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Hafler, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years

We will get Skyrim re-releases 15 more times before we get an ES6 release.

Maggoty, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years

TESO and Star Field?

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

TES:O is a different team entirely, it’s made by ZeniMax it’s only published by Bethesda.

Maggoty,

I hate it when I forget relevant things like that.

CleoTheWizard, do games w Ryujinx, Popular Switch Emulator Site Now Apparently Owned by Nintendo
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Who wrote this? Like just this paragraph:

This shutdown doesn’t just affect Ryujinx

Nintendo is rumored to be looking at other emulators like Yuzu, eyeing them with the same scrutiny.

How does anyone covering this exact story not know about Yuzu? Did I travel back in time?

jjagaimo,

AI not trained on recent news?

Kecessa,

“who”

No one

lowleveldata,

The article doesn’t say that now… Which means you’re probably a real time traveler. Please tell EA to go with Titanfall 3 instead before you come back.

Venicon, (edited ) do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Skyrim will always hold a special place in my heart, it’s almost like a simpler time.

Starfield damaged Bethesda for me though. To spend 25 years on it in total and for it to be as it released was very disappointing. I mean basics like no city maps or land vehicles? Every base you come across having the same bodies in the same place with the same loot? I want to love it, they can do things I can’t even imagine (I can’t program Jack shit) but for that to be the end point of their decades of labour just doesn’t add up for me.

HowManyNimons,

Yeah, my current plan is to pass on TES6.

PolarisFx,
@PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s the damn engine, TES6 will be in the same engine. The same engine based on the gamebryo engine designed in 1997.

sirico, do games w Ryujinx, Popular Switch Emulator Site Now Apparently Owned by Nintendo
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Open source, fork, obfuscate

BurnSquirrel, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years

They should release it as early access and just fix all the crap people find wrong with it

ddplf,

no.

BurnSquirrel,

Why not? are you expecting a fully game on release? When have they ever put out something that wasn’t fixed by modders?

Better yet, I’d like to see them put out more of a platform than a game with maybe a built in missions they can call “Cannon”, sort of like the ARMA series does. Let the people build it, they have been anyway.

ddplf,

Are you telling me that it is excusable for a company engaging over 400 people over many many years in a production of a videogame to not playtest their game and make players pay for testing it?

Dude, Early Access is okay if you are an indie games company with limited resources, NOT an AAA producer with infinite budget.

devilish666, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years

As long as Todd can milking TES5 there’s no TES6

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

they are literally working on tes6 as we speak 😂

nek0d3r, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years
@nek0d3r@lemmy.world avatar

Join the dark side – stop taking your pills and enjoy Elder Scrolls 6 and Titanfall 3 with the rest of us

dontgooglefinderscult, do gaming w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years

Let’s be honest, after the last several Bethesda releases and the multiple interviews from multiple people on the dev team including The Lord Thy God Todd Howard that show a deep misunderstanding of why people liked their earlier games in the first place… Who is looking forward to TES 6 anymore?

There are released Skyrim mods better than anything Bethesda could come up with at this point.

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Don’t forget, 13 years on and multiple (re-)releases on various platforms, and there’s still bugs that are only fixed by mods.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, even the easiest and most obvious thing, furthermore the one requiring least devwork, mods, were deliberately missed in case of Starfield by not releasing mod tools until much later. At first the hype was real, first two weeks seen something like 2000 mods released on nexus… but nearly all those were just reskins and other simple mods possible without tools. But then you could see the enthusiasm evaporating in real time until not much is left. If the tools were available on release the game would be now in much better state by every metrics.

And they still blew it up, the easiest thing ever.

makingStuffForFun, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

“Only” 12 years. FFS. “Journalism” is a joke.

scrubbles, do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years
!deleted6348 avatar

TES6 isn’t real. It isn’t real. Do you see it? Is it in the room with us here?

acosmichippo, (edited ) do games w Skyrim Is 13 Years Old, But Elder Scrolls 6 Is Nowhere in Sight While Bethesda’s First Four Games Took Only 12 Years
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

wasted too much time on starfield, FO76, and mobile games. that’s all they have released since 2018. and if you don’t count VR editions or special editions then you’re back to 2016 with FO4.

