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Gordon_Freeman, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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yeah, I spend more time downvoting a blocking spammers than anything else

HeartyBeast,
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I spend a lot of time downvoting and reporting and I've volunteered to co-mod the worst offending subs that I'm subnscribed to. It's not clear that any of this has any effect.

At this point, it feels like a bit of a lost cause.

Drusas,

What we really need is more people stepping up to moderate.

rhythmisaprancer,
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Are there some key magazines that need it? I will step up, if only to play whack a mole as I understand it.

Drusas,

I'm honestly not sure. I haven't been seeing too much of these problem accounts myself. I moderate m/politics and it hasn't been a problem for us yet. I would suggest making a note of which magazines you are seeing this behavior on, and if it's something that is up your alley, reach out to Ernest to ask for moderation privileges. He's very happy to give them to others who are dedicated.

rhythmisaprancer,
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Ya I've perused the list, but there doesn't seem to be overlap. Maybe I should just grab one, any one, to get the hang of it.

ProdigalFrog,
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https://kbin.social/m/opensource is plastered with spam, that would be a good one to moderate.

rhythmisaprancer,
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I'm not sure how to request that one since it has an active owner. I did request another that was available.

HeartyBeast,
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I’ve volunteered for several over the last month. Never heard a thing. -in particular science, fediverse, tech where large amounts of spam seem to occur and which seem abandoned

rhythmisaprancer,
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We could at least offload some work from Ernest

DessertStorms, w /kbin Issues
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I'm sure you're aware there has been an issue with people/bots spamming CP on some lemmy instances, I'm not sure if I happened to see them before removal, or if removal still isn't federating properly (since I know the admins/mods have been trying to implement additional solutions), either way, these posts were still showing up on all/new last night/early this morning (GMT), so it might just be worth double checking on your end if there is any way to stop this.

MoogleMaestro, w Cross posting norms and etiquette?
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A bit of a miscelaneous request, but I would kind of like a single button "x-post" for articles so that I can quickly cross post to related communities. If it's a thread (like this one, and not a link), it would link directly to the thread and and also show the comments of the thread (basically becomes a pointer to an article)

Kierunkowy74, w Cross posting norms and etiquette?
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Posting the same link to 3 magazines is enough IMO. Your /kbin account can be followed via Mastodon and similar services, and Mastodon interprets crossposting as completely different posts.

ReallyKinda,

Follow up if you have time, do both threads and microblogs federate with mastadon? If so, do they appear different?

Pamasich,

They both federate and they both look the same I think.

However, Mastodon search works by tags iirc. And kbin/lemmy users tend to not use tags. So discoverability is low.
The Microblog section is supposed to add the magazine's tags to your posts there, though I don't know if it currently does. I remember reading issues about it not being the case, but those were rather old, so not sure about the current status.

Kierunkowy74,
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They appear as another toot - with title, summary (shortened if it is long) and link. Like shown on an image.

(BTW this means, that articles will not be shown in their entirety, contrary to microblog posts)

Kierunkowy74,
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Forgot to say, but all /kbin posts will have at least one hashtag - the name of the magazine.

daredevil, w Cross posting norms and etiquette?

I just use it to bring awareness to similar magazines/communities across the fediverse

HeartyBeast, w To those genuinely interested in moderating
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Has anyone actually been accepted as a moderator? I requested to help moderate /science a while ago - just because it was full of spam - and I've heard nothing - not even a rejection. Still happy to kill spam.

daredevil,

Since @ernest is the owner for that magazine, I think moderator requests have to go through him. Unfortunately, he was dealing with a slight fever awhile ago, and has been dealing with financial planning and project formalities awhile back as well. Hopefully things haven't gotten worse. For what it's worth, I think it's great you're eager to contribute. There have definitely been some spam issues recently. I hope a solution can be found soon. Maybe even something like posts which have a <10% upvote-to-downvote ratio over a day/week can be temporarily quarantined until an admin approves of it. Anyways, best of luck with modship.

shazbot, w Is there a way to message a user?

If using KES, check General > Add mail iconto append an icon/label next to a username to directly message them. (If on the same intance as you)

Vegan_Joe, w Is there a way to message a user?

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/ab198c28-5a77-405d-b8ca-f833a4548a46.webp I am using sync, and the option to message you is there once I go to your user page.

HubertManne,
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yeah morgunkorn explained it and I was just having some mental blindness or something. im smacking my head at how its location is right where you would think it would be. don't know how I missed it.

morgunkorn, w Is there a way to message a user?
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When you click on a user name (at least in the web version), you land on that user’s profile and there’s a button “Send message” to write privately.

Please note however that the admins of the instances will have access to theses messages, they are not encrypted.

