I played it for the first time yesterday with my S/O, and we looked at the clock only to realize we had played for a little over ten hours straight… only stopping for lunch/dinner
I mean, any survival game is like that. Hell, just about any game is like that. Eventually you’ve done about all you want to do, and then it’s time to move on. And that’s fine.
I don’t know, games like Minecraft, Factorio, Satisfactory, Rust, they all have a lot of staying power. There’s always burnout but I don’t think that Palworld is going to survive to the “We should go back to that” stage.
I burnt out on Factorio after I had fifty ion cannons in orbit and a few battalions of remote controlled mammoth tanks. It got boring after I had finished everything. And restarting was too daunting.
I’ll definitely be back for the big update though. The new trains look incredible.
Personally I do think palworld will survive though. The core loop of capturing pals, leveling, and attribute hunting, is very fun.
If you like survival games (Ark, Rust, Valheim…), you’d probably like it. It’s a pretty decent survival game, and getting it’s nice having the Pals grind your resources for you.
I’m pretty sure John Daly sold his soul to the devil. The more I hear about how he treats his body the more amazed I am that he can still play golf. Or live.
The little Breath of the Wild stamina meter and glider kinda drive me up a wall. They’re just adding the same shit they’ve nabbed and put into that game and threw fuckin Pokemon in it.
And that made it fun. I played Ark, didn’t like it. I played Craftopia, wasn’t a fan. But I have way too many hours in Palworld already. They took a bunch of game mechanics and executed them well together.
A comment I saw on another forum basically pointing out that Palworld demonstrates the gigantic demand for a real new Pokemon game that isn’t whatever Scarlet was.
What did they rip off? There are over a thousand pokemon, most of which are very similar to real animals or mythical creatures so you’re inevitably going to have some similarities. If there were actually copyright infringement going on, Nintendo would be all over it. Don’t tell me anubis (the pal) copied lucario when lucario copied anubis (the god)
Breath of the Wild - Stamina meter in the same style, position, and orientation. Glider and air movement, (Haven’t checked if they ripped off the cliffside climbing too but probably.)
Pokemon - At least half their designs are 80% likeness to already existing Pokemon, you use ‘balls’ to capture the creatures when they’re weak enough, you use these captured creatures to fight for you, you’re considered a ‘trainer’.
Like do I really need to spell out every fucking piece of this game that was stolen to you? Taking tons of shit from other games and mashing it into a new game is not creative, shouldn’t be celebrated, and damn sure isn’t legal. Nintendo have already confirmed they’ve only recently been made aware of it and are “investigating” it. The fact it hasn’t been Thanos snapped yet doesn’t mean it won’t be.
There’s no way Nintendo is “only just aware of it” when the trailer was from 1-2y ago. If they had anything obvious to stand on, they’d have blasted it before release.
The stamina meter with gliders. Looks like genshin. But was it really novel in genshin? Should we complain that RD ripped off witcher bc you can ride a horse? Mechanics like this are not legally protected, which is a good thing or someone would patented the minimap and the game industry would suck.
Genshin stole it from BOTW too but the difference is Genshin didn’t also rip off Pokemon or another Nintendo IP so it’s more forgettable. This company has only made games copying Nintendo and has culminated their theft into this ‘magnum opus’. Pretty sure Nintendo was waiting for them to release the game so they have a profit number to directly point to for damages instead of just a ‘cease and desist’.
Stop coping. Almost every part of Palworld can be directly tied with at least 80% accuracy to a Nintendo game of recent memory. I don’t know why you guys need to do such complicated mental gymnastics to not admit this is a borderline asset flip using copyrighted shit.
Other people can make shit that’s like other shit. Nearly all creative media of modern origin is mixtures and rearrangements of at least the ideas behind other works. You’re reading like an old man yelling at a cloud.
Should Sonic The Hedgehog not exist? it’s clearly a platformer trying to rip off Mario. Should the Spyro or Rayman have never been allowed to happen? Clearly they were just trying to rip off SM64.
Your complaint is that someone who isn’t the Pokémon company made a game about capturing animals and making them fight for you. And that someone who isn’t Nintendo made a game where you can climb and glide. And, I assume, someone who isn’t Mojang made a game about survival and crafting mechanics? Did you complain when Fortnite “stole” the entire battle royale formula from PUBG? Or Apex Legends? Did you complain when Overwatch “stole” TF/TF2 from Valve? Or when Quake “stole” DOOM? Do you think none of these should have been made?
