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Lettuceeatlettuce, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

This will become more and more true in more and more cases as time goes on.

Linux is built on a far more efficient kernel, and the culture of Linux development is very much the same.

Meanwhile Microsoft will continue to enshitify its projects, shove more AI garbage onto its users, and prioritize profits over everything else.

Linux has been the standard OS for decades in the low power computing space, Microsoft can’t compete.

Dnb,

Nope this is purely from a broken test. Watch the video and you’ll see that its not testing with the same power limits.

17w tests are actually 16w vs 20w+ and 35w test is 25w vs 35w

This leads to drastically higher clock speeds on both cpu and gpu as seen in the video and thus higher fps (and power draw, so lower battery life)

dan1101, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times
@dan1101@lemmy.world avatar

That’s awesome. I’m almost ready to switch to Linux, but I hop around to many different games and not all run on Linux.

symbioticremnant,

Don’t look back. Those games are dead to you now

BombOmOm,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Unironically, yes. Keep the kernel-level anti-cheat shit off my computer.

FalschgeldFurkan,

^this

It’s mostly kernel level AC and super ancient stuff that doesn’t run. I play the former on console (if any), and the latter can be emulated

BombOmOm,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

GOG is doing wonders for the later as well. Just recently enjoyed a run of Breath of Fire IV. :)

dreadbeef,

i stopped dual booting many many years ago with destiny 2. I killed it. Never looked back thank goodness and never got tempted again

Know_not_Scotty_does,

The only one I have run into that doesn’t work is pubg. What are you trying to run?

iAmTheTot,

This was a genuine concern to me before my switch. I game a lot and this was a main thing keeping me back.

I eventually decided, well I’ll at least dual boot and can just switch to Windows if I want to play a game there.

But that kinda turned out to be a pain in the ass. Things like Bluetooth devices would need to be switched each time (I know there are ways around this, don’t @ me), and more.

So… I just stopped using Windows to avoid that annoyance. And it turns out I don’t miss the games I could only play on Windows that much, because I haven’t booted into Windows in months. I’m fact I’m not really sure why I still have the partition.

Tl:dr just do it.

warmaster,

You shouldn’t be playing any game that requires kernel level access to your PC.

Do you trust every employee at EA, Riot, Activision with your credit card details, social security number, bank accounts, home address, etc.?

Because that’s what kernel level access grants them, and more.

On top of that, a hacker could potentially exploit it to gain access too.

axx,

It’s not a theoretical situation :)

bleepingcomputer.com/…/hackers-abuse-genshin-impa…

axx, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Pretty hilarious if after years of being the scourge of Linux and FOSS advocates, complaining how they could never leave Windows because they need it to play, gamers become our greatest allies, switching in droves to get more out of their hardware and games.

Really, this isn’t entirely new, I remember some games were known to run better on Wine than Windows years ago already (Soldier of Fortune comes to mind).

iAmTheTot, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Ah, but then how will I use Microsoft Teams?

BombOmOm,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Good news, you can download and run Microsoft Teams in Linux. I have no clue why you would want to do this, but you can!

artyom,

Unfortunately it’s the primary communication method for my work. I just use it in the browser.

Podo_Danderfluff,

Portal for Microsoft Teams works surprisingly well. Its basically a web wrapper, but its very convenient.

artyom,

How is it convenient? Why would I use that instead of just my browser or a PWA?

jjjalljs,

I’ve recently started to have to use Teams at work and wow it’s awful. In subtle and overt ways.

rebelsimile,

my favorite least favorite thing about teams is anything that happens when you right click anywhere on anything.

peetabix,

What happens?

Naz,

I know someone who was working on the Teams codebase. Even they don’t like using Teams (it wouldn’t open properly on Ubuntu for some reason).

Creat,

Teams actually works just fine. I’m my case installed from the AUR using the electron already present anyways. Zero issues. More specifically zero additional issues compared to Windows.

Qkall,
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve taken calls on my pinephone and postmarketos phones (pixel 3a / oneplus 6). Twas fine… actually i have used it to make a clear calls in a pinch.

(pls donate to pmos)

anon5621, (edited )
@anon5621@lemmy.ml avatar

Better let live it at least at flatpak container to give it less permission cause 0 trust to this app

g0nz0li0,

Oop, went thread!

lichtmetzger,

There’s an unofficial client. It works really well. I mean, as well as this piece of shit software generally works.

github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

And more importantly, where’s the IA?

Kirk, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

I’ve been trying out Bazzite with an Nvidia GPU and performance is slightly better but the overall experience is significantly improved over windows.

falinter,
@falinter@midwest.social avatar

I’ve been thinking of switching my framework 13 laptop over to bazzite as a toe dip into the Linux world (other than steam deck) if it’s not too bad I might try dual booting my big desktop gaming PC

Kirk,

Honestly, I like Bazzite because it’s very controller and gaming friendly and you won’t be disappointed with it. That said, for a daily driver workstation computer you might want to try Fedora Kinoite which is very similar but focused towards desktop use.

