piracy

Magazyn ze zdalnego serwera może być niekompletny. Zobacz więcej na oryginalnej instancji.

words_number, w preach

I have a better idea: Instead of piracy, just don’t use/consume products that are exclusively distributed through shitty business models. At least when it comes to software, that’s much more effective.

Gto,

So, if you need this software and where’s no alternative?

nanometer, w Are SolidTorrents.to and Bitsearch.to down?
Flatworm7591, w Anyone knows reliable source for "Choice of games"?
@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shiver me timbers, ye be wanting the megathread

locked pirate chest

XEAL,

TIL!

SweetMylk,

Yeah, I went through them, but seems this type of games are kind a niche. Found only IGG & steamunlocked (most likely those are the same) sources, which are untrustworthy.

ipkpjersi, w How to get into private trackers

Trackers with open sign-ups are a good place to get started, also trackers with application forms are good for starting out too. If you have friends who are into private trackers and they know you are trustworthy and they have invites, that’s another way.

BlueAure, w Is Direct Connect still 'a thing'?

Purdue University still has a campus-only file sharing network called DTella that’s DC++. It been getting smaller, but there were a few members that shared 50+ TB at one point.

style99, w Japanese YouTuber convicted of copyright violation after uploading Let’s Play videos
@style99@kbin.social avatar

I wish the article did a better job of exploring the subject. It really only presents one side of the story, here.

nestEggParrot,

It clearly states what he did and on what he was prosecuted. How is it one sided? It doesn’t quote people from either side but rather states facts presumably from court filings.

If you want arguments on how this is bad or why such things shouldn’t be prosecuted, look for an opinion piece. Thats not the job for every news reporting.

NateNate60, w Facebook marketplace in my country is wild.

This is like the people who repackage and rebrand LibreOffice and then resell it for $10 on the Windows Store to gullible users.

And the worst part about that is that it doesn’t even break the law.

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

‘people’ smh

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s FOSS, what did you expect?

butter,

It can be argued that the libreoffice dude is providing a service. If you were deeply invested in the windows ecosystem, with most of your apps coming from the store and you also have like 20 windows computers, buying it for $10 is totally worth it.

1 click install and auto updates being the advantage. Not to mention a centralized way to make sure all your machines are running the same version.

It’s not like it’s a subscription or per machine license.

NateNate60,

The Windows Store limits the number of machines that you can install paid software on to 10. If you are managing a lot of computers you’d be better off with some actual management software or at least a package manager like Chocolatey. Then you can push software to your machines, run updates, or uninstall stuff whenever you like.

roon,
@roon@lemmy.ml avatar

Literally every use case you just said can be automated using winget, for free.

Windows store apps don’t even update half the time if you don’t open the store and manually update it yourself

nora,

Those repackages of libreoffice packages are actually official.

libreoffice.org/…/libreoffice-from-microsoft-and-…

These versions are free software (as in open source) but there’s a small charge to cover the effort of putting software in the app stores, and to help develop the software (and build our communities).

NateNate60,

They are not. I do not refer to the package called “LibreOffice”. If you search for “office” on the Windows Store, you’ll see a bunch of LibreOffice clones that are not branded as such and are not free of charge or contain advertisements.

kambusha, w DAZN's Early Piracy Targets May Include U.S. Govt. Domain Seizure Survivors * TorrentFreak

The frustrating part is that I have DAZN, but because they don’t have rights to all the competitions I’m interested in, I still have to pirate to watch them. If I had a menu and could choose competitions and even buy one-off games at-will (at a reasonable price), I wouldn’t resort to pirating at all for sports.

odium,

Same thing with movies and tv shows. I have prime, but it is missing a lot.

mp3, w Does anyone still burn their movies to DVD?
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

I still burn DVDs for my grandma who lives several hours away. She doesn’t have a computer or the Internet at home, so in order to share video clips from the kids I convert them to a DVD she can play on her TV. She’s so happy each time she receives a new disc in the mail and it allows her to see them grow between visits.

Pulp,

USB?

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

She finds it easier to just put the DVD in there, as it will autoplay the whole thing without any intervention, and I take the time to make a cover and everything.

