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swope, w Is Ernest still here?
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It would be more likely to be critically hit by an SUV or pick-up, just saying.

roguetrick,

Fuck cars really is a mantra huh?

sadreality,

If you got money to afford to live in place where you can get away without a car, otherwise you paying for it and it won't cheap either

FfaerieOxide,
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hit by an SUV or pick-up

Are there alot of those in Poland?

roguetrick, w Is Ernest still here?

I've "moved" with the intention of moving back if things turn out alright. It's nice the site is functional for us to talk to each other, but at this point kbin is "down."

athos77, w Is Ernest still here?

Someone in another thread said he had an operation about a month ago, but I don't have any details other than that.

HarkMahlberg, (edited )
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Yeah he did have a medical procedure, on top of just finishing with divorcing his wife. Guy's got plenty on his plate I'm sure.

FfaerieOxide,
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just finishing with divorcing his wife

Has—against his best wishes—he been shot?

Note: This is an irreverent reference to an event and I have no more reasons to think he has actually been shot than I do to believe she was in hospital having GRS.

In any event I imagine Ernest is fine.

squiblet,
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Phew, sure is reassuring that our confirmation of this is that you imagine it.

FfaerieOxide,
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You want me putting out in the universe the opposite? Them's dangerous vibes to be fucking around with.

Either Ernest is fine and you can take comfort in that knowledge or Ernest is dead and you can take comfort in the knowledge that you can do things like throw up websites and they can keep going months after you kick it.

I don't think if Ernest were dead you and I would be talking about it on kbin.social.

squiblet,
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Seems kind of extreme to suggest such a drastic scenario. The possibilities are more numerous than either he’s 100% fine or dead (which, btw, you are the one “putting that into the universe). I wouldn't guess that’s what people were thinking… rather that perhaps he was in ill health, had lost interest or had other projects that were taking priority, perhaps due to practical financial considerations. Thankfully Ernest has posted an update answering this question, and he says while he has been hindered by some health circumstances recently, things are basically on track.

FfaerieOxide,
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you are the one “putting that into the universe

No, I put out into the universe that he was alive. You are welcome for the vibes.

I wouldn't guess that’s what people were thinking

He hasn't been, like... hit by a bus or anything

That's what people said they were thinking.

FaceDeer, w EXIT 0.1.0: Export subscriptions across kbin/mbin instances
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I just gave this a try and I think there's a potentially worrisome problem, it silently failed on a lot of community subscriptions. The ones that returned HTTP 500 errors were listed in the "fail" list that the importer script generated, but a whole bunch of others returned 404 errors and weren't listed in either the success or fail lists.

So I advise those running this to pay attention to the error log to avoid losing track of those communities rather than trusting the "fail" list.

shazbot,

I'll try to reproduce this and look into tightening the error handling. A 404 error should imply that the magazine is not available at the remote. Are those magazines available at the target instance? Agree that those should at least be added to the log--perhaps should add a third category for "Unavailable." Remember that it will also navigate you to the magazines list at the end for visual confirmation.

When you said community subscription, were you referring to something in particular, or just using this term generically to refer to magazines?

FaceDeer,
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I haven't tried all of them, but the ones I did check were ones that had not had posts on them at their source instance for quite a while. A few random examples:

I had 43 failures and 111 successes, so visual inspection wouldn't really help. I kept copies of the error log and the script output in a text file to figure it out later.

I assume that this means these communities haven't had activity since fedia.io opened, and so fedia.io doesn't know they exist? I've always wondered how the first person to subscribe to a community on an instance is able to do that.

And yeah, I'm using "community" to refer to "magazine".

shazbot,

Hmm, this is a good finding. Just on a cursory review, I had a look at the magazines list on fedia, and it does list magazines with zero threads, comments, posts, or subscribers on them (on other instances other than kbin.social). So maybe you've discovered a problem with kbin.social's federation? I don't know too much about this issue, so this is just my initial reaction before looking into it further.

shazbot,

Addressing your issue, I have bumped the version number to 0.1.3 and made a change to the async method handling so that instances not available at the remote get added to the fail log correctly.

This doesn't explicitly address the fact that some instances are unfederated, but it will make the log results clean.

As for the federation issue, what I've initially found is that a user on an instance has to visit the remote instance for the home instance to be aware of this remote instance, and a user (could be a different user) has to subscribe to that instance for the posts to start federating. What is unclear is how a user on an instance visits a remote instance from the home instance, as this is implementation-specific and could vary from instanc to instance.

FfaerieOxide, w Is Ernest still here?
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He hasn't been, like... hit by a bus or anything

Heaven forbid but the hosting bills are paid up through now at minimum.
You got to think if he were (again, forbid) dead or something the site wouldn't refresh and we wouldn't see ads for drugs and pirated MMA streams.

stopthatgirl7,
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The fact that we’re sitting here theorizing where Ernest is like he’s Kate Middleton is why this can’t be a one-man operation anymore. It’s too much for one person to begin with, and when people have no idea what’s going on, they’ll start going wild with theories as to what’s going on.

FfaerieOxide,
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The fact we're here talking on kbin.social when for all we know Ernest is talking to aliens right now on some Jodie Foster Contact shit shows how rather robust this place actually is when you think about it.

stopthatgirl7,
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The site errored out repeatedly when I tried to like a comment, so “robust” is not the word I’m thinking right now.

FfaerieOxide,
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The site errored out repeatedly when I tried to like a comment

Has there ever been a time kbin.social didn't do that from time to time? 503 is a friend of mine at this point. Neither one of us has abandoned this place for twitter so this place is clearly at least robust enough (code- and community- wise) for us still to be having this conversation here.

