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joel_feila, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit
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Remember they amended the patent after palworld came out

PumpkinSkink, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

That’s lame af. Flying on my dragon dude between my bases was badass.

dodos,

You can still fly, it’s just gliding that got hit by the gaming mafia

DudeImMacGyver, do gaming w Console prices could rise by 69% in the US due to Trump tariffs, tech trade association warns [VGC]
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Nice.

HurlingDurling,

Not this time friend… not this time

DudeImMacGyver,
@DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth avatar

Oh.

Ulrich, do gaming w Console prices could rise by 69% in the US due to Trump tariffs, tech trade association warns [VGC]
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They could. Or Trump could fold tomorrow. No one knows. I don’t even think Trump knows.

theangriestbird,
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i think the article specifies that this is a new forecast based upon the Trump admin solidifying the final shape of the tariffs. So it seems unlikely at this phase that they will fold the current numbers, but we all know how smooth and predictable the Trump admin is.

Ulrich,
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There’s no “solidifying” anything with this guy. His reign is based on his whims and emotions.

Midnitte,

And everyone knows uncertainty is wonderful for the market and economy.

Furbag, (edited ) do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

Palworld did more for the monster-collecting genre in one early access title than Pokémon has in the last decade of AAA titles.

Why does Nintendo deserve these patents when they aren’t going to produce anything meaningful with them and simply weaponize them to squash any real threatening competition?

Pokémon is the highest grossing franchise in the world, and 2nd place isn’t even close. I think they can give a little ground to an indie developer who makes games that people are actually interested in playing. The patent bullshit is ridiculous.

SupraMario,

Because that’s how Nintendo works. They are the Disney of gaming.

Ledericas,

hardly call pokemon an AAA title. maybe a solid A+ even before thier enshittification during the SWSH era.

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

I don’t care about Palworld, but I do hate Nintendo. Enemy of my enemy and all that.

chunes,

I don’t care about it either personally, but my wife really enjoys playing the game with friends, and I’m pissed on her behalf. Luckily, she’s told me the devs are being really good about making the changes feel good (not like a punishment).

ILikeBoobies, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

Not how patents work but whatever, Nintendo has more money so they’re in the right

lvxferre, do gaming w Console prices could rise by 69% in the US due to Trump tariffs, tech trade association warns [VGC]
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

69%? N… … …nevermind. 🫢

Serious now, I wouldn’t be surprised if USA’s video game industry was suddenly gone - because for countries not directly caught in the tariffs war, businesses outside USA (like Sony and Nintendo) will get another competitive advantage.

sirico, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit
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Nintendo are rightly losing their free pass with gamers.

thatKamGuy,

That is very true, but the Venn Diagram overlap between Gamers^TM^ and ‘Nintendo gamers’ is a rapidly shrinking area.

Jarix,

Heard that before, this happens every decade or so

tiredofsametab,

I've seen no evidence of this. People are clamoring for the switch 2 and talking about all they want to buy. Fuck Nintendo, but people keep giving them money so they're going to keep doing anti-consumer shit with no sign of any government stopping them. The government isn't going to attack one of the most beloved companies in Japan whose mascot they used at their olympics. A lot of Japanese are event against things like free, labour-of-love randomizers made for old games. People need to stop buying their shit globally if they want anything to happen.

Ledericas,

that was the same issues with swsh all the way to arceus, people were repeatadly warned how half-assed the games were, and then complain later on the subs. they still bought it.

drmoose,

Where is that? Cause Switch 2 pre orders are sold out.

demizerone,

That has happened my whole life, I’m 44. Nintendo supposedly does low first batch numbers so the can get in the news that they sold out. Then scalpers sell the machines for $1500.

drmoose,

Sure but I don’t see any evidence of Nintendo’s decline. The truth is that gamers are incredibly spineless and will continue to bootlick corporate boot unless they put “something woke in the game” at which point they’ll leave a review somewhere and still clock in 300 hours if entertained enough.

DogOnKeyboard, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

So can we please fork v0.5.4?

theangriestbird, do gaming w Console prices could rise by 69% in the US due to Trump tariffs, tech trade association warns [VGC]
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don’t you DARE say “nice” bee hmph emoji

30p87,
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nice

theangriestbird,
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ლ(╹ ╹ლ)

SpikesOtherDog,

I came here for this, but left this instead.

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

this is not what i expected. lol

Faydaikin,
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Im not a Console player, but I’m pretty sure whatever hardware you’re using should be able to outlast the Cheeto-man’s final term.

Ulrich,
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Assuming he has one before he died.

endeavor,

Nice

tkohldesac, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit
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I wonder how much of this game they can force them to change. I know Steam has a 2 hour limit for returns but at what point does this game become “not the game I bought”?