8 years of junk. They could have made TWO elder scrolls in that time.

TGhost, do games w Veilguard Isn’t the First Dragon Age Game to Face ‘Woke’ Criticism

I will play it but piracy version.

I’m annoyed about EA and their LGBT washing to dump sells.

Lgbt member speaking

Blaze,

Interesting feedback, thanks!

hal_5700X, do games w Veilguard Isn’t the First Dragon Age Game to Face ‘Woke’ Criticism

Veilguard is shit and woke. Let gaming journalist love it. Gaming journalism is a fucking joke.

TGhost,

So for you, “woke” and “shit” are the same ? 🤔🙄🙄

hal_5700X,

I had to stop and think of a time. Something was woke but wasn’t shit. I couldn’t think of something, so yes.

MarcomachtKuchen,

Could you share what qualifies as “woke” for you?

hal_5700X,

A piece of media who pushes politics. The politics doesn’t belong in the media’s story and world. Like the creator(s) just added it in to push an message.

Before someone ask. Yes, Right wingers do this. But I mainly see the Left do this.

TGhost,

Lmao, you clearly don’t deserve your avatar.

All the sci fi is majority woke and leftist, before we named things as “woke”. Tell me u don’t understand things without telling me 😂😂

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

He need to watch some star trek to see some “woke” or Dune, one of the most powerful organization in the galaxy is just women, so “woke”, not even gonna say of the plot been about colonization, too much leftist wokerism on this series.

TGhost,

The day they will understand, they will got an hearth attack

hal_5700X,

Do you know the difference between a story who haves politics weaved into it, and a story who they just added to it without a care?

TGhost,

You lost my interest and I will not educate you 😂🙃

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

How that is fault of woke and not bad fucking writing?

If you add a bad character in the story without a care is fucking awful and what I gonna say may surprise you: their genitalia doesn’t fucking matter.

hal_5700X,

How that is fault of woke and not bad fucking writing?

The reason why the writing sucks. The creator(s) don’t about the quality of the writing. Because all they want to do is push an message. All of that type of stories are woke. Like I been saying all this time.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

No dude the writing sucks because the writer is underpaid, is sucks because someone want quick cash, is sucks because who make decisions doesn’t want quality he wants money.

Mad Max Fury Roads is a fucking woke movie but was been made for a long fucking time, the storyboard was made decades ago and when they finally film it they got all the time in the world for editing and even after numerous setbacks during production and the “woke” plot is one of the best action film ever made.

Stop eating right wing propaganda.

DragonTypeWyvern,

You’d think, but there’s actually a pretty big subgenre for fascists in space.

TGhost,

1vs1000, im really shocked.

All the sci fi is majority woke and leftist

MarcomachtKuchen,

Would you consider military operations in a foreign country a political theme?

Also do you think it’s okay for artists include a message in their work, even if it feels “pushed” to you? Maybe it feels essential to the creator, but since you disagree with the message it feels pushed to you.

Rhynoplaz,

Ever stop to wonder who decided that sexuality was “political”?

Sim City is a political game, because you’re the goddamn mayor.

Please explain to me how and why my genitals should have ANYTHING to do with politics.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

The politics doesn’t belong in the media’s story and world. Like the creator(s) just added it in to push a message.

literally all of literature is created to push a message. who are you to say what “belongs” and what doesn’t? it’s their story.

Semjaza,

That’s a potentially interesting definition.

Dream Daddy, the daddy dating sim isn’t a woke game in this context because the conceit of it being an LGBT friendly town with a bunch of single gay dads makes it all make sense.

But a game set in 1300s Japan with a lesbian white protagonist would be woke because that seems incongruous?

Phegan, do games w Veilguard Isn’t the First Dragon Age Game to Face ‘Woke’ Criticism

Anyone who doesn’t play a game because it’s woke, has their head so far up the culture war ass, they have lost all reason.

It’s also the same people where the message behind more subtle media is lost on them. Starship troopers, for example.

bread,
@bread@feddit.nl avatar

There usually aren’t many complaints of something being woke if the product is actually good. I think the main takeaway is that nobody wants to be lectured, and told they are wrong for having a different opinion, and amateurish writing can easily come across as preachy or being a self-insert.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but have you seen the cutscenes of DA:V?

