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Tattorack, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Correction:

It’s not the account that’s banned. It’s the device that’s banned. You can factory reset the Switch 2, completely wiping all data, and it will remain banned. This means that none of the games you’ve purchased legally will function, as cartridges no longer contain games and Nintendo’s services are required to play them.

It essentially becomes a useless flat tile.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Is it still usable as in it boots?
Because then it’s a prime piracy machine because it will never get patched again.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

From what I’ve seen from the videos of people with banned Switch 2s:

Yes, it still boots.

There are active discussions already going on on GBATemp.net about Switch 2 bans and whatnot. I’d keep an eye on that forum to see how things develop.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

You could just put it in airplane mode to get the same effect.

Appoxo,
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How you play online until then?

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

You don’t, unless there are unofficial servers to connect to. This hypothetical console is banned anyway, so you’re being forced to pirate to actually use it.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

How do you play any new game? You need an internet connection to download games as the majority wont be true physical games anymore (the cartridge is a “key-card”).

Your console is banned from connecting to Nintendo’s services (apparently not for the console updating service, as users from gbatemp.net have figured out), so you won’t be able to play the majority of the Switch 2’s library, even when purchasing a game legally.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

If it’s a “prime piracy machine,” you play new games by downloading them off the internet and transferring them to the console.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but that’s not the same as merely putting the console into airplane mode. And it’ll be 2 to 3 years before CFWs, homebrew, and piracy will be viable on the Switch 2 (based on the time it required to do the same on the Switch 1, and 3DS).

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Right, but the OP said being unable to go online to update the firmware made it a prime piracy machine. It follows that it has to be jailbroken to qualify as such.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

But it can update the firmware.

According to those on GBATemp.net, the update server and the eshop server are both different. Your console being banned means it’s banned from all the shop services, but console updates still happen.

I think console updates are semi-forced, so you’ll still have to keep the Switch 2 offline and/or keep denying update prompts like usual, even if it’s banned.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

In that case, airplane mode is a better option.

zipzoopaboop,

It’s not useless. You can still sell it to people without telling them about the ban then ghost them

jsomae,

but you could sell it to a nonsuspecting sucker and buy a new one.

Also, most cartridges contain games as I understand it; only some are keys.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Which Games Are Game-Key Cards?

Looking at the listings on Target and GameStop, I’ve noticed that many publishers decided to use the game-key card format. This is allegedly because Nintendo is only offering third-party developers the 64GB cartridge or the game-key card—there is no smaller, standard physical cart. This would explain why nearly every major (and minor) AAA release is on a game-key card, since publishers don’t want to pay extra for the more expensive storage space.

Bravely Default Flying Fairy HD, Hitman: World of Assassination, Hogwarts Legacy, Madden NFL 26, Raidou Remastered, Sonic X Shadow Generations, Split Fiction, Star Wars Outlaws, Street Fighter 6 Year 1-2 Fighters Edition, and Yakuza 0 Director’s Cut will all require an internet connection to download before playing. Civilization VII will actually just be a code in a box. I can image there will be more (of both) in the future; the Switch 2 only just launched.”

pcmag.com/…/nintendo-switch-2-game-cards-vs-game-…

LettyWhiterock,
@LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re already using a flash cart then does that really even matter though?

Railcar8095,

That’s only for switch 1 games.

Korhaka,

As a British citizen I am starting to get ideas. The following is about distance selling which includes online sales.

You must offer a refund to customers if they’ve told you within 14 days of receiving their goods that they want to cancel. They have another 14 days to return the goods once they’ve told you.

Sixtyforce, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works avatar

Going online with flash carts on a new console is certainly a choice. The first Switch already hardware banned for doing that, so this isn’t new.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

I know people that got their Nintendo DS banned for using flash carts. This ain't new.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

You sure about that? DS online was so basic that they actually didn't have the capability to do bans back then.

Rai,

Yah, definitely not DS or DS lite. Playing online with pirated games on a hacked 3DS MAYBE, but certainly not flash carts.

That said, I hacked my N3DSXL AGES ago so I could back up my Monster Hunter saves in case something ever happened before XX was released and I could transfer my data, played online a shit ton (with my R4DS in the cart slot) and was never banned.