You’re misunderstanding people’s lack of caring about the “stealing” (lmao) for a lack of understanding.
If Nintendo and The Pokémon Company don’t want to deal with this kind of direct competition, they should pull their heads out of their asses and start delivering meaningfully good Pokémon games instead of the series of recent corner-cutting yearly trainwrecks. A demand has created a supply. Cope.
EDIT: Wow nevermind lmao. I see the rest of your emotional thrashing in the rest of this thread. You’re just mad something looks like something you like, but is different in ways you don’t like. You think this somehow devalues your choices and preferences and “emotional bonds” with your Pokémon. Not true. You think others enjoying something you don’t like makes you “wrong”. Not true. I think your value system is damaged and you’re defensive as fuck. Try ignoring this game exists, you’ll feel better. And you know, if you’re right, I guess it’ll be gone soon, right?
BOTW - None of the things you mentioned were original for that game either. I remember gliding around as Spyro all the way back in the 90’s. Even the Just Cause series had them before Zelda. Stamina bars have been in so many games I think you’d need an archeologist to work out where they originated from.
The Pals are obvious rip-off Pokémon, but as Nintendo / Gamefreak don’t give a shit about making a half-decent game from their own IP, I think it becomes fair game for other companies to have a crack at it.
Really? So a glider that operates exactly the same as a popular game by Nintendo, Creatures that heavily resemble a popular game by Nintendo, and HUD elements that heavily resemble a popular game by Nintendo, are all just totally coincidentally in the same game, shortly after these games made it popular?
If there was a spiky purple dragon that was running around collecting gems named Singe, yeah, I’d probably call them out for copying Spyro. But Palworld circlejerkers are so delusional to try and defend this game by saying “Well, these other games had something kinda similar”. You know what they’re doing. You’d have to be a toddler or huffing a lethal dose of copium to not.
I get you guys want a protest game and that’s fine but does it really have to be this low effort? They could have went a totally different direction and used more realistic monsters, made it dark and a little gritty to match the themes, actually do some work to make it only a vague thought not use 95% accurate models with a fucking color pallet swap. I have emotional attachments to some Pokemon because I grew up around them, learned their personalities, and now there’s a game where I stick a pump shotgun down their throat to ‘capture’ them. Not exactly chomping at the bit for that.
I wonder if anyone involved in this debate has even played both games… because outside of having a bunch of adorable yet vicious critters with grimdark world implications… they’re nothing alike
Might as well be comparing Resident Evil to House of the Dead, both have zombies, both take place in a house, both have terrible voice acting… but one’s intended to be scary and has very limited resources and depressing music to give that feel, while the other is a goofy action game intended to be B-Grade schlock where you just mindlessly shoot things
Palworld gameplay isn’t even remotely similar to Pokemon. Its basically Ark Survival that just so happens to have plagiarised pokemon designs instead of dinosaurs.
I kinda wish they didn’t go such overt plagiarism in terms of design because then Palworld could be a nice game on its own
that’s my take on it really, they clearly knew their designs were copied bs, and totally did not have to make it that way. For me personally it totally throws off the potential vibe and just feels like poking a bear for absolutely no reason. Plus I also think the game is kind of offensive and in poor taste but that seems to be a minority opinion to say the least.
the only explanation i can come up with is that they wanted the free PR, i mean would the game really have been so popular if it wasn’t teetering on the knife’s edge of plagiarism?
if they made the creature designs comfortably different from pokemon it would kinda just be yet another game
But honestly, what can even be considered “comfortably different” from Pokemon? If you make funny little animals, they’ll probably resemble at least one of the 1025 Pokemon currently in existence.
(FYI, by raw numbers Minecraft is still the #1 popular game. Not relevant to the discussion but a neat statistic. It’s kind of mind boggling how popular that stupid block game is)
Fortnite Battle Royale was an afterthought, a gamejam project at Epic, made with assets from Fortnite: Save the World. They hoped to use the BR hype to get some more players to the main game, but it got so ridiculously popular it quickly overtook StW and became the Fortnite we all know today.
So do I, I’m not knocking it, but you play it for the schlock and awe, not to be legitimately frightened or experienced a tense environment… and in that sense comparing it to Resident Evil because they both have zombies in a mansion made by mad science, is foolish.
