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fsxylo, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

Throws year long project in the trash

MentalEdge, (edited ) w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community
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Ah. Yet another reason for game studios to turn away from commercial dev tools and turn to FOSS software like Blender and Godot.

And since game devs are, you know, developers, they can even contribute to these tools with heir dev time, improving them and accelerating the industry shift away from this commercial bullshit even more.

Cqrd,

Wasn’t there a massive amount of drama in the Godot community recently that nearly destroyed it?

MentalEdge, (edited )
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I’ve heard of no such thing.

But drama almost never kills FOSS software. It just causes it to fork. FOSS software can become like an olympic flame that just keeps getting passed from dev to dev. Once there are people actively using something, those same people are motivated to fix any issues they have with it, or add any features they are missing. That then drives improvement of the software, which in turn drives adoption, which drives more improvement…

There was huge drama around Emby going closed source, but FOSS Emby simply got forked, becoming Jellyfin.

There’s an example just within lemmy, the lemmur app apparently stopped development due to some drama, but it got forked and Liftoff picked up right where it left off.

Yes. There can be drama around FOSS projects, and there often is. Loosely organized groups of volunteers putting together serious software don’t work as efficiently as a paid team of devs led by a visionary with final say. But FOSS projects are capable of becoming self-perpetuating in a way proprietary software can never do. Once they reach a high enough level of adoption, they are very hard to kill.

And Godot is definitely up there.

snowfalldreamland, (edited )

The only “drama” I recall is that one guy, who ran an unofficial forum, went on a weird rant about how Godot is a scam because he thought development was too slow or something. He then shut down his unofficial forum. That’s a long shot from “being destroyed”.

But maybe I missed something?

(Edit: I had misspelled “forum” as “form”. Sorry if that confused anybody)

Cqrd,

Yep, that’s the one I was thinking about. Thanks for the clarification, I only vaguely remembered it

wahming, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

I guess Unity had a good run while it lasted. Time to see Godot splashscreens everywhere now

CaptDust, (edited )

Godot doesn’t charge a subscription fee to remove the splash screen :)

Sanctus, w How Assassin’s Creed Mirage Is A Revitalized Take On the Series’ Roots
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I’m surprised this IP is still going.

SpaceNoodle, w Steam turns 20 today: "We've had to try a lot of different things over the years"

Only 20? What was that platform I had to install in the late '90s?

BudgieMania, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

The fact that the same user reinstalling the game counts as 2 installs makes this doubly absurd. The decision is already baffling by itself but the idea that you could take a financial hit for an install that didn't net you any additional income is... Jesus.

Deconceptualist, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

How could they even enforce this? Couldn’t devs just include a wrapper or small firewall (or settings for Windows firewall) with their games to block Unity’s analytics?

velovix,

You could technically get around most software license agreements, but companies don’t do that en masse because they’d risk legal action against them.

gerbler, w How Assassin’s Creed Mirage Is A Revitalized Take On the Series’ Roots

If this is actually true then I’m sure I’ll hear all about it after it releases. No point trusting reviewers in this day and age when I can get a better sense of quality from day one discourse and review embargoes are the norm.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS, w Thank you for 20 Years of Steam!

Fuck Steam.

Kolanaki,
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I do. Every night. Steam is a tender, giving lover.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS, w How Assassin’s Creed Mirage Is A Revitalized Take On the Series’ Roots

The old games didn’t age too well. The formula of the new games is much better.

Gooey0210, w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

Which no one mentioned the classic

come to tye first town + hit a chicken + get in an infinite fight with Delphine + don’t talk to blades + never fight alduin = Skyrim

Thus was my first playthrough of Skyrim

CorrodedCranium,
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Isn’t Skyrim one of those games where you can mess around for a bit and eventually come back and proceed like nothing ever happened?

In Fallout 4 you can use the Nuka World DLC to push the Minutemen to whatever settlement you left Preston in or the Castle but I think there’s always the option for redemption because they are the fail safe faction. I figured Skyrim would have something similar.

fushuan, (edited )

Yeah you need to be imprisoned by the guard of whiterun and it’s all gucci with delphine

Trainguyrom,

I stole a book for a quest with a shitton of witnesses, ran away, got out of town because of the guards having patching issues, stopped at my home and dumped my mostly-stolen inventory and returned and turned myself into the guards paying 40 gold to redeem myself for stealing a priceless book. Skyrim is a masterpiece of realism I tell you!

Gooey0210,

In Skyrim there’s a ton of ways you can hardlock yourself I believe in fallout 4 should be some too, it’s more flexible though

CorrodedCranium,
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Can you provide an example? I think most of the time there are ways to fix mistakes; at least when it comes to the main quest line.

Zoidsberg, w How Assassin’s Creed Mirage Is A Revitalized Take On the Series’ Roots
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Just like how every new Call of Duty is a stunning return to form.

JasSmith, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

Are they trying to lose to Unreal?

vrojak,

At this point you've got to wonder if they're trying to lose to Gamebryo.

Kolanaki, (edited )
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GameBryo Execs: “Finally, we can deal with someone besides Todd Howard!”

MentalEdge,
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The real threat is Godot. It’s getting better and better. Why pay for a commercial game engine, when you can use one that comes with a literally no strings attached FOSS license? And you have full access to the source code, so you can fiddle with any line of code, if need be.

Sylver, w Starfield’s Giant Pile of 20,000 Potatoes, Explained by Game Developers - IGN

To be honest, those potatoes falling out of the door really did look impressive.

eldritch_lich, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

I looked through the announcement post and all I can say is that this is beyond absurd. Can they even legally apply these changes retroactively? All these relatively large indie games used Unity. They can’t exactly tear everything down and use another engine. They didn’t even accept such terms at the time, so how can they suddenly be expected to pay for every download they get?

And I was so excited to finally start learning Unity too… damn. I probably should have seen something like this coming way back when they announced their IPO. I was going to learn Unreal at some point as well but I guess I’ll just uninstall Unity and skip right to UE5.

There’s definitely going to be huge action taken from every studio that used Unity in their games. I have a hard time believing that they’ll get away with the retroactive part at least.

Donjuanme,

It isn’t going into effect until January 2024, and it isn’t retroactive. And I don’t think you need to worry too much about breaking 200k paid installs if you haven’t even learned the language yet, but I admire your drive if you do.

hedgehog,

It isn’t retroactive in the sense that it applies to installs before that date, but rather in the sense that it applies to games made with Unity before the announcement.

Veraxus, (edited )
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UE5 is great. Honestly, it would have been the better choice even before Unity decided to curb-stomp their entire community and customer base.

But then, what did we expect after Unity merged with a company known for malware. Predatory practices are their whole business model.

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