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GrayBackgroundMusic, (edited ) w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

Xmen on Sega genesis. At one point you have to literally reset the console. I was 10 and didn’t understand that’s what it was telling me to do. No game had ever done that, and prof x was breaking the 4th wall telling the player to do that. The game never broke the 4th wall otherwise. I didn’t understand until a decade later when I read it on some listicle.

Mandy, w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam

Ou for fucks sake people, games dont have to be perfect tens Its okay to be a 8/10 or 7/10

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

The funny thing is that “Publisher Bethesda was not permitted to pay additional royalties for the RPG because it scored 84 on Metacritic, according to Fallout New Vegas developer Chris Avellone. It appears that Obsidian’s publishing contract included a deal that meant the studio would be issued bonuses if the game hit a Metacritic of 85.” scores matter to Bethesda a lot even enough to ruin relationships and screw developers.

Mandy,

i know that one, and my comment was 100% not about that none, really just about people really

doctorcrimson,

Your English is bad.

Mandy,

Oh nooooooo, a random nobody on the internet doesnt like how I write in my second language, whatever shall I do? Is that good enough for you sire? May I get your highly esteemed stamp of approval now?

Honytawk,

Guess we should switch to a different language then, the first language of OP.

Or are you then going to cry as well since you only mastered English?

pancakes, w NBA 2K24 is already the second-worst reviewed game on Steam
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

Another lazy iteration of a yearly sports game with massive glaring issues? Colour me shocked, surprised, and astonished.

brihuang95,
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

honestly, when was the last “good” 2k game?

EDIT: just read the article. i forget that for the PC version they keep using the last gen version of the game lol, how difficult is it to use the current gen version?

ConditionOverload,
@ConditionOverload@lemmy.world avatar

2k12 was probably the best one. 11 years ago.

BleatingZombie,

I still have that one for 360! I was never very good, but it’s always a ton of fun to play

In my uneducated opinion, it feels like the gaming industry advanced past “quarter-eating” mechanics and have reverse engineered their way back there. The rubber-banding doesn’t feel fun/competitive anymore. Even playing solo just feels like it’s just trying to give you a taste of success in an attempt to get you to spend real money. Those of us who won’t ever “pay-to-win” just see an arbitrarily difficult or awkward game. For example, one of the later ones feels like it changes the player speed drastically based on who IT wants to do better now

520,

EDIT: just read the article. i forget that for the PC version they keep using the last gen version of the game lol, how difficult is it to use the current gen version?

Jesus, really? It's one thing to do that for the Switch, but for PC?

brihuang95,
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

yeah, that’s what my brother has told me and it’s why he hasn’t been buying the new ones

PM_ME_FEET_PICS, w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam

Steam has long since proven itself it be a useless metric to get any valuable statistics from.

It’s reviews have always been filled with memes, but especially now that reviews can be monetized.

Even poorly done negative reviews rake it a lot of Steam Points.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

How can reviews be monetized also the overall score is what really matters and is far more trustworthy than any games reviewer. Oh you mean points, I still fail to see how that matters when a game has 10k+ reviews and some tiny portion of them are memes. There is literally nothing better in terms of reviews.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Steam reviews are generally 90% memes or circle jerking.

Ghost Recon Breakpoint had mostly negative. The reviews all complain about either no achievements or the fact that the game was locked to their Ubisoft launcher first. Not real criticism of the game, especially considering most of what people complained about on release was fixed by the time it got put onto Steam.

It’s now 7 months later and it’s finally gone up to mixed with mostly positive reviews recently, despite no changes to the game.

Compare Breakpoint to Wildlands, it’s not as good previous game, all of the recent reviews are still circle jerking but posting positively.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/10a8765c-8a8b-428e-804e-6f6b5dcc9a13.webp

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2b5ada46-2be2-4194-b670-28f9d901558d.webp

As soon as Steam embraced the memes and shit reviews by adding a Funny button its reviews went to shit.

nanoUFO, (edited )
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

You do realize you are cherry picking right? The power of steam reviews it that it’s just users posting what they want and there is a score aggregate with cool tools that tell you if a game is being review bombed. There are plenty of very good reviews on steam and I use them all the time when going through my many thousands of wish listed indie games. Please don’t tell you me you think reviews done by “game journalists” getting early review copies and going to review events is better… on the whole. At least with steam reviews I know it’s people like me rating a game.

Theharpyeagle, (edited ) w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

I’m pretty sure I soft locked my New Vegas save a good few years ago, or at least locked myself out of the ending I wanted. I was going for the Yes-Man ending, but I wanted to let House upgrade the robots first. I let him do it and then killed him to get the platinum chip back, but turns out he didn’t have it on him. Without any way to give the chip to Yes-Man, I was SoL. I think you can still complete the game with a couple other factions, but I know for sure that I already pissed The Legion off so I don’t know how many options are left. Maybe I’ll dig up that save somehow and try again.

Also, In the original Thief games (Thief: The Dark Project, Thief: Gold, and Thief 2), there was a brief fadeout period between dying and getting kicked to the game over screen. This death state didn’t lock the controls, so you could still move around, interact with objects, and, critically, quicksave. If you happened to quicksave at the moment of your death, there was nothing you could do to get out of dying. There was only one quicksave slot and no autosaves, so if you weren’t manually saving every now and then, you had to start the entire game over. Learned to make occasional checkpoint saves the hard way.

