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thanks_shakey_snake, w NOAA says ‘extreme’ Solar storm will persist through the weekend

Friday was amazing, tonight was a bust (but just looking at stars on their own was pretty cool, so no regrets)… Fingers crossed for tomorrow and Monday!

niktemadur,

Where abouts?
Where I’m at - northern Baja - of course there had to be a persistent nighttime marine layer, which only starts to clear once the sun is up.

Hikermick, w [Eric Berger] Seeing this eclipse is probably the highest-reward, lowest-effort thing one can do in life

I live in the path of totality and I’m already tired of hearing about it.

Letstakealook,

Agreed. I’m not looking forward to it either. I’ll be at work, most people are probably going to call in, and there will be hours of traffic when get off.

Rolder,

Best chance I’ll ever have personally. Live in the path, work from home, good time. Plan is to just step outside for a bit, look at it (with protection) then back to work.

HeartyOfGlass, w "Cannibal" star left with metal scar after swallowing its planet

I see it’s time for today’s round of “Headline or Slayer Lyrics”

Potatisen, w Big, doomed satellite seen from space as it tumbles towards a fiery reentry on Feb. 21 (photos)

That’s not a satellite, that’s the Empire coming for us!

Sendpicsofsandwiches,
@Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works avatar

THEY’RE STRIKING BACK!

Tetra, w Map reveals all the space junk we've already littered on Mars
@Tetra@kbin.social avatar

I'm glad the article mentions that in this case, it really doesn't matter; like, there seems to be nothing to 'pollute' on Mars (also 7 tonnes is not much at all). Bit of a strange headline to me.

xor,

if it gets contaminated with earth life the it’ll be harder to detect martian life…

PoopingCough,

You’re not wrong with your sentiment but i think it’s pretty safe to say that if we find life on Mars it’s gonna be trapped in ice somehow or deep below the surface. Besides having next to no atmosphere, it also has no magnetosphere which means it takes the full blast from solar radiation. Nothing living on Earth could survive outside on the surface of Mars.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Tardigrades could potentially survive, but they would starve to death.

xor,

we have quite a bit of life that thrives just under the surface… within nooks and crannies of dust particles… inside Chernobyl… in ocean volcanic vents…

i think mycelia are the only thing that can live off of just raw rock though (the vanguards of life)
but, spores are pretty small and everywhere…

personally i think we should get over looking for life on mars and seed it with whatever has the best chances…

a deep valley has a thicker atmosphere and more shade from the sun, btw…

Tetra,
@Tetra@kbin.social avatar

I suppose so, but I believe they always make sure not a single trace of Earth life is left on the equipement they sent to Mars, for obvious reasons. So they already control for that.

Besides looking pretty messy, I'm not sure this does any harm.

xor,

nasa sure puts a lot of effort into it… can’t say i feel confident about other countries that crash into it…
on top of that, nasa has recently found that they’ve been breeding bacteria that lives off of their disinfectant, and so no they don’t already control for that.

XeroxCool,

Mars is inhabited by robots, but the Moon is inhabited by tardigrades because China crashed a lander.

xor,

this one?

Sad news for the tardigrades that were on board Israel’s Beresheet mission, which crash-landed on the Moon in 2019. Researchers have learnt that the microscopic animals, which can survive the vacuum of space and heavy-duty doses of radiation, wouldn’t have lived through the crash.

XeroxCool,

Wrong country and wrong outcome, I really nailed it. Given how hardy they are, I can’t say I’m convinced they’re all dead. Not that they’d actually be active without air and water

exocrinous, w [Eric Berger] Seeing this eclipse is probably the highest-reward, lowest-effort thing one can do in life

No, it’s really hard to go to America.

xantoxis, w A Mysterious Impact Left 2 Billion Craters On The Surface of Mars

~ Mysterious ~

I guess it’s true that we don’t know exactly what kind of rock hit the planet and created 2 billion craters from ejecta.

On the other hand, that makes every impact on every planet ~ mysterious ~

clickbaity.

Thorry84,

In true clickbait fashion the article then goes on to describe in detail said mysterious thing. Almost like it isn’t mysterious at all.

