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WalkingOnEggshells, w The IAC confirms the existence of a Super-earth in the habitable zone of a Sun-like Star

My life for Super Earth!

Didros, w Astronomers discover repeating radio bursts from distant 'dead' galaxy

Do we know what we did with radio when it was first discovered to know what it would be like if it bounced back to us? Or would it not have been strong enough?

acockworkorange,

Quadratic decay plus reflection losses plus only a fraction of the emitted signal being reflected: pretty much guarantees we wouldn’t be picking it.

some_guy, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster

He’s fucking things up in space, even.

Quill7513,

his stupid fucking internet satellites make planning getting things into orbit real hard. also it’s not even his tesla in space. he stole it from mark eberhart

Plum, (edited )
@Plum@lemmy.world avatar

And his 6,000+ starlink pieces of trash in orbit have made earth based telescopes worse. They get in the way of the shot, and the emissions are something like 10x worse than promised.

Him and that tetraethyl lead guy. Just absolute stains.

Edit: no its 32 times the noise. It’s a known issue, and it’s been happening since the beginning.

Peppycito,

Nit to mention all the methane his rocket is adding to the upper atmosphere.

halcyoncmdr,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

SpaceX rockets don’t add Methane to the atmosphere. When you burn something, you’re not adding that thing to the atmosphere, you’re adding byproducts from the combustion, and Methane isn’t one of the byproducts of any rocket fuel.

Starship uses methane as a fuel, but that’s not at all the same thing. Methalox engines are one of the cleanest burning rocket fuels after Hydrolox. When burnt, methane just becomes CO2 and water vapor along with a bit of NOx (Nitrous Oxide, aka laughing gas, aka that boost you see in Fast and the Furious) as well.

Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are Kerolox (Kerosene, RP-1) engines. RP-1 is basically just a highly refined kerosene. When burnt, it will produce CO2, water vapor, NOx, carbon soot, carbon monoxide (which again mostly becomes CO2) and a little bit of sulfur compounds. The exhaust is nasty but it is not that different from what a normal internal combustion car produces. And even with the large amounts, it is still lower than what cars/trucks/SUVs output to get everyone in your city back and forth to work, the grocery store, and home on a daily basis.

Peppycito,

Rocket engines don’t just immediately start, propellant has to be flowing through the turbo pumps before the flames start. Same at shut down. On the video you can see vapour coming out. That’s either methane or oxygen. How much of either? We can’t say because spacex doesn’t talk much about it. Same with ‘venting’ which happens quite a lot as shown on the videos as well. Whether it’s a little or a lot, it’s definitely more than was there before launch.

And that’s on a successful launch. Scott Manly talks about the last launch and shows how the methane levels were draining on the ship way faster than the oxygen levels, pointing to at least incomplete combination and probably methane puking out the back. Methane may be ‘clean’ when it’s burnt under optimal conditions, when it’s conflagrated in a RUD it’s less so.

Yes, yes, “it’s a drop in the bucket, it’s a tiny percentage of blah blah blah” which works fine until they start launching 3 per day. Then the question of what methane (a highly potent greenhouse gas) does when it’s directly added into the upper atmosphere gets answered.

XeroxCool,

NOx is not Nitrous Oxide and is not short for Nitrous Oxide. Nitrous Oxide is specifically N2O. NOx refers to both Nitric Oxide (NO) and Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2), both of which are far, far more damaging to health and atmosphere than N2O. NOx emissions are the reason diesel is generally nonexistent in US passenger vehicles - not even great mpg numbers have sufficiently-low NOx emissions.

Even if it included N2O, using nomenclature with a variable like “NOx” and grouping it all together as one inert byproduct vastly underrepresents harm. Imagine if you referred to another group as “COx” but saying it’s relatively inert and easily detected by way of a burning lung sensation but feeds plants so it’s not all bad because Carbon Dioxide (CO2) has that effect. Carbon Monoxide (CO) is completely left out of that description and will silently kill you.

Kecessa,

The part you’re not talking about is that there’s no catalytic converters on rockets tough, so it’s more like running a carbureted car than a modern car.

Kichae,

But muh rural internet is not as good as muh urban internet! So, forgiven!

glimse,

How many times can a chunk of our tax dollars go toward paying private companies to not deliver rural broadband? Let’s find out!

Kecessa,

In many locations it’s the difference between having Internet and not having it at all. The only issue with it is it being privately owned.

snausagesinablanket,
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  • deur,

    Sorry dude but most people have shit they care about alongside other things. Fuck starlink.

    Quill7513,

    that he keeps metering access to because he has a clear favorite in that war and it ain’t Ukraine. have you talked to any Ukrainians how they feel about the world’s richest nazi? because the Ukrainians i’m in community with fucking hate that guy and actively seek technological edges to treat starlink as actively hostile to their usage.

    JokeDeity,

    But are they really? And as much as they could be? It’s just another tool for him to control and fuck people.

    halcyoncmdr, (edited )
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    Not really here, this would have been a dummy weight either way since it was the test payload for Falcon Heavy. So *something *was going to be sent up. The Tesla specifically was a publicity stunt, but a similar weight was going into a similar orbit.

