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livus, w RTR#30 Monthly Recap and Planned Next Steps
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Thank you, these improvements are great!! I am really glad you are prioritizing stability. Also, I don't want you to be overworked. I feel like you understand the potential of the fediverse, and how best to create something good and lasting.

It just seems to be working better in general, and it feels like I am seeing more content and maybe even more engagement.

If I have to pick some, improved moderation and collections are my favourite improvements. I'm already finding collections useful (both mine and other people's). I like how we can see crossposts too.

I wasn't able to work out how the * button worked (and now it's gone for me on mobile), but that's okay.

Thanks for sharing your site with us, and all the work you do. It's really exciting seeing it develop!

ernest,
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The * button has been replaced by All Content in the header (or sidebar in the mobile version), Cheers :)

livus,
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@ernest omg so it has! That's so convenient!! Thanks!

box464, w RTR#30 Monthly Recap and Planned Next Steps
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I noticed today when setting up a "Fediverse" collection, that another collection already existed with that name. When I went to view my collection, it was showing the other /fediverse collection instead. I changed my name to "FediNews" and that cleared it up.

So, going to https://kbin.social/u/box464/c/Fediverse goes to the other /fediverse collection - actually it still does! Not sure how that is happening since I don't have that name reserved now.

ernest,
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Routing fixed, thanks!

leadore, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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I feel stupid, is this currently available? It seems yes, some people say they've made one, but I can't seem to find either a "Categories" or "Collections" option. Sorry, I don't know which area is called the "user panel", but I've looked at the tabs across the top, and in all the menus (+, channels, profile).

I did see the collections tab on the Magazines page though, and I see Random Collections in the right side panel, just can't find where to create my own category/collection.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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Go to settings and click the collections tab. Tbh, it feels a bit hidden rn, and I'd love to see at least some sort of link on the Magazines page in the future.

leadore,
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Thanks but I looked in Settings. There aren't what I would call "tabs" there, but there are different sections (General, Sub channel, Threads, etc) but nothing called Collections.

WAIT, never mind, I found it in the other "settings" I forgot there are two different places for Settings. Thank you

ADHDefy, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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@ernest, you are doing amazing work! I hope you're taking care of yourself, too. :)

In a future update, do you think you could add the ability to set a default sort? I prefer to set my home feed to Top, 1 Day, and it's easy enough to just bookmark https://kbin.social/sub/top/1d on my PC, but I primarily use kbin as a PWA on Android and AFAIK, there's no way to set a custom home page. It would also just be convenient to open kbin to my preferred sort on any platform. :)

poVoq, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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Will there be a way for communities to opt-out from being listed in a category?

I think there is a lot of abuse potential in this and even if well intended, a single word or so can’t really describe what communities are about, and as a result those categories (similar to the “all” feed) will bring a lot of off-topic comments and trolling from people not engaged with the communities at all otherwise.

On Mastodon with hashtags the original poster can at least make a conscious choice of being listed under it or not. But this seems fully third party driven and I fear it will increase moderation workload significantly.

ernest,
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I don't understand how content grouping can be used for potential abuses, to be honest. Collections are related to the user, so it will be subject to instance moderation in case of such an attempt. The community can also switch to private mode - then this content will not be aggregated in collections. Moreover, from what I know, there are already external tools that do similar things.

poVoq,
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Most trolling and brigading is fairly low effort, and having a sharable collection of communities to troll makes it much easier to organize lots of people to do just that. Edit: yes external tools for that exist but having it built in makes it much easier to abuse and rope in people to do the trolling that otherwise would not bother.

But my main concern is that this isn’t opt-in for communities. Having a sharable and subscribable link with for example “meme” communities means that all of them are seeing a constant barrage of random people commenting that are not members of that community and do not have any idea what the community is about other than that it is somewhat loosely related to “memes”. It basically hides everything that is vital about the communities and actively damages attempts at community building.

ernest,
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I understand now, I'll think it over during the weekend. I haven't really considered it before because the fediverse is still a relatively small and close-knit community imo. Excluding a specific instance would likely involve PR proposal to Lemmy's repository, but that's fine. Thanks for the feedback.

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes

Will collections get a way to tag them like magazines?

ernest,
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Additional options will probably be introduced in the near future, but for now, I need to attend to other matters ;)

livus, (edited ) w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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@ernest I just made one! Thank you, this is super super cool. Least boring update ever!