MeDuViNoX,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thank you for teaching me how to type ~ in the small. ~

ChicoSuave, w James Webb telescope spots potential conditions for life on 2 dwarf planets beyond Neptune

There are five confirmed dwarf planets in the solar system: Ceres, Haumea, Eris, Makemake and the ex-planet Pluto. All of these planetary pretenders, apart from Ceres, are located in or around the Kuiper Belt, a disk of comets and other small objects beyond the orbit of Neptune.

Pluto is so far from the sun and still has never seen such shade.

gravitas_deficiency,

Bah gawd what have they done to my boy

JimVanDeventer,

Wait, Sedna is also a dwarf planet, isn’t it? And Gonggong? And all those other dwarf planets?

Kolanaki, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering
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Maybe it’s that thing from Star Trek: Generations that trapped Kirk.

caseyweederman,

really narrows it down

fitjazz,

Nexus was definitely my first thought when I read the headline.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Thank you, sending a link to this article along with your take, to my message groups, has brought me and my friends real joy

cmbabul, w Frozen water discovered on Mars could fill Red Sea

We’re gonna mine space for water ain’t we

HurlingDurling,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Only if we use water as a fuel source

ahriboy,
@ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Is the Martian dust safe?

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Hello it’s me Cave Johnson, turns out Martian dust is a terrible poison, I’m gravely ill. Good news is it’s a fantastic paint.

DharmaCurious,
@DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

If there’s one thing doctor who has taught me it’s that the waters of mars of are completely safe, and they do good things for the body.

cmbabul,

Not that time is really just a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff?

reflex,
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

We’re gonna mine space for water ain’t we

Oye, beltalowda!

littlebluespark,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Na du push xidawang kaka felota shukumi ere milowda, mi beratna (o’ sésata), na! Milowda ge da kaka end fo da shetéxeting na materi keting fong da tumang, amash ye. 😱🙅🏽

5714,

Well not you personally, Terran, but yes.

essteeyou, w After 30 years, I'm finally going to see a total solar eclipse. Also, Potato World is a thing.

I hope it lives up to expectations!

I drove 2200 miles for this solar eclipse. I booked a place here in Dallas last year, and now it seems like it’s going to be cloudy with rain and thunder. :-/

I convinced my dad to fly over and join the road trip.

At least we got to see some incredible stuff on the way! Maybe there will be a break in the clouds…

suchwin,

I was in the same boat, 2000+ mile drive. NE Texas isn’t looking too bad right now! But if you’re up to it, drive up to Arkansas. I did that today from Austin-ish. Clouds up here are looking much more optimistic!

essteeyou,

I just unpacked, and there’s no way I can take another day in the car! :-D

It’s my birthday tomorrow, so I’m hoping to just take it easy.

SaintWacko,

I debated packing up my stuff and driving a couple hours to Mena, but I’m not sure the weather is going to be any better there…

Kichae,

I’ve heard that it’s still a surreal experience even when overcast. Though, that’s what I had to believe to actually book the hotel room and days off work as somene living on the north-atlantic coast.

CheesyGordita,

I was able to see the one back in 2017 smack dab in the middle of the path of totality and it was such a surreal otherworldly experience. No amount of trying to explain it to other people helped them really understand. Things look a weird way and there’s a very unique feel to it all.

My advice, get things set up, get your shots, start your recordings, but don’t forget to take 30seconds or so and just soak it in and be in the moment!

Enjoy! I’m super excited for you!

Thcdenton, w Rainbow-like pattern found on planet outside solar system
givesomefucks, w Powerful X-class solar flare slams Earth, triggering radio blackout over the Pacific Ocean

The abundance of back-to-back solar events has led scientists to think the sun may have entered its explosive era of peak activity, known as solar maximum — which seems to be starting a year earlier than previous forecasts predicted. However, researchers will have to wait until the sun “calms down” to know for sure.

What we do know is that X-class flares are most common during solar maximum, which is part of the sun’s 11-year solar cycle. So far in 2024, seven X-class flares, including the latest one, have burst from the sun, which is already half the number that reached Earth in 2023, Live Science previously reported.

On a long enough timescale, we’re gonna be hit by a big one.

I remember like a decade ago they were saying it hits a developed area, it’ll blow out all the transformers, and on that scale no country could replace them all for a very long time.

Australis13,

I agree. There were articles and documentaries about 20 years ago that I remember featuring these sort of events. The continent affected would take 20-30 years to rebuild its electricity grid.

givesomefucks,

I’ll just never get over how “we” (science I guess) know that stuff like this isn’t a question of if, but when.