Also it doesn’t hurt to try both as I said they’re very similar! Would love to hear a follow up on your experience.

Goodeye8,

One caveat. If you have racing wheels or HOTAS you should check if Bazzite supports them. I ran into that issue with my Thrustmaster T300 where the right kernel module isn’t packaged with Bazzite and adding the module to Bazzite… Well, let’s just say it’s easier to reinstall a different OS than it is to add a custom kernel module to Bazzite.

Kirk,
Goodeye8,

I know. I found that issue when I was looking into how to get my T300 to work and it’s because of that issue that I’m raising the awareness because that issue has been open for over a year and the last maintainer activity there was months ago.

I get that they’re doing it out of their free time and they probably have more important things to do so I’m not faulting them for not being faster with it, but from the end user perspective you’re just going to fiddle your thumbs until something gets done because doing it yourself has the immutable OS getting in the way and it also defeats the purpose of having an immutable OS.

Meanwhile getting the wheel to work on Nobara went, relatively speaking, so smoothly I don’t even remember what I did to get it working.

chunkystyles,

Instead of Kinoite, I’d suggest either Bluefin or Aurora. They’re made by the same group as Bazzite.

zergtoshi,

The Nvidia GPU in my laptop was the reason to install Bazzite; haven’t looked back since.

sheogorath,

Is the performance slightly better compared to windows or earlier versions of Bazzite?

Kirk,

Compared to Windows. To be clear I’m just basing that on vibes, and I haven’t done any 1:1 testing, but it’s absolutely not any worse than Windows with everything I’ve tried. But also, even if it was slightly worse, the benefit of almost never needing a mouse/keyboard still would make it worth it.

mayorchid, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Year of Linux on the…handtop?

DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Yet another Linux W.

prole, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Everyone who’s ever used a Steam Deck or gamed on Linux in general are like “yeah no shit”

Broadfern,
@Broadfern@lemmy.world avatar

All positive publicity is good, the more people outside our little niche bubble are exposed to it the better.

Killing Windows influence in gaming wherever possible is an improvement.

zergtoshi,

Me and my Steam Deck approve.

realitista, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

That’ll be hilarious when everyone buys the flagship Xbox branded handheld only to install a Steam variant on it.

thingsiplay, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Slap the name Xbox on it, and call it a day. The Microsoft strategy “everything is a Xbox”.

g0nz0li0,

Feels like this is so when they announce that there won’t be a successor to the Xbox Series X/S they can say “Xbox is t going away, it’s evolving, everything is an Xbox now etc”

ROG Xbox Ally is a good example of how superficial this promise it.

artyom,

Honestly everyone keeps saying it’s not an XBOX but I think they’re just missing that the XBOX as they know it is dead and it has just transitioned to “Microsoft gaming”.

MrSoup, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times

Year of the Linux… xbox?

jinwk00,

LinuXbox?

vikingtons, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

I think maybe take a look at the performance and power seen during the video, things don’t seem to line up correctly.

That said, Linux is generally slightly more performant in handheld devices and I think that will continue to hold true despite Microsoft’s recent opts.

Powderhorn, do gaming w ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than the Windows it ships with — new test shows up to 32% higher FPS, with more stable framerates and quicker sleep resume times
@Powderhorn@beehaw.org avatar

I love the smell of irony in the early afternoon.

missingno, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Despite the fearmongering going around about bricks, this is only online bans. Same thing they've always done, same thing Sony and Microsoft do too if you get caught there.

Frankly, if you try to go online with pirated games, you're an idiot.

floofloof,

People are saying it happened to them with non-pirated games they put on the cartridge for convenience.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you're using a flashcart online at all, you're an idiot.

SkunkWorkz,

Also it’s impossible to make legal backups with the Mig flash. Yes backups for personal use are legal, but under the DMCA bypassing the DRM is not legal. And the Mig flash is seen as a DRM circumvention device. And before y’all come at me no i don’t agree with this but Nintendo probably has the law on their side with this. Since players using the Mig are violating the EULA.

Angry_Autist,

Good little bootlicker

stoly,

lol first response is a personal insult because someone takes it personally when someone else speaks truth that is disagreement with how they want things to be.

It’s like this:

You: “Apples are better for you than oranges”

An orange lover: “How dare you insult me”

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

No, it’s way worse than merely an account ban.

missingno, (edited )
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

It's not even an account ban, it's just the console. And that is what Sony and Microsoft do too.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

Only online ban? Nowadays most physical games are glorified DRM dongles that require a full download from online servers.

Banned from online means when you buy the $80 games all they can do is showing a cute icon on the launcher

And even if the full game is present on the cart, only a handful is ready at launch and not just a buggy alpha without the day one update

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you're already doing piracy with a flashcart, do you even care about that? You'll get your games elsewhere.

Wispy2891, (edited )
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

The problem is that updates are not automatically inserted in the flashcart. All the flashcart does is clone the original one as it was put on sale. Updates are always downloaded by the console and are not stored on the cart.