MrBusinessMan, w Now you have to pay to see lyrics on spotify

Solid business decision by Spotify here, I support this move. I’ll probably switch over to them from YouTube music.

butter,

I know right. What’s Spotify’s goal with this move

Whirlybird,

What’s Spotify’s goal with this move

Get people to pay for premium…

butter,

So someone can ignore the ads, ignore not being able to chose a song, and ignore no download. But having to open musixmatch in a separate app is the straw that broke the camels back

TheMadnessKing,

The idea of suddenly having something taken away fro you really triggers people.

If they had introduced as premium from start, then no would have cared about it.

Whirlybird,

It seems they were right going by how upset people are in here. Many of these people that are carrying on like spoiled children will no doubt subscribe to premium now.

sysgen,

The goal is that now that they’ve been caught pirating lyrics, they have to pay MusixMatch for their lyrics, perhaps on a per request basis, so they lose money by making it available.

can, (edited ) w Now you have to pay to see lyrics on spotify

Why do people use Spotify still? Momentum?

Edited for clarity, I’m not saying music streaming I’m specifically referring to getting it from one company.

Whose CEO heavily invests in military AI

And pays artists’ (and of course labels) the least out of their competitors?

Mordachai_Shedbacon,

It’s convenient. It’s where all my playlists are… that said, I’m open to alternatives?

krimsonbun,

download mp3s from youtube. Use rhythmbox on linux and metro on android. Metro even tries to find the lyrics online

glacier,
@glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That is what I do, however it is very tedious when you want to listen to full albums, and add info to the file such as the album art and artist. Services like Spotify also sync your Library and playlist automatically across devices.

Sekoia,

I made myself a python script to automatically tag and download entire albums from youtube at a time. I use syncthing to automatically sync it all. Quality isn’t the best but I can’t tell anyway so

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Fwiw, some youtube to mp3 converters will let you convert full playlists (don't remember which, but there are a few).

Icalasari,

4k Video Downloader is one example, but I believe you need to pay for playlist downloading?

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

I've never had to pay, so worth looking around

iso,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Now thats what inconvenient is.

genoxidedev1,

Yup, can understand if your library is small, but for bigger libraries that's definitely the most inconvenient thing you can do.

Speaking from experience because I was basically forced to do it that way when I didn't have regular internet access yet. My library was longer than 50 days. Just Hip-Hop alone was above 100GB.

I used to find a shitton of music that way, but the inconvenience was real. Worst was music that I had to tag myself for example. Love mp3tag but that's shit.

krimsonbun,

I find it inconvenient to have limited skips and depend on one service to give you the song you want with the version you want. Also spotify ui doesn’t make sense to me, things just don’t work at times. Not to mention the ads.

zpoex,
@zpoex@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you pay for premium you won’t have most of those problems…

krimsonbun,

I don’t like paid services, especially when you can get the same or most of the same stuff for free. It’s just not worth it for me, so that is my suggested alternative, doesn’t work for everyone.

zpoex,
@zpoex@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not really trying to argue with you but we were not discussing your preference haha😅 Just trying to say spotify premium is pretty convenient at a cheap price

krimsonbun,

I’m saying if you find it worth it to pay fir premium go ahead, I don’t.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

There’s cracked apks out there for Spotify if you’re completely against paying

can,

Unlike movie and tv streaming music streaming convenience is no contest for piracy if you’re an enthusiastic.

And this is coming from someone would download albums and discogrpahies, using programs to meticulously tag and organize them. I wish I had the time and patience now, and for the highlights of my collection I will, but with my music craving a music stream subscription is well worth it.

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Mp3s from YT are garbage quality, it’s double transcoding from YT’s already low quality input.

scytale,

Yeah. If you’re gonna be downloading music from youtube, might as well just torrent flac or at least 320kbps quality instead.

iHUNTcriminals, (edited )

Torrents mostly have pop music ime.

(Popular music trendy, ie Brittany Spears, Eminem, etc.)