And we just don’t seem to get ready for it.

Like, Y2K we saw coming and everyone handled it in time. But if there’s no firm date on something, everyone with the power to do anything just ignores it.

As a society it just feels like we’re living paycheck to paycheck. Can’t worry about next year cuz rents due in two weeks shit.

It’s just not a good way to go about things.

Australis13,

In general, people are appallingly bad at weighing up long-term vs short-term stuff, both in terms of risks and benefits. It's even worse when, as you say, there's no definite deadline or it doesn't directly affect those who can do something about it.

Rolder,

“No electricity” definitely sounds like an “everyone” problem lol

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s an EVERYONE problem, clearly SOMBODY is doing something, so I can safely ignore it. /s

slazer2au,

What you didn’t see was the guy who made the problem in the 60s warn everyone about it from the 70s onward until his retirement in the 90s, then everyone say oh shit, he is right.

sploosh,
givesomefucks,

Yes, we get hit by them all the time…

What everyone else is talking about is a big one.

sploosh,

The Carrington event was a big one. It is estimated to have been an X40 flare. This article is about an X1.1 flare. Telegraph poles caught fire. The auroras were so bright people woke up and started making breakfast even though it was the middle of the night. They were visible as far south as central Mexico! If we got hit by a Carrington scale flare today we would be repairing the power grid for the next half century.

Rolder,

I believe it’s possible to avoid if the proper protocols are in place. Namely, the grid has to be turned off completely before the flare hits and then things will mostly be fine. Just wonder how well we can predict these events.

Australis13,

My understanding is that we actually don't have much of a warning (under an hour), since a CME has to reach the satellite at the Lagrange point between Earth and the Sun for us to know it's about to hit Earth. According to the article below, this includes power companies, but I remain skeptical that there's enough organisation in place to shut down the North American, European or Asian grids in 15 minutes.

https://www.space.com/coronal-mass-ejections-cme

jordanlund, (edited ) w After all of This Time Searching for Aliens, is it The Zoo Hypothesis or Nothing?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

FTA:

“Either extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) are incredibly rare (or non-existent), or they are deliberately avoiding contact with us (aka. the “Zoo Hypothesis“).”

There is a 3rd possibility - it may not be deliberate.

Our position in the Milky Way is really out on the ass-end of it. We are nowhere near galactic central. If our current understanding of slower than light travel is correct, it just may not be possible for other civilizations to reach us.

When it comes to communications, and our radio sweeps of the galaxy turning up nothing, well, we’re assuming any advanced civilization is still using radio transmissions.

Look at our recent experiment with laser based communication:

www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/world/…/index.html

100 or so years after radio communication was widespread, we have the technology to eliminate it. There may be other methods orders of magnitude beyond that. We could be awash in alien communication streams we just can’t percieve because ours are too primitive.

themeatbridge,

There are also hundreds of other theories that can potentially explain it. Like, 100 years really isn’t a long time on cosmic scales. Maybe we’re late to the party and intelligent life wiped itself out already. Maybe we’re early, and we will wipe ourselves out before a new intelligence even figures out where the copy paper is.

For as big as space is, time is bigger.

evranch,

We don’t want to be near the galactic center, there’s too much radiation. A quiet spot out on one of the arms away from supernovae and active objects is a much better place for life to evolve.

At this point our own radio is even too advanced for an alien civilization to detect. An interesting thing about radio is that aside from a few lingering powerful analog signals (AM/FM radio, active radar) our modern spread-spectrum radio is hard to distinguish from background noise. It’s an interesting consequence of information theory, as bandwidth and noise tolerance grow, if you aren’t looking for a signal it becomes almost invisible. We also do a lot with very little power now due to these amazing encoding methods, when I was a kid and the analog cell phone was novel we would have outright said that a phone could never communicate directly with satellites. Not enough power or antenna in your pocket. Yet here we are.

So any civilization that develops radio is only likely to send out a short burst of detectable radio before disappearing within 100 years, even without switching to an alternate technology. This makes radio an almost impossible thing to search for in a vast galaxy where time can separate us even more than space.

Ghyste, w Planet Nine: Is the search for this elusive world nearly over?

No.

JackGreenEarth,

Batterige, or whoever it is’s, law of headlines ig

deezbutts,

Godwin

Ghyste,

Betterige is correct.

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