I have yet to have a solid informed grasp of whether Palworld manifested their sources of inspiration in good faith, but my tentative opinion at the moment is that hopefully this presses the Pokemon Company to innovate and elevate their overall game. The switch generation to me represented a generation of mismanagement and obvious management generated timelines and barriers, which is super unfortunate for Pokemon’s transition to a console.
The aesthetic is very similar, but the only thing I’ve seen that looked like it was straight up ripped off was a statue of a Lugia, the Lizard Punk dudes look very much like a creature from Final Fantasy, and the fact there is an area of the map that is the Altus Plateau from Elden Ring; like nearly 1:1 except the scale is smaller.
Everything else could just be chalked up to the fact the designs are pretty simplistic representations of real animals, but you can also see clear inspiration taken from a plethora of games even if they aren’t straight up duplicating anything.
Can confirm: It’s fun enough for $26. It’s kinda like if ARK, Pokemon, and BOTW had a baby. It is most similar to ARK though, so if you’re looking for a straight up pokemon game, this might not be what you’re looking for.
They get a cozy bed, a warm fire, and prepared meals to eat in exchange for their servitude. You can also catch them by sneaking or while they are sleeping and not need to hurt them. There are also caged ones in bandit camps you rescue and they join you; presumably willingly.
You could also just catch the bad humans that shoot you on sight and make a prison camp without resorting to enslaving innocent chibi animals. We all know humans suck anyway.
Basic? I built them things a stone castle while I sleep in a wooden shack. I eat nothing but berries and feed them the finest meats and cakes. They have a bath house that I can’t even use! My Kinguins live like kings!
I don’t think I would have purchased it, but it was a blast to play with PC GamePass. Had a solid weekend where I couldn’t put it down, eventually I got into a loop of just going egg hunting and waiting for them to hatch and uninstalled because I was finally burned out.
Considering that Pocketpair can’t even seem to be able to finish their other (highly plagiarised) games “Never Grave” and “Craftopia”, I’m not spending a single cent until they actually finish it.
Why are we holding big corpos accountable for selling unfinished games that later get patched with free DLC, but then allow a faux indie company (The CEO of Pocketpair actually is a businessman who owns a crypto exchange. So not at all an indie company) to do the same for the same price as the whole ark survivor bundle?
Yeah I’m in the same boat where my time is limited and I’d honestly rather be on here arguing about feline genetic differentiation than playing the equivalent to a game made by PETA that caught on with the crowd who responds to every Nintendo Post with just the word “PalWorld”.
Nothing else, no discussion, I think some of them are actually PalWorld fans who don’t realize they’re hurting the case of PalWorld being different enough to avoid legal disputes by associating it with competitor titles.
Actually, you know what, now that I talked through it I know I would love to play this title but I want absolutely nothing to do with the community around it.
It wouldn’t be a good game if it wasn’t so much fucking fun. It has basically no coherent story, the gameplay loop is not that complex, but the many different pals, their abilities, and the exploration are all fun as heck.
If you don’t want to associate with the people, then don’t. Don’t join the discussions.
If you want to be 100% incognito, just set yourself to invisible on Steam.
The funniest thing is how many people are taking the game setting way, way too seriously. “OMG YOU ENSLAVE CUTE CRITTERS AND MAKE THEM WORK!!!111” - Like that hasn’t been a thing in Pokemon since Green/Blue. Remember Lt. Surge, “fighting the war” with pokemon? Or the first episode of the anime, with a bunch of pikachu generating electricity for the pokecenter? Every mainline game has shown pokemon being used as workforce in one way or another, in Vermillion City there’s even a house being built with Machoke doing all the heavy lifting.
Regarding Palworld proper, I’ve been enjoying this game a lot. It scratched some itches I didn’t even know I had. Might last me a number of weeks yet, then I can wait for future updates while feeling duly sated.
He will install twitter and have the person tweet as the first internet integration before any testing of that integration, shortly thereafter the person will die.
It might actually - more cells = more mitochondria = more power! So better do the watermelon first, then miniaturize the whole thing and take on a grape later.:-D
I believe another one of their goals was to grow neurons out of their own human cells and then see who in the lab has the neurons most capable of playing doom. Or maybe verse each other in quake and see whose neurons win.
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