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SolidShake, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

See all these free mods!? They’re just for you to use however you want to!! Pretty awesome right. Just enjoy this .5mbs download. Oh you want faster download speeds? Well… Sir. That will be $12 a month. Evil laugh

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Don’t they already do that?

SolidShake,

That’s the joke

mnemonicmonkeys,

Tbh, unless you’re downloading a DLC size mod or a big 4K textures pack the installs are nearly instant at the moment

Pika, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nexus Mods is far too late on the monetization aspect. The restrictions placed on mod downloading sucks, and it hard pushes buying a membership. Not to mention they basically gave up on vortex and its a buggy mess even if you run it native.

GunValkyrie,

They gave up on vortex to make the nexus mods app. Which is pretty impressive so far. I would recommend reading the articles from the makers of it that discuss how they are making it and why. It’s really interesting.

I have been using the nexus mods app for cyberpunk and it’s really slick and easy.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I wasn’t aware there was a replacement that was suitable. I will have to look into that soley on the fact there seems to be a linux native release, thank you.

GunValkyrie,

Yeah I have my worries in the sale of nexusmods.com. But everything i have read about the new app is really promising and the people working on it have worked on other major mod managers in the past as well. So they seem to know what they are doing. It’s still in really early alpha so if you use it, make backups. Sometimes you have to completely uninstall and then reinstall to update which is annoying. But thats the cost of using alpha software.

daniskarma, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Mod hosting seems to be a great usecase for torrent. It only need a suitable frontend and we are golden.

YiddishMcSquidish,

Hit me up with an addy when you’re on it!

WhyIHateTheInternet,

Ooh I’ll take some addy too. Been too long and I need to clean my fuckin house.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Would a federated discovery frontend work? Peertube’s back end of the service would probably work great as a starting point since it uses torrents to ease up on traffic for individual servers

pepper0,
@pepper0@aus.social avatar

@daniskarma
just use magnet:// links, and optionally ZeroNet if you really require html site.

Gnutella2, e2dk:// had network wide plain text search function.

@mnemonicmonkeys
unfortunately WebTorrent is not feasible due inability of web browsers to participate in current DHT network.

Find freedom by abandoning https web. In real p2p there is no distinction between fronend or backend, all peer equal.

@games

d00ery,

Seems like a good idea. I wonder if there’s anything already similar. It’d be a real treat to see a VC company get shafted.

punkibas,

Someone mentioned this in another thread and I found it interesting:

Ckan kerbal space program mods

Apparently its a frontend for mods that’s hosted on github

msage,

Github, that’s limiting API calls, hmm…

iamjackflack, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Hahaha yea right… give it 6-12 months and that will change

narr1, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@narr1@lemmy.ml avatar

sure buddy, unfortunately they done that already. I especially love the 3 mbps cap on downloads with free accounts.

Thassodar, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

When is Nexus Mods 2: Electric Boogaloo?

Lemminary,

You’re in luck, it’s already in the works.

the_riviera_kid, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

I have a bridge to sell anyone who believes that.

LostWanderer, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Ah, so basically Nexus Mods is dead to me now. Whenever venture capital is injected to anything, it’s a bad sign. Ugh, great these particular Capitalists are from the crypto community…

They’ve been souring a lot of potentially cool projects with blockchain/web3 nonsense, like Playtron, for example. Lutris is now dead in the water and hasn’t been updated for months now; the former dev is working on Playtron. There is a huge issue log that doesn’t seem to be addressed at the moment.

catloaf,

Read the article. They are.

LostWanderer,

I did, and my worries were confirmed! I haven’t updated my comment.

caut_R, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

„Trust me, bro, we won‘t enshitify, please don‘t leave and make something new elsewhere that’s out of our control.“

chameleon, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@chameleon@fedia.io avatar

The new owners are so trustworthy that they weren't even transparent about who they are. In the comments of the original announcement they defend that with:

This post wasn’t about Chosen — it was about Robin and the legacy he built over 24 years. We’re the new owners and ultimate decision-makers at Nexus Mods. We’ll share more about ourselves when we’ve earned that right. For now, we’re focused on listening, learning, and making modding even easier, and yes, you’ll see us around in the community being active.

