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state_electrician, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

There goes the real estate market.

HootinNHollerin, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Are the wobbles just from the gas cloud being pulled by gravity from everything?

Tristaniopsis, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

That doesn’t make sense. Is it 72 years or a day?!?

Clent,

Sounds like it’s 72 orbits per Earth day.

Shit headline.

Reminds me of Facebook posts that intentionally show the wrong answer to increase engagement.

po_tay_toes,
@po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Yes.

BakedCatboy, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Had to read the article to find out that they mean 72 “years worth of orbits” happen in 1 earth day. Although unlikely I was hoping that it was orbiting so fast that 1 earth day there would pass 72 earth years to a stationary observer due to time dilation. Not sure how fast it would need to go for that to happen.

XeroxCool,

Since time and speed are relative, to have 1 Earth day on the star and see 72 years on Earth, it’d simply be a speed multiplier of 72*365.24= 26,296.28 times faster. Our solar system orbits the galactic center at 250km/s or 0.0008c, so ~26k times that puts it at nearly 22c relative to us. So no.

But quite frankly, there must be a way to be a slower observer. Earth’s orbital speed is about 30km/s (0.0001c) so that drops the product way down to 2.6c. And while the Parker Solar Probe holds the record for the fastest man made object at 0.0006c at its closest solar approach, it actually took a lot of energy to slow it down to get it to the sun and stall it’s orbit. Otherwise, it’d just orbit it the same as the Earth. It slides out to a Venusian distance from the sun at apogee and drops to 12km/s, halving the differential requirement to +1.2c. But if everything is relative, how do we even determine where 1c is and know it’s so definitively impossible to reach? I don’t know, I’m starting to have an existential crisis. Maybe time just keeps dilating and simple addition/subtraction doesn’t apply for appreciable values of c so you have to start multiplying in decimals.

BakedCatboy,

Relativistic time dilation is nonlinear, so the time dilation “multiplier” approaches infinity as you approach the speed of light. So you will never need more than 1c to pass any finite amount of time for the observer while only passing a smaller amount of time for the moving object. Using a time dilation calculator, it looks like 1 day inside the moving object to 72 years for the stationary observer works out to roughly 99.9999999% the speed of light (9 nines total). Of course if you take into account earths movement as a “stationary” baseline then it’ll depend on whether you’re moving with or against the fast moving object.

It used to melt my brain too but there’s no need to know “absolutely stationary” since you’re comparing 2 objects. And due to the time dilation, the 1c limit is different depending on the observer, the time dilation will prevent anyone from observing >1c even if one person is going 0.9c relative to another person who is also going 0.9c relative to a stationary observer.

muhyb, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that title.

adj16, w NASA looking for 4 volunteers to spend a year living and working inside a Mars simulator

Dang I was kind of interested in this but it looks like you gotta be smart smart

umbrella, w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

at one point we have to realize theres an infinite number of small rocks orbiting any given planet

maniacalmanicmania,
@maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone avatar

Why you gotta be so mean to my itty bitty moon brothers and sisters?

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

The itty bitty satellite committee

elmicha,

Does Earth also have such small orbiting rocks that are a few kilometers wide?

Bumblefumble,

No, we only have one moon. I think the gravity of the moon is too large for other moons to be in a stable orbit around Earth.

_NetNomad, w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny
@_NetNomad@kbin.run avatar

i wonder if something that size would even have noticable gravity

NoIWontPickaName, w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny

They really need to change the name to Urectum to end the jokes about how to pronounce it

Lucidlethargy,

Agreed, but knowing scientists that’ll probably take at least 596 years to achieve.

banghida,

Tbh no other language but English has the same problem. In some languages it is simply ‘Uran’, and it does not mean anything but Uran.

TotalFat,

Urasshole

h3mlocke, w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny

That’s no moon that’s a space station.

muhyb, w James Webb telescope spots potential conditions for life on 2 dwarf planets beyond Neptune

Isn’t that too far for habitable zone?

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the zone for liquid water at the planet surface. There’s other sources of heat; gravitational pressure, geothermal vents from plate tectonics, etc. In this case they’re looking for methane with a chemical signature that indicates it comes from geothermal activity as opposed to other processes that generate methane.

SpaceNoodle,

Space cows?

ArmoredThirteen,
muhyb,

I see. Thanks for the explanation.

Andrenikous,

Why methane specifically?

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

So that’s also studies by astrobiologists looking at atmospheric methane because we know it can be created in large quantities by metabolism in an organism in addition to non organic processes, and in the atmosphere it reacts to sunlight so it needs to be replaced to stay present in large quantities.

This is something different where they’re looking for chemical signatures, primarily methane, indicating geothermal vents which we’ve seen providing the energy to sustain life on earth at the bottom of the ocean. If abiogenesis requires some non organic processes like sublimation, evaporation, heating up and cooling down, etc to allow a self repeating process to start and continue to hold form until it’s able to use sugars to continue to maintain itself instead of depending on its environment to kick start the life process then you’ll want to look for those phase changes or boundaries like water/atmosphere or extreme heat/cold to provide the gradient that natural process may need like those studied in systems chemistry.

ChicoSuave, w James Webb telescope spots potential conditions for life on 2 dwarf planets beyond Neptune

There are five confirmed dwarf planets in the solar system: Ceres, Haumea, Eris, Makemake and the ex-planet Pluto. All of these planetary pretenders, apart from Ceres, are located in or around the Kuiper Belt, a disk of comets and other small objects beyond the orbit of Neptune.

Pluto is so far from the sun and still has never seen such shade.

gravitas_deficiency,

Bah gawd what have they done to my boy

JimVanDeventer,

Wait, Sedna is also a dwarf planet, isn’t it? And Gonggong? And all those other dwarf planets?

thebardingreen, w Webb discovers neutron star within supernova remnant - NASASpaceFlight.com
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

You mean exactly where you’d expect to find one?

Etterra, w Webb discovers neutron star within supernova remnant - NASASpaceFlight.com

The giant space maw is hungry.

SubArcticTundra, w Webb discovers neutron star within supernova remnant - NASASpaceFlight.com
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Webb discovers the Eye of Sauron

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