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but it was only a few games when they were played/used on flashcarts before the game released :p
Happened with phantasy star zero iirc
It was also not nintendo’s choice but the game devs. So it was game bound, not console bound

Wispy2891, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

Idea:

  1. Get a switch 2 from Amazon
  2. Get it banned from Nintendo
  3. Return it to Amazon
  4. Let Nintendo and Amazon deal with the pissed customer that gets it later
whyalone,

Can you return it if is dead? Or displaying on screen something like, software was modified, warranty void,?

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

It gives error only when you try to login, the inspector would need to create an account and login. Possible but they barely do “it turns on, it works, can be resold”, it takes too much time, Amazon many times just disposes perfectly fine stuff just because they don’t want to pay $5 for someone to check it

A_Random_Idiot, (edited )

I seriously doubt Amazon has improved its systems since that Motorcycle guy bought a 6 thousand dollar camera and got a box of rocks…twice.

edit

Correctino, 6 thousand dollar camera

Korhaka,

For such a short timeframe you can return it because you just don’t want it anymore

Anomalocaris,

wait, they brick the switch itself?? I thought they banned the account or something

Zanathos,

I had this pop up on my feed this morning. They are doing the same thing they did on hacked Switch 1 consoles and basically revoking their certificate, so it can’t connect to Nintendo servers any longer. youtu.be/ExgYTA18_vo

mmhmm, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@mmhmm@lemmy.ml avatar

The Nintendo online play is a joke. Not connecting to the web is a boon imo

Rai,

If only it was just that… this bricks your console. You can’t play games on it, or update it.

It would work for piracy eventually probably, but without firmware updates you’re stuck with older games (unless there are new games released with firmware updates included and pirating those games works)

Numenor, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

the MIG Flash (formerly MIG-Switch) is a specialized, reprogrammable cartridge that’s designed to mimic a real Nintendo Switch cartridge, but allows you to store your own game ROMs or backups on its microSD card. This essentially enables you to hold multiple game copies on a single cartridge, letting you conveniently switch between them with the help of a button.

A_Random_Idiot,

Which is ideal for someone who is constantly on the go/traveling/etc and don’t want to risk losing all their carts. Just dump’m, put them on one flash cart, and have all your games in one thing you never have to take out of your console.

You know, like the kinda of people the switch is geared towards

grrgyle, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

Nintendo gonna Nintend

Nasan,

Road to hell is paved with good Nintentions

supersquirrel, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

looks up from steam deck

wait what?

hanrahan,
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

Exactly why I’m going Steam Deck

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

Exactly my thoughts, but I am waiting for the Steam Deck 2… Or something more future proof (that would be my 1st gaming handheld stronger than my overclocked hacked Nintendo Switch v1).

LordKitsuna,

Probably still a ways off. They said they didn’t want to do a 2 until there was a substantial upgrade available… And while the latest amd apu IS better, its not the leap and bound they say they are looking for so likely not yet in any type of production

hanrahan,
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

This is the way

Croquette,

PC gaming just need a solid Mario Kart alternative and every other genre are covered.

Robust_Mirror,

Keep an eye on Sonic Racing: Crossworlds.

UnhingedFridge,
@UnhingedFridge@lemmy.world avatar

Garfield Kart 2 coming soon

Korhaka,

But we already have SuperTuxKart

Zahille7,

PC has literally every other kart racer in existence though.

Croquette,

Yeah but for whatever reason, the Mario Kart format is exclusively on Nintendo.

On the PS3, ModNation Racer was so much fun, so I just hope that one day we get something like that on PC

Zahille7,

I remember playing that on my PSP

xan1242,

Except for CTR Nitro Fueled. I’m still annoyed that there’s no PC port of it.

bizzle,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Super Tux Kart is pretty decent tbh

Croquette,

I’ll have to revisit it. It changed a lot since I last played.

oplkill,

i wish for hugo biccazoo 2

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Every Mario Kart except World is playable on PC…but of course the online is far more limited since the pool of players is much, much smaller.

jsomae,

I’ve been enjoying Dr Robotnik’s Ring Racers. However, it’s rather technical compared to mario kart, so I would recommend against using the cheat-code to skip the tutorial.

Angry_Autist,

What a terribly useless top comment, glad that blocks are free

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’re blocking for that? Your block list must be huge!

supersquirrel,

Jokes on them, I charge for my blocks!