I can't say I find that statement to be particularly trustworthy given it's coming from an NFT bro.

Lemminary,

Yeah, you don’t start out as a folk hero by hiding behind a black screen and waiting for the right moment to pounce. Sorry NFT dude.

Diplomjodler3, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world avatar

Narrator: they monetised the site to death.

Lembot_0003,

… and beyond!

cyberpunk007, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Obviously they will. Years down the road. 🤗

30p87, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

Fuck Nexus Mods. You already need an account to download anything.

Forester,
@Forester@pawb.social avatar

A free account.

cyberpunk007,

It’s still an extra barrier. There’s zero point other than tracking what people do.

Forester,
@Forester@pawb.social avatar

News flash running the servers isn’t free.

Yes they are tracking us. That’s how they pay to keep the servers running.

If your not paying you are the product.

malwieder,
@malwieder@feddit.org avatar

If you’re paying they’re also tracking you.

30p87,
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

But somehow eg. rdr2mods.com is free, and without account. Oh wonder.

Forester,
@Forester@pawb.social avatar

Cool hope they do a decent job moderating the servers they run and limiting malware exposure. I also hope they’ve taken steps to prevent themselves being used as a host for malicious entities to distribute malware to third parties

psychadlligoat,

Mods for one game vs basically every game

I could probably host the entirety of the mods on that site on my homelab, Nexus is exponentially larger and more complex

30p87,
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

Mods for one game vs basically every game

As it should be. Or are we pretending that centralization is suddenly good now?

JigglySackles,

It has always had its perks.

30p87,
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

You mean cash for shareholders/owners? And a hassle to move to the next platform once it destroys itself?

JigglySackles,

Do you consider those perks? I certainly don’t.

cyberpunk007,

Ah, like the sites of the 90s.

cyberpunk007,

Yes I know.

Forester,
@Forester@pawb.social avatar

Since we’re necrosing the thread

The reason that they require an account is because if they did not require user side authentication then it would be trivial to upload obfuscated malware and then use Nexus as a host to distribute it. If someone uploads malware to a random S3 bucket or random VPS or random shared server and tries to use it as a malicious host, the owner and operator will notice a massive bandwidth spike Nexus won’t notice 30,000 downloads.

cyberpunk007,

We’re talking about for downloading not uploading.

wizardbeard,

It also tracks what you’ve downloaded to provide update notifications and encourage you to participate in the mod quality ratings system.

It’s not 100% without reason beyond tracking users.

catloaf,

And to limit scrapers.

tal,

Well, unless someone makes an alternative, people are going to use it.

They do need to provide a lot of bandwidth, which isn’t free, though I wonder how viable it’d be for someone to create a Nexus-like Website using magnet URLs and BitTorrent as a backend.

Maybe too much of a technical bar to attract users.

Dran_Arcana,

There are JS based torrent downloaders. That would work for the normies to get files, but you’d still have to find a way to convince people to host files on the backend. It’d probably take a full-on desktop client wrapper with an embedded torrent client but that’s a pretty hard sell for the average nerd if you’re upfront, and probably a harder sell if you’re dishonest about it.

Sonotsugipaa,

Wouldn’t the average nerd only need a good ol’ regular torrent client?
The slightly-more-than-average nerd could be incentivized through a specialized client that also acts as a mod manager (iirc Nexus Mods does this, minus the torrent protocol), and the bigger nerd would write themselves a Linux client without using glib nor GTK while evading bioluminescent three-letter org agents of specific ethnicity and sexual orientation.

wizardbeard,

The issue with using torrents is longevity. You’d still want/need traditional storage backing it all. Don’t want some mod to become lost media because nobody is actively seeding it.

SattaRIP, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Oh so they’ll do it subtly enough to think people won’t notice.

MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Translation: “Once all the hub-bub dies down we intend to as slowly as you’ll allow, slip in monetization.”

cyberpunk007,

Yup we’ve never seen this happen before, not ever. Not once!

/s

MyDarkestTimeline01,

Exactly! No venture capitalist has ever taken something that could be monetized but wasn’t, bought it out, and then proceeded to monetize it into irrelevancy before…

einlander,

Just the tip, you won’t even feel it.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Shortly after we introduce monetisation so terrible, everyone hates it - just to test your pain threshold

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