    The bigger question is why they lost tracking on it in the first place to where they weren’t sure what it was. This wasn’t from any sort of failure, this was a planned and fully successful launch payload into a planned orbit.

    shitcomputerologist,

    Tracking doesn’t necessarily have to be lost for this kind of thing to happen. The Rosetta spacecraft was accidentally given a provisional asteroid designation in 2007.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(spacecraft))

    Earflap, w [Seeking Advice]Amateur Radio Telescope

    This redditor is both a ham radio operator, and an actual radio astronomer! Might be willing to answer some of your questions, maybe.

    conditional_soup,

    I dunno if you meant to link to a sub instead of a user, but that’s what I’m seeing. That sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing!

    Earflap,

    She’s very popular and I would imagine gets lots of messages. I’m not sure if she would prefer to have you message her directly or post on the subreddit. Either way, Andromeda321 is the real deal. Good luck! Be sure to post your pics here, I bet they’ll be real cool!

    conditional_soup,

    Awesome, thanks! Don’t hold your breath, though. Right now, this thing is paying for itself, and it’s not much. My first goal is to get a used DSLR so I can take promotional pictures. I know it’s a manually slewed scope, but I’m not trying to take crazy multi-hour exposures, I’m trying to show what people might expect to see IRL, and take promotional shots of people on the class. Then, I’ll probably look at making the radio telescope rig more seriously, hopefully before summer.

    homesweethomeMrL, w JWST facing potential cuts to its operational budget

    Well now that the idiots of all stripes have put us in this exciting new world, let’s see what the optoins are:

    • Change nothing, and get cut
    • Put advertising in space and get cut
    • Ask oligarchs for money to make AI use JWST real good (but don’t of course)

    Or the most obvious and pathetically realistic option: rename it for trump and watch it’s funding remain the same or even get a little tiny bump.

    anindefinitearticle, w JWST facing potential cuts to its operational budget

    telescope is late to make sure it is good

    inflation happens during delay

    original budget estimates for operations are now too low due to inflation

    the entire budget is 1/4000 the military budget, but instead of shoring up this rounding error to make sure that one of our country’s most impressive engineering feats stays usable, we could always just throw it out to bomb more brown kids.

    Sane and rational country.

    GlassHalfHopeful, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster
    @GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

    Can we please fine him a few billion dollars for intentionally littering in space?

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    Better fine the US government or NASA for all the Saturn V upper stages that are floating around up there as well. Nearly every Saturn V third stage was sent into an orbit around the sun after the Lunar injection maneuver, they’re all still up there. In fact, they lose track of those and “rediscover” them all the time because. The three-body problem is not fully solvable with our current technology, and the further out you get from initial conditions the less accurate calculations become.

    GlassHalfHopeful,
    @GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

    I mean, I’m very okay with that too. 😁

    SanctimoniousApe, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster

    There oughtta be a sci-fi short story competition using this for a basis - what happens when aliens eventually come across this bizarre piece of junk in space?

    troyunrau, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster
    @troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

    Fuck Musk. But also, this is a nothingburger – there are plenty of spent upper stages floating around the solar system.

    ramenshaman,

    As a KSP player I can confirm this

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    This entire thread is filled with people that know absolutely nothing about Space but the basics modern “media” poorly conveys, but feel the need to comment and display their ignorance proudly just because they hate Musk. It’s quite sad actually for an actual Astronomy community, there’s worse discussion in here than reddit.

    reddig33, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster

    Yay more space garbage. Just what we needed!

    atzanteol,

    It’s in orbit around the Sun.

    RamblingPanda,

    We all are

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    The point is that it’s nowhere near Earth to cause an issue like Kessler Syndrome, which the space junk comment is clearly referring to.

    The car is space junk like every other test payload or probe we’ve ever sent out into space that we’ve lost contact with is space junk.

    queermunist, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster
    @queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’d be so funny if Kessler Syndrome was started by a car accident.

    Mk23simp, w Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster

    Things would be going much better if he was behind the wheel of that car.

    Sal, w [Seeking Advice]Amateur Radio Telescope
    @Sal@mander.xyz avatar

    I don’t have any recommendations, unfortunately. But this is very interesting! I have gotten into software-defined radio recently and radio astronomy seems like a good direction to continue learning. Hopefully someone has some good advice.

    JoeDyrt57, w [Seeking Advice]Amateur Radio Telescope

    @RemindMe 2 days

    TauZero, w City-size comet racing toward Earth regrows 'horns' after massive volcanic eruption

    What a disgusting clickbait title 🤮. The comet is not “racing towards Earth” any more than say Mars is (and Mars comes closer to Earth than this comet will). Maybe some day we’ll live in a world where journalists do not sensationalize headlines with a mix of Deep Impact and The Ninth Gate, but today is not that day.

    outstanding_bond,

    On Mander, fighting the clickbait pop science menace is every citizen’s duty. Are you doing your part?

    blackbrook,

    I think they are. I checked the comments before clicking on the article and that comment prevented me from rewarding that clickbaiter.

    TauZero,

    The poster is just submitting the article as titled, and the scientists are just making cool observations not bothering anyone. The fault for clickbait lies solely with the journalists/editors. I wish instead of continuing the practice from that other site of “submission title must match article title”, we normalize the culture of writing our own plain language de-clickbait-ified titles, the way HackerNews does it.

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