Angry_Autist,

it certainly is, welcome to it

Confused_Emus,

Username checks out.

Strider,

Looks up from one of my hacked switches which are not banned

Heh, someone (the banned person) wasn’t paying attention.

Korhaka,

Pretty sure Valve encourage people to do fun things with their steam deck. You want to run some custom OS on it? Go ahead!

Noodle07, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

The only game series I still play from Nintendo are all on steam now I feel so smug with my steam deck :3

Proprietary_Blend, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

Is that against the terms and conditions?

Just asking!

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Yes, they've always banned users for going online with pirated games, and the T&C has always warned you that they would. Sony and Microsoft do the same thing too.

RightHandOfIkaros,

The difference is that Xbox and PlayStation still allow you to access your digital games or completely reset the console and delete your accounts off the console.

Its different with Switch 2, because now you cannot acces the digital games you legally bought. You cannot even delete your account off of the console. If you bought physical cpoies of games that don’t have the data on the cart, you can’t play those either on Nintendo Switch 2.

solsangraal, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

ah, the old “let’s completely shit on the millions of people who give us money, in order to do nothing to the handful of people who torrent our shit” strategy

TheOctonaut,

The fuck are you talking about? Do you think millions of people are going online with flashcarts that aren’t pirates?

Angry_Autist,

Oh my your reading comprehension skills are terrible and 11 other people seem to agree with you

Not a good sign for lemmy’s future

RightHandOfIkaros,

You’re right. Definitely not even 1 million people are trying that. Good catch.

thatradomguy, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

They were explicitly told this would happen and still tried… ffs

roserose56, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@roserose56@lemmy.ca avatar

After 12 days, people still buy the Nintendo Switch 2, when a month earlier the price was to high for them.

Harrk, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

Yeah, if you pirate and whatever… fair enough. Don’t expect Nintendo to want to deal with you. But at least you know that is the risk you’re taking.

The other group of people this will impact are those who dump (legally) their own games so that they don’t have to swap out carts all the time. It’s also going to suck for those who pick up a second hand console to find that their online access is restricted. I don’t see an issue with Nintendo blacklisting a device from their services should it go against their ToS, but this just seems way too easy of a trap to walk into.

Angry_Autist,

Imagining pirating a PC game and then never being allowed on the internet again…

bjoern_tantau, do games w Steam beta gets native Apple Silicon support — the only public Arm version of Steam
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Proton for Arm imminent?

emogu,

Don’t you dare give me hope

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I mean, it is supposedly already a thing on Android. And there are rumors that Valve have been trying it out for Deckard. So this could very much come this year or so.

einlander,

Windows on arm

dinckelman,

Probably not. Steam for macOS still has no SteamPlay support, so your best bet is installing the regular Steam through a separate Heroic prefix. Works great, but it does still require Rosetta.

That said, Box64 and FEX are both making a lot of progress, so it’d be awesome to see these in action officially soon

sevon,
@sevon@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Not very likely. Translating cpu architectures is completely different from from what wine/proton does. A compatibility layer for arm would be even more difficult and expensive, and have a performance penalty. They might plan that for further into future though, if arm pcs take off. A Mac implementation would probably need a lot of apple-specific work, and there aren’t many mac gamers out there.

bjoern_tantau,
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There already are some projects that make it work. I haven’t looked at the specifics yet but as far as I understand it everything that can be handled as a library call as native ARM code does just that and only pure x86 calls are emulated. And since nowadays so much stuff is abstracted away and the heavy lifting is done by Vulkan the performance tends to be very good.

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

Asahi linux already ships a VM to run steam on macbooks. And the VM is not even doing the heavy lifting. They do cpu instruction translation on the go, the VM is there just to solve some memory allocation quirks.

asahilinux.org/2024/…/aaa-gaming-on-asahi-linux/

abcdqfr, do astronomy w 1.5TB of James Webb Space Telescope data dumped on the internet — new searchable database is the largest window into our universe to date

Tangent, how would this telescope do turned around and pointed at our deepest oceans? There’s infinitely more alien life to actually find and study, and it’s still unstudied for good reasons I suppose I’m fishing for.

Dasus,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

Wait… what?

We’ve got tons of oceanographic satellites. James Webb is extremely good at picking up light. The ocean is extremely dark.

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