Whirlybird,

😂 torrents and Usenet have everything.

iHUNTcriminals,

Any good spots for oz music? Hiphop…

Whirlybird,

I’m not sure, don’t listen to it sorry. Pirate bay?

DrQuint,

This is the most 2001 comment I’ve read this week.

can,

Um, you need a hookup?

Destragras,
@Destragras@kbin.social avatar

You can download audio from YouTube as 160kbps opus files, which aren't lossless sure but it's the highest quality you can get from YouTube if alternate means aren't an option.

red,

And that’s trusting that whoever uploaded the track had a good quality source. And it’s still double encoded.

Pulp,

Any official uploads from recent years are going to be just fine. And if not then maybe their spotify upload is broken too

red,

Hq is equivalent to 320kbps, noticably better than YT quality

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Well if you save the opus or aac it’s only single lossy compression, not double unless the uploader used a lossy file as their input. But if that was the case, ripping mp3 would be triple lossy compression…

Whirlybird,

160kbps is garbage tier.

Destragras,
@Destragras@kbin.social avatar

For mp3 sure, but for opus standards 160kbps is great. I read that 128kbps is generally considered the most you need but 160kbps smooths over any artifacts, assuming the source file doesn't have them.

krimsonbun,

I haven’t noticed any quality issues and I only listen to mp3s from youtube

realcaseyrollins,

You can download relatively good sounding audio from YouTube but you need to be using the right format in YouTube-DL, which not all downloaders do

can,

What about NewPipe?

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Then you probably don’t know any better because the vast majority of YT uploads are terrible quality. If you have anywhere near decent headphones/earbuds you can hear the difference immediately.

krimsonbun,

Well I’ve used spotify with and without headphones on popular phones, I can’t tell the difference from youtube. I usually download the music directly from the original uploader.

jochem,

I was big into downloading before streaming services were a thing. Music streaming is one of the few services that’s totally worth my money: no hassle and I rarely have to resort to other platforms to find what I want (very different from video streaming, which totally sucks when it comes to that).

ribboo,

100% this. Paying $12 a month for basically all music I’ll ever want to listen to, is just an amazing deal. It’s so convenient. Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

can, (edited )

Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

Yep, that’s the step they forgot: be more convenient than the pirates.

Psychonaut1969,
@Psychonaut1969@kbin.social avatar

Can I use any of those at the same time I am playing a game on ps3/ps4/ps5 they way they have integrated spotify? I use spotify because it is available on the devices I use. I would use bandcamp on them if it were an option as I love my collection there but, it is not available on many of the devices I use.

krimsonbun,

personally I don’t find that convinience worth it for the money/ads and other inconveniences, but that varies from person to person

balderdash9,
can, (edited )

Well, piracy, but I’d say apple music or tidal, etc are even better than Spotify. There are services for transferring your playlists.

Some are paid but if it’s just a one time transfer you could do them all in a free trial window.

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

Been using Soundiiz.com for that!

can,

That’s the one! I’m sure there’s many options though.

People, don’t let your playlists stop you from shopping around streaming services.

Aopen,
  1. Listen on YT with adblock
  2. Download audio with Newpipe (OPUS 160kbps)
  3. Manage files with Amaze
  4. Listen with VLC

I like this model, because YT has niche creators and I dont have to care about “Spotify changes X” news. Note: I have 1.5GB songs stored locally and listen ~30 minutes daily. I acknowledge discovering new songs is slower

Whirlybird,

160kbps? Jesus no lol

can,

What’s OPUS compression like?

Aopen,

For Opus codec its when you hit diminishing returns stage

…wikimedia.org/…/Opus_quality_comparison_colorbli…

Whirlybird,

Learn something new every day!

What devices can play OPUS format?

N1cknamed,
@N1cknamed@feddit.nl avatar

All of these are absolutely awful in terms of convenience.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

You can just use NewPipe background player. NewPipe lets you create and save playlists. No ads.

blargerer,

Momentum is the driving force behind all enshitification.

SuiXi3D,
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

You nailed it. People’ve been using it for so long they don’t want to use any number of paid or free services to automatically move all their playlists and whatnot over to a different service.