HubertManne,
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yup one of those mental blindness things I think. Even after you said I could not find it and then did a control f and low and behold its like right there. don't know how I did not see it. even has a mail icon.

ghostatnoon, (edited )
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Do note that you can't currently message users on other instances from kbin. The button will still be there, but it will bring you back to the homepage. I believe Ernest said something about it being "unimplemented," so I'm assuming cross-instance messaging will happen someday, but is probably not a high priority at the moment.

HubertManne,
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thanks. that is good to know. its a rare thing but once in awhile I want to message someone.

daredevil, w What's the quickest way to find a magazine/community you've subscribed to?

You could make a (private) collection for your subscribed magazines. Not exactly the feature you were asking for, but it's an option to curate your feed. On Firefox I have various collections bookmarked and tagged so accessibility is seamless.

Gordon_Freeman, w url link blocking. What happened to it.
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You can still do it

More > More from domain > press the block icon

HubertManne,
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thank you so much. I guess its just not as obvious as before.

originalucifer, w url link blocking. What happened to it.
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i really like this idea, and i can't believe it doesnt exist.

it sounds like it did exist, but for some technical reason it was removed.. it could be something very innocuous like the code was terrible, and needed a rewrite, or a library was used that needed to no longer be used and it has not yet been replaced.

HubertManne,
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yeah it definately existed at one point and was likely the most effective blocking tool compared to user level and magazine level.

Kierunkowy74, w Combating spam on kbin - some thoughts
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A) Appoint more administrator (or other system roles with the ability to block/delete spam accounts)

@ernest already wanted to do this back in this autumn. It looks, that /kbin software actually was not ready to this, though. :/

HubertManne, w Combating spam on kbin - some thoughts
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Honestly I would be fine if new accounts could not post at all for a bit. There was a big issue of no one posting content when folks were coming here from reddit. I think that is because it was regular folk and many of us follow a pattern of hanging out and getting comfortable and then replying to stuff and eventually posting stuff. this is how real human beings are which is why people were sorta gung ho to bot copy pasta from reddit but I like how humans are. Granted personality will effect this. type A maybe will engage sooner or such. Anyway I would have been fine if I could read only for a week and then reply only for a month and then finally be allowed to post. If someone becomes a mod non of these limits would apply to magazines they mod. Not sure how this would work with federation though. I still would love to sign up for others block lists. I like this user so I want to auto block anyone they block. I really like things to be controllable at the user level.

BaldProphet, w Combating spam on kbin - some thoughts
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Most of the magazines being spammed in right now only have a single moderator, and it's Ernest. He needs to appoint additional moderators for magazines that he is the only moderator of.

Prouvaire,

Agree, but it's not a question of him appointing moderators. It's a question of people stepping up and volunteering to be moderators. There are literally thousands of kbin magazines which are currently abandoned, ie where the moderator of the magazine hasn't been active on kbin.social. Anyone can volunteer to take over ownership of these magazines by clicking a button, but there isn't enough interest in the userbase at the moment.

However, you are correct in that spammers are targeting the bigger magazines like m/fediverse, and because Ernest is owner of these magazines but is active on the site, these magazines don't appear in the abandoned magazines list. I agree that in order to ease the administrative burden on him, Ernest should call for additional moderators for these most active magazines, and even step down as the owner of these when one or more replacements have been found.

Chozo,

I went ahead and requested mod for a couple of those mags. I wouldn't be able to dedicate too much time to it, but I could at least take on a janitorial role and help clean up the spam that keeps flooding in.

rhythmisaprancer,
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What all is involved on moderating? I haven't gotten involved in any of that, I come from a bulletin board back ground, not reddit, but I am sure I am not the only person without a relevant background who is willing to be helpful in some capacity. It will just all be new. But it seems like having a warm body to delete posts could help a lot!

Prouvaire,

Magazine moderators have the ability to delete posts in their community (also pin/unpin them) and ban users from their community. I don't think it would take a huge amount of time as a rule - it's just a matter of checking in regularly (I suppose ideally several times a day) to see if there are any moderator actions that need to be taken.

Beyond that, moderators typically play a role in curating content and setting/monitoring community guidelines. But we've been talking about people being appointed solely to carry out the more technical/administrative functions in certain magazines to prevent the recent flood of spam. Ie, people have said they'd be happy to ban spam accounts without necessarily taking on the curation of the magazine in question.

BaldProphet,
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I requested to be added as a moderator to m/opensource, which is one of the worst offenders right now. Hopefully Ernest will accept some of the requests that people are making.

I think it's actually a good thing that there aren't a ton of moderator applications. It means the userbase aren't the same basement dwelling keyboard tyrants that Reddit had. Still, right now we could use more mods either way.

Prouvaire,

Ernest hasn't posted since last week, so hopefully he's okay. He's alluded to having a fever and having to figure out kbin's finances (and a bit before that, mentioned that he had to take on another job to cover the bills), so I'm guessing life has gotten in the way of kbin. It's worth bearing in mind that all the threadiverse projects are basically someone's hobby at the moment.

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