Heck, I could (though won't and don't yet) argue the errors are a feature to keep you getting hooked on scrolling. There's at least 2 projects I have finished I wouldn't have worked on if this place hadn't been down at the time.

stopthatgirl7,
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Has there ever been a time kbin.social didn't do that from time to time?

You understand that’s not a selling point, correct?

Hilariously, I got an error message trying to load the notification for your comment.

And as I’ve said before, I can put up with wonkiness. But I can’t put up with no communication and not knowing what all is wrong or how long things are going to be messy. I like kbin, but I do not like wondering if social is going to go belly up with no warning and no idea when it’ll get fixed when it did start erroring out for days and no way to find out what’s even going on.

Gamers_Mate, w Biggest Interstellar update yet: now on Google Play, Lemmy support, user/magazine mentions, and much more

Nice I will have to check it out.

Hello_there, w To those genuinely interested in moderating

Ernest, please act on assigning mods to any of the magazines where you are the sole mod. The spam on those is significant and there are people willing to help. E.g. m/internet

Pamasich,

Make sure to actually mention him if you want this to be seen. @ernest

Badabinski, w Biggest Interstellar update yet: now on Google Play, Lemmy support, user/magazine mentions, and much more

This is excellent news! I've been installing from GitHub for a while and have been really pleased with how fluid the app is.

readbeanicecream, w Federation Delays
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@roguetrick I really like kbin and want it to succeed, but between the outages, spam, and errors it is really difficult to use.

I have accounts on beehaw, mastodon, and pixelfed. I am open to other suggestions, but once I find a "home" (on kbin or otherwise) I will delete the others.

HarkMahlberg, w Federation Delays
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Much as I love the software, I made accounts in a few other Fedi platforms just to have some "outs." Don't put all your eggs in one basket and all.

readbeanicecream,
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@HarkMahlberg I did the same thing since I am not sure of the longevity of kbin.

@roguetrick

readbeanicecream,
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@HarkMahlberg Curious what other platforms, if you don't mind me asking?

@roguetrick

HarkMahlberg,
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Really just the big ones. Lemmy, Mastodon, and Misskey. In my humble opinion, judging by the software alone, Misskey > Mastodon, kbin > Lemmy. Judging by the culture is a lot harder because it depends on the instance.

Aatube,
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Why not mbin?

s0ckpuppet, w Federation Delays

I'm a big fan of Kbin but the project is a total mess right now and kbin.social is always down or only partially working. And there's next to no communication about what's happening.

I don't wanna do it but it might be time to pull up stakes and figure something else out.

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
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I really like kbin, but honestly, with as unstable as it is and how little information is coming out about what’s going on (seriously, there needs to at least be a Mastodon account we can check for updates or information when kbin social is down), I’m seriously considering making a lemmy account and moving over. It’s frustrating, because I do really prefer kbin, but this is beyond frustrating.

roguetrick, (edited )

With how much you post, I'd imagine it'd be a problem for you. Posting something only for it to show up on their new feeds 3 hours later with zero votes will likely result in your stuff not being seen. Also makes it hard for @PugJesus modding.

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
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I don’t actually mind stuff not getting seen, it’s more not knowing if the site is going to error out when I try to look at it or check replies. Trying to access the site, or trying to upvote things, and getting error messages that are less than useful gets old fast.

Ragemidi,
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maybe give mbin a shot before switching to lemmy

readbeanicecream,
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@stopthatgirl7 Agreed. I have been using Beehaw more and more as a "test". But I am not sure where I will land in the end though.

Maestro,
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If you haven't been following, there's a chance that Beehaw will defederate from everyone and go solo in the future. So, you may want to create a test account somewhere else.

readbeanicecream,
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@Maestro Really good to know!! Thanks for the heads up.

@roguetrick @s0ckpuppet @stopthatgirl7

tiredofsametab,

Yeah, I switched over to an mbin instance; it was just too unstable and unpredictable for me on kbin.

s0ckpuppet,

Are the Mbin instances well federated so you're still getting about the same mix of content? They all seem pretty small in terms of subscriber count

FaceDeer,
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I just set up an account at fedia.io, which is an mbin instance. When I ran the script posted over here to copy my subscriptions I had 111 subscriptions succeed and 49 fail. I've been checking the ones that failed and they've all been ones that haven't had anyone post in them for 5 months or more, so I'm guessing those are "dead" anyway. Seems not too bad, I'll see how it goes I guess.

I posted this same response from both of my accounts, I'm going to watch to see how well it federates back and forth.

s0ckpuppet,

Yep actually did the same myself with fedia and that script. Also had some fail which I think were likewise abandoned.

s0ckpuppet,

Yeah the comments are not federating across fedia/kbin. I'm only seeing your comments on this thread when you've posted them on the server I am currently viewing. Even 8 hours after you commented.

FaceDeer,
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Weird. Your initial comment federated, since I was able to see it from both instances. All these responses to it did not, though.

s0ckpuppet,

Oof. This definitely needs to get sorted out asap. It would be the death of a federated platform centered around discussion. It's kinda one of the main tasks.

Pamasich, w To those genuinely interested in moderating

I assume ownership requests need to be manually approved by ernest, right? I've tried applying to some (not ernest-managed ones) weeks ago because of spam on them and nothing happened yet.

Kierunkowy74, w Any API Updates?
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API has not been enabled on kbin.social yet, but is already active on https://kbin.earth

CoffeeAddict,
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Good to know! I guess we will have to wait for ernest to come back then to enable it on kbin.social.

I hope he is doing well, his last post mentioned a hospital visit.

ISometimesAdmin, w EXIT 0.1.0: Export subscriptions across kbin/mbin instances
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Cool that this is a thing!

shazbot, w Any way to export and import subscriptions?

A bit late, but I saw your post and decided to make a tool for this. Hope this helps.

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