Whirlybird,

Maybe people are happy with Spotify?

CybranM,

What would you suggest as an alternative?

metaStatic,

xManager

can,

What’s that?

hdgdlfiuebdtus,

I dont know

can,

thx

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

I don't get why anyone would use the free tier - not being able to choose songs would actually drive me insane, let alone the ads - but $11 monthly for essentially all the music anyone could ever want, plus solid playlists and recommendations, is a perfectly good value for me. Admittedly, I listen to music all the time and it's a pretty big part of my life, so it's an easy sell.

I guess the free tier is still an improvement over radio, but regardless, producing and distributing music has costs, and I'm more than happy to pay for it. Given that Spotify isn't even profitable, having lost about a billion dollars last year, I'm not sure how long this situation will last, but for the time being, I really don't mind it.

Iceblade02, (edited )

11$/month is 132$/yr. That’s a significant amount of money - about the same as my car insurance, broadband or phone bill. Putting a bunch of good music in a playlist and letting it roll is nice enough, especially with a 3rd party app to mute ads automatically. Besides, I don’t feel sorry for Spotify. The reason they’re hemorrhaging money isn’t a lack of profitability, but due to the massive royalties going to record companies.

E: spelling

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

For the median American that works full-time, who earns around $56,000, the cost of Spotify is 0.2% of their income.

Obviously everyone is in their own financial situation and for some people that will still be a burden. But for sake of comparison, in 1989, the average cost of cable TV was $18, and that's of course in 1989 dollars. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that $11 for unlimited access to basically all music at any time is a pretty good value for the money.

That said, if it is still onerous to someone, they're obviously not in ideal circumstances and I'm really not gonna fault them for just pirating.

Iceblade02, (edited )

Swedish student (Median full-time wage here is 35’790 USD equivalents before an avg ~30% payroll tax), not taking loans, working part time teaching (and occasionally nursing) to make ends meet, so yeah, pretty cash strapped atm.

Also, note that I already do have access to all the music in the world for free via youtube if I want something specific, or spotify for “radio style” infinite listening. 1440SEK/132USD is for added conveniences. No real need to pirate anything.

Whirlybird, (edited )

If $132 a year for unlimited access to pretty much all the music in the world is a significant amount of money to you then Spotify is the least of your worries.

Also your car insurance is $130 a year? What are you driving, a cardboard box and only in your living room? Your broadband only costs $132 a year?

Press X to doubt.

Iceblade02, (edited )

Swedish student (Median wage here is 35’790 USD equivalents), not taking loans, working part time teaching (and occasionally nursing) to make ends meet, so yeah, pretty cash strapped atm.

As for my car, not a cardboard box, but apparently there are 25 packs that cost as much as I bought it for five years ago. Just the mandatory traffic insurance, but it ends up at almost exactly same price.

Also, note that I already do have access to all the music in the world for free via youtube if I want something specific, or spotify for “radio style” infinite listening. 1440SEK/132USD is for added conveniences.

can,

Spotify isn’t the only company offering a monthly fee though.

nave,

Actually you can choose songs and create playlists on free tier.

nooneescapesthelaw,

I love their algorithm

kratoz29,

The random algorithm needs to be polished though.

iHUNTcriminals,

Random usually sucks for everything that I’ve used.

They should have two… True random and one that ‘radioifies’ your library.

refurbishedrefurbisher, (edited )

Basically exclusively because of Spotify Connect and the network effect. A lot of the music I listen to isn’t even available on Spotify.

I prefer Deezer’s recommendation algorithm. I don’t have experience wity other streaming services.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

If you have an eclectic music taste and don’t spend your life next to a computer, there’s practically no other option

can, (edited )

Apple music, Tidal, etc.