The death mechanic did lead to at least one hilarious fan mission where you had to get through a door and complete the mission after falling to your death.

JokeDeity,

Yes Man is the failsafe ending, so you should always be able to do it I’m pretty sure. Killing Yes Man should work like killing Victor and he just jumps to a new body if I remember correctly.

federated_toast,

Link to the fan mission? I’ve been getting my annual itch to go back to The City

Anticorp, w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

I guess this is tangentially related. RDR2 had the full ending for Author and then kept going. I didn’t care what happened beyond that so I never finished the epilogue.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

That’s not a soft lock and your clearly never played the first game lol.

Mr_Buscemi, (edited )

Aw you missed out on some fun parts of the game. If you were just playing for Arthur’s story then I can understand why you’d stop there though. I’ll spoiler tag the stuff below but it’s why I think the epilogue is worth it if you wanted closure on something dealing with Arthur.

!Micah is a totally bitch. Epilogue dealt with John dealing with him and that shit was great !<

Won’t say more about it than that.

Anticorp,

I heard later that >!Micah finally gets his in the epilogue!< and meant to go back to finish it, but never did. I still may some day!

bomanicious, w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

Ys 8 has a soft lock toward the end where if you didn’t do enough side quests to build up enough affinity with your castaway group and party members you would get treated to a bad/neutral ending. Fortunately at that soft lock point there are enough ways to build up those points so you can progress past that point.

GenBlob, w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

The Ooze. My memory on this is fuzzy but on genetics lab part 2, there is a room you can enter that has a checkpoint. If you enter the room then you’re locked inside and if you collect the checkpoint and die, you will respawn back into the room and your only option is to lose all your lives or reset the game. I remember getting really pissed off finding this when I was a kid because I spent days trying to beat the game and I had a really good run up until that moment.

ColdWater, w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Play Walking Simulator or actually go outside instead

echoplex21, w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam

Aww man it’s actually a bummer to hear so many people are disliking the game. This has been the first game in a while where I’ve gotten hooked. I love the RPG elements in the game and the story has been brilliant. I’ve enjoyed games recently like Ragnarok and Control but this is the first one where I’m excited to just get back and sucked into the world. The last Bethesda game I played was actually Fallout 3 over a decade ago. It makes sense as Mass Effect is my favorite franchise and this feels like an evolution of that. My perfect game would probably be Starfield with ME: Andromeda combat.

eochaid,
@eochaid@lemmy.world avatar

I totally agree. I’m having a blast with this game. Imo, the best thing Beth has ever made (yeah, suck it Morrowind stans)

I think the problem is that this game has a bit of a slow burn. It took a bit for it to open up and make sense for me, more than most Beth games. I think over time the hate cycle will die down and people will get it on a steam sale and finally sink their teeth into it and after a couple of years it’s going to be as beloved as Skyrim is today.

conciselyverbose,

I think a big part of the problem is just hype cycles. People had expectations that were through the roof. They didn't tell you they had seamless transitions to space, and they didn't tell you they had BG3 caliber branching conversation trees (which we're a long way from being able to realistically do outside of a CRPG). But people seemingly expected that.

I watched the direct and we got basically what I expected (though the gunplay feels better than I expected. I definitely felt like VATS was needed in FO4.) It's Bethesda's game design philosophy of a massive world with a bunch of different play styles and a bunch of different quest lines (and smaller single quests) and locations that don't have to be done in any order. You can easily get sidetracked and go down rabbit holes. They iterated on most of their core features and adapted them to the new setting in a really well done way.

I also love the way the skill system brought back the "get better by doing" philosophy of Skyrim with challenges to unlock higher levels, and the story telling is sci fi in more than just skin.

couragethebravedog,

Out of curiosity, have you played BG3 ? It seems that most people who don’t like the game are coming to starfield right from BG3 and those who do have not played it. BG3 is now just the bar that AAA story telling is held to and anyone who has experienced it is having a hard time with the story of other games.

echoplex21,

Not gonna lie, I’m not a huge fan of turn based combat anymore. I feel like I’ve been burnt out after playing Pokémon for over 20 years.

kittenspronkles,

I’m not a fan of turn based games either, but BG3 is an excellent game and worth a shot.

Honytawk,

I’m playing Baldurs Gate 3 with friends and Starfield singleplayer. And I am enjoying both.

They aren’t the same game, even though they both rely on story and some aspects of the game are the same (like coming up with your own character and wanting to see how the story affects them)

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Aww man it’s actually a bummer to hear so many people are disliking the game.

… Mostly Positive.

AngryAnusHornets, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

September 13, 2003 for me it seems.

Just a few weeks ago it feels like. Probably spent more time playing video games between 2003 and 2006 than I have between 2006 and today. Makes me sad.

JokeDeity, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

I think I made mine in 2009 for some sweet sweet TF2.

JackbyDev,

The orange box was such a good deal

quams69, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

Damn, 16 here

easydnesto, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

11/22/2004 reporting in. Just currently 18 almost 19. I do not have a short steam ID though. Can’t remember which game was the first but pretty sure it was either half-life or HL2

hogart, w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?
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Little Big Adventure 2. Just before the last boss I managed to save myself on the last island without a way to leave it. But I needed to leave and get another Ball or w/e it was to unluck a door. It was my first real pc game experience ever. Dunno why I stuck with this hobby after that tbh :)

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