Let’s make a real world example: you go in a store and buy the cart for “disney dreamlight valley” for $40. You actually don’t know, but inside the cart there’s only a 34,6 MB file that only contains a splashscreen and a popup that says “connect to internet to download the update”. It then connects to Nintendo servers to download the 4.61 GB “update” that is the actual game. If you are blocked from Nintendo servers how can you get the update? Your console itself isn’t hacked, so you can’t just download it from random online sources with a different signature. You can dismiss the popup but then you can only admire your new $40 wallpaper.

This is the “gameplay” of said $40 game if you don’t have the possibility of installing updates:

placeholder game

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Well then I guess you probably shouldn't use the flashcart.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

yes exactly, fuck those users who paid $450 for a console and $80 for games, they can learn their lesson and buy a new $450 console

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Are you buying your games or are you using the flashcart? Which is it?

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

it can be both. My hardware, my games and once i pay i should be able to do whatever the fuck i want with them

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

You can do what you want offline. But as I said above, if you take it online, you're an idiot.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

When the machine it’s designed to work exclusively online, tell me how to keep it offline. To enjoy the nice premium wallpapers?

It’s not like the x360 era where online access was completely optional

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you want to do things that require online access, don't use the flashcart.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

i think you are trolling or you have some issue that limits your comprehension. I’m sorry if it’s the second.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I could say the same to you.

The point I'm making is this: if you wanna pirate, you're on your own. If you can't get it working, tough shit. You played stupid games and you won stupid prizes.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

The problem is that the people that got banned did not pirate the shit and paid with real money the games.

If the hardware is mine and i paid a valid license for the game, i am then entitled to play that game whatever i would like to play it. I can’t get a $450 paperweight if one day they decided that those 8-in-1 multiplexers for the dock aren’t supported. Or if one day a production lot of cartridges is glitched and they blacklist people at random

If they blacklisted the console, then it’s ok to block online gaming (and I would 100% agree with that), but playing offline games should still be allowed.

I vote with my wallet and i don’t support this shit

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you wanna take the attitude that you can do whatever you want with it including piracy, fine but you're on your own. If you can't get your flashcart working offline, tough shit. Too bad, so sad. It's your fault for using the flashcart.

renegadespork, do gaming w After just 12 days, Nintendo is already nuking Switch 2 console accounts for players caught using Mig Flash

Fuck Nintendo. No other company has as much active distain for their fans. And the damage they’ve done to game preservation is immeasurable.

Empricorn,

Worse than disdain, it’s hostility. Their family-friendly image is at odds with their actual actions. Going after streamers because they dare play (and publicize) your games…? What the fuck!? Their attitude literally makes me reconsider buying their console and/or games…

0xD,
@0xD@infosec.pub avatar

As it should.

blazeknave,

How so? My kids little son we do Nintendo. Don’t know what’s different from the others.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

Did you miss the OP?

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

They asked what's different from the others, because Sony and Microsoft will also ban you if you try to go online with pirated games. This news isn't actually anything new.

blazeknave,

Thank you. I didn’t even know about Sony and Microsoft so sounds like Nintendo actually isn’t even worse anyway?

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

They’re much worse, for a myriad of reasons, but mainly because they are extremely litigous and overprotective of their IP to the extent that they regularly kill open source emulation projects that support games they don’t even sell, and also shut down any kind of fan-made projects or events.

blazeknave,

So I’ve def been seeing that. I thought it only made news bc the Nintendo brand, but assumed it was the status quo with everyone.

blazeknave,

Downvoted for an honest question. This place is feeling less federated daily.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

No other company has as much active distain for their fans

Pretty sure Apple does.

pivot_root,

I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted here.

Apple is the company that brought us:

  • Proprietary charging cables with DRM microchips.
  • The first flagship phones with the headphone jack removed.
  • The normalization of phones without expandable storage.
  • A phone where you buy the charger separately.
  • A walled-garden ecosystem without sideloading.
  • An OS that removed support for kernel extensions.
  • An authorized repair program that replaces instead of repairs.
  • A line of ATX-sized desktop PCs with storage modules that are only accepted if they’re the same capacity as the ones you originally bought the PC with.

Their entire software and hardware is an affront to personal ownership, right to repair, and consumer rights.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Thar list is the lite version that doesnt include all the times theyve blocked open standards so their users can’t interact with non apple things.

ysjet,

Honestly at this point I think someone’s got a bot farm rolling against the switch 2, and Nintendo particularly. It’s really not subtle.

0xD,
@0xD@infosec.pub avatar

Because Nintendo is a piece of shit.

Buddahriffic,

Don’t forget the thousand dollar basic monitor stand. Or the assumption that their users were too stupid to understand multiple mouse buttons until like the mid 00s. Or making a mouse that was completely round (still with one button) so you’d have to look at it to be sure it’s oriented correctly, though I guess that one was more bad design than lack of respect for their users.

pivot_root,

Oh yeah. And the rechargeable mouse that needs to be flipped upside down to charge simply because the designers hated the idea of people leaving it plugged in constantly. Or the Mac Pro wheels that cost almost as much as an entire handheld PC.

hanrahan,
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

Beside perhaps Apple

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