Spotify is funding military AI tech. That’s enough for me. I’m on android but I’d still rather use Apple Music, plus they pay artists slightly more, and tidal pays more than them.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

I hate to tell you but everyone is funding scary military tech, even if you’re not an American tax payer. If you’ve flown on a Boeing plane, used Microsoft software, worn Oakley sunglasses… all that revenue goes to companies who do or support that research

can, (edited )

I wouldn’t pay a recurring fee to any of them either.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

I mean I just named some of them, my point is you can’t avoid funding the military unless you live under a rock. Such is the military industrial complex

rockhandle,
@rockhandle@lemm.ee avatar

Tidal, Deezer, Qobuz, Funkwhale, Apple Music, Youtube Music, just to name a few. Spotify has no shortage of competition.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

My point is there’s little actual difference between them. Identical services provided by greedy corporations with shitty track records

rockhandle,
@rockhandle@lemm.ee avatar

You said there’s no other option, I just listed some options. Also Funkwhale is decentralised, there’s no corporation backing it. Ofc, you can also just download the music you like.

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

😂 practically no other option, my friend. Haven’t heard of Funkwhale though, sounds interesting. And no, as I mentioned in my first comment, downloading isn’t feasible for people with eclectic tastes cuz I just can’t keep up with my spontaneous “need” to listen to that one album that hasn’t even crossed my mind in 20 years

Whirlybird,

Because it’s fantastic? Because it has almost all the music out there? Because it has an app on every device under the sun? Because it has amazing artist discovery? Because it lets you know of upcoming shows in your area?

Why wouldn’t you use Spotify if you’re a music fan? I’ve got 200gb+ of music on my NAS that I use Plexamp to listen to but I still subscribe to and use Spotify more.

can,

I’m saying use one of the many streaming alternatives.

Do people use “Spotify” as a generic term for steaming?

can, (edited )

I’m saying use one of the many streaming alternatives.

Do people use “Spotify” as a generic term for steaming?

Whirlybird, (edited )

Do people use “Spotify” as a generic term for steaming?

No, they use it to mean streaming from Spotify…?

You asked why people use spotify still, and I answered with many reasons why people specifically use spotify. Not every streaming service is the same, and spotify is widely regarded as the best.

can, (edited )
Whirlybird,

That’s got nothing to do with why people use spotify though.

I don’t care if their CEO invests heavily in Military AI, neither do I care about them paying slightly less peanuts than Apple and Tidal. Bands make money from shows, not from CD sales or streaming. Execs make money from streaming and cd sales.

can,

Hey, if those aren’t caveats for you, or just just prefer an interface too much to care, by all means, do you.

Whirlybird,

I will.

Maybe ask the question you actually mean next time rather than the exact opposite one to what you want answered.

N1cknamed,
@N1cknamed@feddit.nl avatar

Because they have the best offer and it’s well worth the money. If you want to avoid shady CEO’s you might as well go live in a cave. And last I checked artists are doing absolutely fine financially.

fraydabson, w Anyone knows reliable source for "Choice of games"?

Master thread?

kniescherz, w Source for full concert recordings?

There is one private tracker I know of: DimeaDozen

Hard to maintain a ratio though.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

This is the one I came to recommend as well

Kolanaki, w Now you have to pay to see lyrics on spotify
!deleted6508 avatar

Even then you might not see them. I’ve noticed recently that a ton of songs that used to have the lyrics attached no longer show the lyrics or have the button to show them. And I do have premium.

s_v,

I noticed that as well, and I, too, have premium

unonessun0centomila,

Meanwhile, I’m sitting here with my pirated apk and I can still see all the lyrics 😂

bblfrnz, w Is Direct Connect still 'a thing'?

It is still used. There are lots of various hubs, a bunch of niche hubs with content that is almost impossible to find anywhere else, especially if it’s something really old and obscure, not all of them are public. Speaking of clients, try AirDC++ for instance, thats what I use right now

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • giereczkowo
  • Blogi
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • muzyka
  • sport
  • lieratura
  • rowery
  • esport
  • slask
  • Pozytywnie
  • fediversum
  • piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • niusy
  • Cyfryzacja
  • krakow
  • tech
  • kino
  • LGBTQIAP
  • opowiadania
  • Psychologia
  • motoryzacja
  • turystyka
  • MiddleEast
  • zebynieucieklo
  • test1
  • Archiwum
  • NomadOffgrid
  • m0biTech
  • Wszystkie magazyny