The first two for sure. The 3rd was fun but got a bit weird with Jean Reno featuring in it (it had some back and forth time jumps). If I tried Dawn of Dreams, I don’t much remember it.
It’s been so long I thought they had dropped the IP. The first game has some issues but it wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be. Hopefully they addressed the issues with the first game.
As far as I could tell, the “issues” people primarily had with it were that they wanted it to be bigger, but I also really appreciated its scope and how little time they wasted.
I had at least one quest which, when certain choices were made, would not complete. They never fixed it, but did release a cash-grab level-cap-increasing version later. Left a bad taste in my mouth. (There were other bugs and issues I faced that also never got fixed, but I don't recall what they were anymore). I mostly did enjoy the game, otherwise, and the size was fine in my opinion.
What issues? Who makes it out to be bad? As far as I remember everyone has always loved this game, it’s like saying “despite the issues with Fallout New Vegas, it’s not as bad as people make it out to be”, or Skyrim, or Red dead redemption 2, it’s the kind of game I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone complaining about it (except perhaps for the existencial dread caused by finishing such a good game and not knowing what to do next)
Its odd that you haven’t come across any complaints since almost everytime this game comes up in online threads that I visit, it’s filled with people criticizing it.
My main issue is a perspective thing - it felt like playing half assed fallout in space, in the sense that many questlines and stories felt very “been there, done that”. Its probably great if you haven’t played fallout 3 or new Vegas, but it just didn’t do much that was new beyond a coat of paint so I just got bored with it.
They’ve been working on it since they finished the next gen update for 3. That’s about two years now.
They’ve also said they learned their lesson with CP2077, so they aren’t going to give release dates or spend massive amounts on marketing this time around.
They’ve been working on it full time for two years. That’s two years they’ve been working full time on it. The full time development has been in progress for two years. For two years, the developers have been working full time on the game.
Did I mention it’s been in development for two years?
So then don’t buy it at launch and wait until it goes on sale. CP2077 ended up in a excellent state. Then you have the bonus of supporting only their fixed products while also not paying full price.
Even though it might not be that important, I just wanted to say that I was wrong and that the first “Long Dark” is not finished. A DLC came out on the 2nd of December, but it’s not the last Episode of the Wintermute campaign. Just found out after starting the game again to finish it.
We aren’t saying too much more about BLACKFROST at this point, as we are focused on completing our obligations around THE LONG DARK 1.
Appreciate the clarification. I am not getting time to play for a few weeks yet but was trying to get something for my brother as he was deeply into the game a few years back but didn’t want to come back till it “was done”.
I haven’t played Outer Wilds yet, but I loved The Outer Worlds, so I’m all on board for this. I have my doubts that Microsoft will want Obsidian to launch Avowed and Outer Worlds 2 in the same year though.
I’ve been deterred for so long because Majora’s Mask was perhaps the most violent reaction I had to playing a video game, and Outer Wilds does the Majora’s Mask thing.
The one mechanic is similar, yes. But the gameplay and exploration are drastically different.
I can’t praise the game enough… it’s just so good.
For example. You’re in a dungeon and then it happens and you go back.
In some ways something happens when you’re pulling on some thread. There’s no dungeons, no goal (explicitly). You are exploring and as you learn more you realize there’s areas to check out because they’ll answer some question you have about what happened or why something is the way it is.
In this case perhaps the mechanic occurs and you find yourself briefly annoyed. But then you go back to the spot, this time things are in a different place and state and you realize something happens that allows you to go further which leads to another thread/mystery.
And then you’re off. As time goes on you learn to accept and then even invite it. More and more you unravel deeper mysteries, learning what and why and then seeing earlier conclusions in a new light.
Why it’s happening, how it’s happening, what can be done and can’t, etc. it’s really a one of a kind experience.
I went and edited more into the answer. Trying to capture the feeling about it so that they aren’t afraid of being annoyed. Hopefully I handled it gingerly enough.
I love the idea of the game, and started playing it. But realistically it needs you to commit to some continuous time otherwise you forget what you’ve learned, and I haven’t had the time yet. I played it for a few days, explored lots of places but didn’t learned anything, possibly I was looking on the wrong planets and trying to figure out how to do it right on that planet got frustrated because I didn’t have something that was needed, or something… But I do love the idea of the game, and I want to go in blind. But some of those puzzles can be really frustrating when you only have a few minutes per day and forgot all about them by the next time you try to solve them.
Just keep pecking at it! Unravel each thread until you’re stuck then grab a hint from somewhere and keep going, I had to come back to Outer Wilds after starting it once initially and giving up, and I’m glad I finished it. Especially the DLC.
Use your ship log, it’ll remind you of all the clues you’ve found so far and how they connect together. But I agree it’s better to play continuously without large time gaps to keep everything you’ve learned fresh.
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