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, the game is in early access so if you bought it and are now complaining it changed… It’s a you problem, not something that should be refundable.

tkohldesac,
@tkohldesac@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, not complaining, idly wondering. I made my bed, I’ll sleep in it, I’m just wondering how far a game can go to change a game and still claim it’s the same game.

EntirelyUnlovable,
@EntirelyUnlovable@lemmy.world avatar

Theseus’ Game

ayyy,

There’s and endless list of games people have complained about changing during early access. It’s a stupid idea. Don’t preorder games.

tkohldesac,
@tkohldesac@lemmy.world avatar

Yuuup, Palworld was a rare early access buy for me. Burned too many times but a sale burnt a hole in my pocket after holding off for years and I got curious, I knew what I was getting into haha

Linktank,

If anyone owes you money, it’s Nintendo. We should class action their asses.

ILikeBoobies,

point does this game become “not the game I bought”?

Anytime you can’t access the version of a game you spent money on

lambalicious,

Pretty much anything so long as Palworld doesn’t have 1.- a backbone and 2.- a dictionary at hand. Because it is as simple as finding a picture of any of a long list of animals that can glide, state the words “previous art” and they should be free from this ridiculous demand.

Mechanics that already exist in nature should not be copyrightable. Can you imagine if the first videogame company ever patented “character walking”?

Ledericas,

they were pretty much in hotwater for copying pokemons likeness, they probably dint want to have more expensive legal and drawn out fight.

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Iapar, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

Make it so that you can give the glider pal skins.

mhague, do games w Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

I wonder what their plan was – step on the toes of the biggest franchise while operating in one of the many countries with broken copyright laws and then hope for the best while raking in early access money based on an idea that legally can’t exist? Was it being naive and hoping they could just make a fun and successful game and Pokemon would be a merciful god?

shneancy,

Nintendo shouldn’t be trying to own mechanics. if someone took their core idea and made it so good people who are Pokemon fans are buying it en masse then maybe they should take a hint and make a game that people want. but instead they’re out there suing devs for “stealing” their idea of holding onto the feet of creatures with wings to glide? they’re clearly unable to take down the game and decided to blindly keep stabbing away at random things trying to bankrupt them with trivial lawsuits. it’s pathetic

mhague,

Does your comment make sense as a response to my comment?

I’m confused why the devs stuck their head in the jaws of a sue happy monster. I ask, “But what was the point? What did they plan to happen?”

And you tell me Nintendo shouldn’t own mechanics? Like… I know that. I am so used to people misunderstanding me, that I specifically go back and add a huge banner saying “I agree with you.” I can call Nintendo assholes, call copyright broken, paint the devs as good but naive, and I still get “listen here, Nintendo is bad. Copyright is broken.”

ysjet,

You’re getting down votes from astroturfers, idiots, and kids who can’t handle attacks on their precious favoritist little game, but you’re right, palworld has zero leg to stand on here and they’re lucky their company even still exists with the sheer scale of blatant theft going on. But DAE Nintendo bad hurr hurr?

stephen01king,

Can you list out this sheer scale of theft that Nintendo is suing Pocketpair for.

ysjet,
stephen01king,

Ah, so you can’t? The scale of the theft is so big that you can’t even list them out, is it?

ysjet,

Just keep moving those goalposts, kiddo.

stephen01king,

Please explain what goalpost did I move?

atrielienz, (edited )

So, Nintendo can file patents after years of not filing them just to fuck with an Indie company after that company put out a product with game mechanics that “infringe said patents”, but not to go after other large gaming companies like Microsoft that also infringe those same patents. Interesting take.

mhague,

What the hell is wrong with you? Did I say Nintendo ought to be allowed to drive drunk? Or did I express confusion at why someone stepped in front of the speeding drunk? I’m fucking tired of “oh you defended him? What do you love him?” bullshit.

Sorry I didn’t just shake my magic 8 ball and generate a pithy comment like you (probably) did. Here, I’ll shake my ball and write what comes up.

Nintendo is fucking scum. I want a competitor to Pokemon. Copyright laws are broken. Lawyers! LAWYERS!!

atrielienz, (edited )

Either you haven’t read into what Nintendo is doing and kept up with what’s been going on in the court case, (and perhaps meant to put a /s at the end of your first comment), or you’re blaming Palworld for something Nintendo did because they are big mad that anyone would dare make a game even remotely similar to theirs. I don’t care if you’re defending Nintendo or not.

NINTENDO LITERALLY APPLIED FOR PATENTS FOR GAME MECHANICS used in Palworld after the game was already released to the public. They invented a reason to sue. They directly manufactured it. Your inability to communicate your thoughts on the matter is not my problem. Maybe stop raving for a minute and compose a reply that actually makes sense.

rdri,

Getting popular to that point was not in their plans. You can’t judge their success.

And yes it can legally exist. See other creature collector games (that are just not that popular yet).

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