If that childish word salad sounds “preachy” to you, you need to go to a different preacher! Yours can’t even english.

How can this sound preachy to anybody? Has the fascist right lowered their own standard of education enough to where they think Marvel-style dialogue is normal?!

PunchingWood,

Pretty much this.

I will likely get downvoted into oblivion for saying this (as usual), and I will prelude by saying that I generally never care if there are gay, trans or whatever stuff in games. But transgenders and pronouns were never ever a thing in the Dragon Age franchise, and now they suddenly feature these so prominently. They just handled this very badly.

The fact that writing is generally just plain bad for this game, these inclusive options also seems to affect the rest of the game as well. And it indeed makes it look like they focused on the wrong narrative so much. The way Skill Up reviewed the game was perfect, his best summary was “it’s as if HR is standing in every room” or something along those lines. Like nobody is allowed to insult, or be insulted, in this franchise that used to be pretty dark and grim.

Semjaza,

But Dragon Age was never good, either.

The first one was mediocre at best with some good ideas, and it was all downhill from there.

november,

But transgenders and pronouns were never ever a thing in the Dragon Age franchise, and now they suddenly feature these so prominently.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krem_(Dragon_Age)

Every Dragon Age game has had pronouns because that’s how fucking language works. Your brain has just been poisoned by right-wing outrage over “pronouns”.

Also, “transgenders” isn’t a word. “Transgender” is an adjective, not a noun, not that I expect that to mean anything to someone who freaks out about “pronouns”.

Case,

I picked up Veilguard because I enjoyed Origins and Inquisition. The second game… at this point, I don’t think I took it right and its my problem and I need to give it another chance.

I’m still very early into the game, but the only “woke” thing I’ve seen so far is variable gender identity during character creation.

You want to play a “woman” who looks masculine, with atypical male traits, even a penis, and a deep voice? You know what, I’m glad the option is open to people. It doesn’t vibe with me personally, but I’m glad that people I care about can make a character that is “them,” because who hasn’t made themselves in an RPG at some point in their life, best they were able.

Again, I’m early to it, but that is all of the “woke” shit I’ve seen.

For the record, I have friends and family in the LGTBQ+(whatever, doesn’t matter) that I support.

I don’t want hate in my heart, and I’ve worked very hard to overcome some biases that came from my more “southern” upbringing. Hell, one of those biased views from the past is now openly trans, and I was the only family member they talked to because they couldn’t talk to anyone else.

I’m imperfect, as all humans are, but it isn’t hard to fucking TRY, just a little, to realize that someone else’s self image and happiness doesn’t affect mine other than what pronouns I use to refer to them. Fuck, its not hard. Just don’t be a dick.

acosmichippo, (edited )
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

agreed, there is so much lore more to criticize about this game but of course this is what gets headlines and rage clicks.

Vega,
@Vega@feddit.it avatar

Imho it’s marketing. The game is bad, writing is bad, gameplay is boring after a while, it seems (except for technical optimization) the game itself is a big mobile game. The “woke criticism” is exploited by ea to sell more, since it create engagement and hide the real flaws of the game

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

Take my lemmy gold kind stranger

ms_lane,

Remember when EA did a whole gaywashing thing after being voted worst company in America, two times running.

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

overload,

For some reason the second most followed curator on steam is Sweet Baby Inc Detected. Its pretty widespread brain rot.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Sweet Baby Inc Detected

Never heard of this. It took me some time to even figure what their comments meant.

It’s almost comical to see how obsessed people are about this stuff.

Don’t get me wrong, the commercialization of minority themes and the preachy attitude can get annoying, but it’s hardly a dealbreaker if the gameplay and/or story are good.

Games are full of extremely stupid and lazy tropes.

overload,

That’s it. The Alan Wake 2 “race change” actually allows for some interesting links between Quantum Leap and the Alan Wake stories, but it was seen as a DEI situation. If a game is bad, it’s generally bad for reasons beyond DEI or wokeness.

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