthat@reddthat.com avatar

You might have setup something wrong then. It should work. The problem with torrenting on 1 server and saving the data to another directly via smb/NFS is that every write is at the behest of uploading to that network storage.

What would be better might be that you:

  • add categories
  • mount /completed/tv/ as a network share to hetzner-storage
  • then only when the torrenting is done does it auto copy the data to the SMB share

I have this all done internally. I torrent on one box, it’s finished and gets moved via NFS to the storage server. Which sonarr/radarr file away. They notify jellyfin to resync the library. The jellyfin box has the storage box mounted via NFS.

If you can test with small files, IE copy a 100m file onto the SMB share and then see if that was replicated to the storage box then you will have the basis of the solution.

Katzastrophe, w [HELP] Setting up a Jellyfin server with different (remote) storage servers
@Katzastrophe@feddit.de avatar

Can’t help you, but I have to ask, why Hetzner?

They are a german server hosting company, you know, the country with some of the strictest copyright laws? For example, a kid at an old school of mine was once fined 800€ for accidentally sharing a song on a school hosted messaging board.

If you do anything with pirated torrenting on their servers, they will know, and will come after your ass. And even sharing pirated content can get you in incredibly hot water, they might not have found out yet, but when they do, good luck.

retiolus, (edited )
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

Hetzner because that’s what I had and have always had a good experience with them, anything else to recommend at the same prices? And that is a reason why I don’t download the content directly on their servers but on my local machine.

Katzastrophe,
@Katzastrophe@feddit.de avatar

The only one in a similar price range that comes to mind is ovhcloud.com, they are a france based company, still not ideal though, as they might require ID.

If money is the biggest factor (which I guess it is), best thing for you to do, might be to move your storage box off of the german servers and onto the finnish servers.

VonReposti,

I don’t think I’ve ever given my ID for my Kimsufi or SoYouStart servers. Both of them are OVH subsidiaries.

Katzastrophe,
@Katzastrophe@feddit.de avatar

I’ve heard they do it sometimes for high risk customers. Though they might have stopped some years ago

retiolus,
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

It is already on the finnish rervers! ☺️

taaz,

Even in the finish location, if any of the “law” fuckers scourging the open trackers, sends an abuse/dmca to Hetzner, you will have some explaining to do as they will raise it as a ticket and require an explanation as to what happened and what is your course of action to remedy it.

Source: my own experience about two months ago (used chatgpt to send them a neutral bussiness respone, worked like a charm)

Use vpn that allows port forwarding, or never touch public trackers at all, or both.

Rescuer6394,

they can detect piracy regardless. generally they set up honeypots and if you download a torrent from them, they will know and fine you.

retiolus,
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

How can they if I download everything on my personal computer using a VPN?

bier,

I’ve been using a Hetzner server for a couple of years now and haven’t gotten any abuse reports or DMCA takedown request but I’m using a docker + vpn setup so maybe it’s that

newIdentity, (edited ) w [HELP] Setting up a Jellyfin server with different (remote) storage servers

I’m not really familiar with the Storage Box, but since you mount the storage box on the Hetzner server anyway, why not download directly to it?

Apparently it supports SMB so you could use SMB instead of rclone and mount the drive with fstab, but I don’t know if it’s faster

retiolus,
@retiolus@lemmy.cat avatar

I only heard that it was not advise / that it did not work well, and I actually tried it myself instead of using rclone sync to upload the content to the storage, mount it on my local machine. qBitTorrent downloaded everything, but the content was never reflected on the storage.

newIdentity,

Another solution would be to set up a reverse proxy for your local network, but I don’t know if it isn’t a little overkill.

swallowyourmind, w [HELP] Setting up a Jellyfin server with different (remote) storage servers

I would recommend you look into Saltbox, which seems to align with what you are looking to do and should take considerable heavy lifting off your plate.

The solution to the rclone issues you discuss is to use a union mount, and cloudplow or similar to automatically shift files to the long term storage location, while Jellyfin will continue to see content files spread around servers in one mount location.

swallowyourmind,

Well you don’t need to worry about setting this up now.

Plex is banning Hetzner.

torrentfreak.com/plex-will-block-media-servers-at…

butter, w Looking for obscure, older television

What’s it called

Taliayvt, w Downloader for paid streaming services

I 'd like to recommend you with some ad-free video downloaders to help you escape annoying commercials. y2mate.ch/discovery-plus-downloadery2mate.ch/fanza-downloadery2mate.ch/crunchyroll-downloader

Taliayvt, w Downloader for paid streaming services

I have been using Y2Mate video downloaders for a period of time. They works well. y2mate.ch/hbo-downloadery2mate.ch/paramount-plus-downloader

cooopsspace, w Android Game Popup Ads

CalyxOS has a firewall built into it.

Install app. Firewall it. Enjoy your free game, provided the Devs aren’t assholes. Provide 1 star rating if they are.

Devjavu, w Looking for obscure, older television

Why would you watch popcorn. Just eat it.

jray4559, w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”
@jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It is bad for the consumer… but the alternative is instant cracks, as seen with a lot of games on r/Crackwatch that don’t have the DRM.

Denuvo is the first software in a long time that has been able to successfully stop the supposedly inevitable march to cracking. It’s a miracle that more AAA devs don’t use it, since it works so well. (EMPRESS aside)

You can hate me all you want for saying this, but the war against piracy, for the most part, has been won.

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