Small issue: I can't get it to let me add @world. It just adds more and more options that end in .world and if I manually type it, it won't add. Might be because I'm on mobile.

Solved. I just have to be more patient and let it search more before I scroll.

VerifiablyMrWonka, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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Knocking it out of the park!

gibandaley, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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Awesome! Multireddit like functionality was what I was missing most, and Categories sounds like it will replace it nicely. Thanks!

Teppic,
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I think it complements federation too. Suddenly you can have a collection of magazines sharing a name/topic from different instances all listed together in one place. That's really quite cool!

livus,
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I agree. This is really harnessing the power of federation!

testing, w RTR#29 Another boring update: Categories and bug fixes
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@ernest
you are so fast! how do you do that?

ernest,
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This is just a prototype, there will probably be some errors to fix ;-) But I want to see how it performs in practice and over time, I will refine the whole thing, and that will take a bit more time.

gibandaley,
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Yeah, I favorited my private collection (not sure why I did that...) and it seems to have permanently made it public, no big deal in this case, but I feel bad 'squatting' on collection slug.

ernest,
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Actually, I named it incorrectly. I treated as private collections those that don't appear in the listing, but you can still share them with friends. I changed it so that they are truly private, and I will add another status someday - non-public.

gibandaley,
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Thanks! Looks like logged out the collection isn't accessible at kbin.social/c/collection-name anymore which is excellent, but is still accessible there when logged in (unexpected, though perhaps only accessible to my account, but I feel bad I might be squatting on a nice collection name) and is also accessible at kbin.social/u/gibandaley/c/collection-name (expected)

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, (edited ) w RTR#28 New Homepage Options, Improved Aggregate View, Support Us Box
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

Awesome stuff! I'm loving how these features are shaping up.

A few further suggestions on the aggregate view:

  • Like Threads and Microblog, All Content should have a number next to it (just the number of threads + the number of microblog posts).
  • I think the homepage setting should be split into "homepage feed" (all, subscriptions, moderated, or favorites) and "homepage view" (all content, threads, microblogs). That'd make the current dropdown a lot less cluttered.
  • It'd also be helpful to have a "default view" setting that applies when you go to any magazine or feed. For example, if I go to /m/Kurzgesagt and my default view is set to All Content, it'll start on the All Content view.

Should you keep the homepage setting as it is, there are a few issues with the dropdown:

  • When you select something, the only text that shows is the feed, not the view.
  • When you select something, the option that you currently have saved moves to the bottom of the dropdown.
  • Not sure if this has always been a thing, but the dropdown uses "Subscriptions" while the channel list in the header uses "Subscribed".

ETA: One more issue I forgot to mention — when you click All Content on the favorites, moderated, or subscribed feed, it sends you to the all feed.

Kierunkowy74, w RTR#28 New Homepage Options, Improved Aggregate View, Support Us Box
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Curious to see, than https://kbin.social/* consists entirely of threads, and https://karab.in/* almost entirely of microblog.

Kierunkowy74,
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asterisk breaks a link.

Working links:
kbin.social, karab.in

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

On kbin.social, posts featuring Lemmy posts receive more upvotes, and it defaults to sorting by "Hot content." For a more accurate representation, sorting by "Active" or "Newest" or */sub is recommended. On the other hand, karab.in primarily federates with Polish Mastodon instances, and szmer.info is not as popular, hence the difference.

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#28 New Homepage Options, Improved Aggregate View, Support Us Box

Awesome work as always! The new all content page is much more convenient and I don’t think I've ever seen someone be this considerate while advertising (if you could even call it that). One thing I've noticed is that the support us part of the sidebar is somehow in French for me. I don't have any language settings set to French and this is the first time I've encountered such an .

ernest,
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support us part of the sidebar is somehow in French for me

I just fixed that ;)

ContentConsumer9999,

Yup, seems to be fixed! Thanks for the quick response.

testing, w RTR#27 Aggregate view, work on federation
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@ernest

https://kbin.social/*/sub

this is massive, could lead to addiction ;)

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#27 Aggregate view, work on federation

I really like this but currently it seems really difficult to activate it. Could you maybe turn this * button to a switch to indicate when it's on or off and to make sure it doesn't turn off when switching pages?

ContentConsumer9999,

To add to this, can you let us make our the aggregate view?

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